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Himiko Kuronaga
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:06:00 -
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It was previously the strongest ranged non-sniper rifle option, and had a very specific weakness in that it was useless up close.
After 1.7 that honor will go to the rail rifle and scrambler rifle, leaving a weapon that will struggle to compete at range and be absolutely worthless up close.
Basically, it is to be the polar opposite of the current HMG. Useless outside of its optimal, and mediocre inside of it. It's a growing trend for "niche" weaponry in this game to lose its niche and just become bad in general.
Hath a brave Wolfman any desire to address these issues in public, perchance? |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
2147
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:13:00 -
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Purpose of LR is to remind players how much "Choices matter" and why they should have done a better job of predicting the future
htfu ccp is the best AR, core nades, dmg mods, forge guns or gtfo Maybe 1.7 will ruin vehicle fitting choices as well as it looks |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
417
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:21:00 -
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To allow for slammin' laser shows.
Can your rail rifle and scrambler rifle do that?
Seriously, can they? Cuz if they can then the laser rifle can take it's walk of shame. |
Himiko Kuronaga
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:23:00 -
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I'm actually perfectly set for the future. Scrambler rifle is looking good. Great even. But that doesn't mean I should ignore the plight of poorly designed weapons.
If they made variations using different crystals it might make it worth using.
Some crystals can hit ridiculously far in Eve, but do craptastic damage. Would be less for stopping power, and more for harassment. |
Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles
916
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:34:00 -
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I heard its pretty good at heating up Hot Pockets.
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DildoMcnutz
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
310
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:44:00 -
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The purpose of the laser rifle is to easily give away your position to get murdered by scramblers and rail rifles, atleast im pretty sure i mean what else could it be for!? |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
869
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:31:00 -
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We've still yet to see the new weapons in action, maybe we should just wait until we do to ask questions.
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Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
316
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:We've still yet to see the new weapons in action, maybe we should just wait until we do to ask questions.
No man, aint nobody got the time for that. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2208
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:02:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:It was previously the strongest ranged non-sniper rifle option, and had a very specific weakness in that it was useless up close.
After 1.7 that honor will go to the rail rifle and scrambler rifle, leaving a weapon that will struggle to compete at range and be absolutely worthless up close.
Basically, it is to be the polar opposite of the current HMG, but both useless outside of their optimal and mediocre inside of it. It's a growing trend for "niche" weaponry in this game to lose its niche and just become bad in general.
Hath a brave Wolfman any desire to address these issues in public, perchance?
Laser rifle lacks kick, making it easier to stay on target as it moves.
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AK Cyberdemon
Red Star. EoN.
1
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:03:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:I heard its pretty good at heating up Hot Pockets. You heard wrong, the laser rifle overheats before the hot pocket gets warm. |
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1688
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:25:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I'm actually perfectly set for the future. Scrambler rifle is looking good. Great even. But that doesn't mean I should ignore the plight of poorly designed weapons.
If they made variations using different crystals it might make it worth using.
Some crystals can hit ridiculously far in Eve, but do craptastic damage. Would be less for stopping power, and more for harassment. What if it has high DPS over a short time? let the switch the MD and PLC so that the PLC has good DPS and the MD has good alpha...
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Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
310
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:31:00 -
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AK Cyberdemon wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I heard its pretty good at heating up Hot Pockets. You heard wrong, the laser rifle overheats before the hot pocket gets warm.
Not if you are wearing the 'Hot Pocket' Assault ak.0
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2344
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:36:00 -
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Purpose? Why those excellent MCC rave nights of course
Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
702
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:53:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:It was previously the strongest ranged non-sniper rifle option, and had a very specific weakness in that it was useless up close.
After 1.7 that honor will go to the rail rifle and scrambler rifle, leaving a weapon that will struggle to compete at range and be absolutely worthless up close.
Basically, it is to be the polar opposite of the current HMG, but both useless outside of their optimal and mediocre inside of it. It's a growing trend for "niche" weaponry in this game to lose its niche and just become bad in general.
Hath a brave Wolfman any desire to address these issues in public, perchance? it will be useless if ccp does not buff the adv and proto tiers the rail rifle will make it 100% useless |
Humble Seeker
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
57
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:02:00 -
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Alas, it may very well be useless, or at least inferior. I like the idea of giving it some different variations, though. Or at least a range buff.
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee's Wafflehouse
455
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:09:00 -
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Shiny pretty light beam that goes pewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I eat blue waffles when i proto stomp.
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LittleCuteBunny
Ancient Exiles
101
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:15:00 -
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Lasers remind me of party @Ibiza :3 |
Himiko Kuronaga
The Generals EoN.
2266
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:We've still yet to see the new weapons in action, maybe we should just wait until we do to ask questions.
You don't see the big picture at all yet.
The rail rifle is created for long range superiority. If it can be beaten by the laser rifle, it has no purpose.
The laser rifle can ONLY exist in long range conflicts. If it gets out-ranged by the rail rifle and becomes contested in DPS, it has no purpose.
This is not something I have to wait to see. It is a fact and an inevitability with no other possible outcome. One of these weapons requires a role change, or there will be a redundancy with one clearly inferior weapon. Fact. |
AK Cyberdemon
Red Star. EoN.
2
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Posted - 2013.11.12 02:06:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:AK Cyberdemon wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I heard its pretty good at heating up Hot Pockets. You heard wrong, the laser rifle overheats before the hot pocket gets warm. Not if you are wearing the 'Hot Pocket' Assault ak.0 True, but who has time for that? |
DeadlyAztec11
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.12 02:16:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:I heard its pretty good at heating up Hot +Ñ+Ñ-ì+¦+ƒ. Fixed it.
Argh!
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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