DUST Search - Just Watched That CCP Event In Vegas...

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Laurent Cazaderon wrote:

Grease Spillett wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

someone asked about CCP's plans for PS4 and the guy mentioned that there are 80M PS3's out there so their "laser focus" is on the ps3. Seriously.....CCP has no plans or intentions on converting to the PS4.

That worries me because it touches on the common sense of the people who are building this game. There are 80M PS3's out there because the PS4 has not yet been released. The PS4 is debuting at only $399...that is less than new model cellphones when they hit the market. Why does CCP think that people won't buy the PS4? How many people still play on their PS2's??

The PS3 is going to be a dead system in a matter of months and CCP has a few years plan on it? That worries me because how do they not see that pushing for the PS3 is a fail idea? As much as I enjoy dust.....no way will I be unhooking my PS4 and then hooking up my PS3 for a pc match or to cap each week. I won't be getting the PS4 at launch but it won't be too long after that. I'm not going to be going through that trouble of switching systems just to log onto dust. I already have too much congestion with my pc, ps3, Hauppauge, cell phone charger, internet router, etc. I have to use two extension cords......something will give.

Snaps fingers> YOU GO GURL!

LOL ! just got up, thanks for that

Now on the matter of PS4. ( Btw, anything i say here is pure speculation and personal opinion. We never had any info about that as CPM even though i asked a few times )

I wont ever get out of my head the fact that developing dust on PS3 was a major mistake at first. Considering how bitchy it is to develop on it, and ESPECIALLY when it is your first console game as a dev studio. Also, end of life etc...

Now, i dont think it's even a possibility to start porting the game to PS4 now for the sole reason that it would cost a lost and probably kill the game in the mean time considering the fixes the game needs vs coding time needed to port the game vs total manpower.

Problem is, if you need money to make the game better, and go PS4. Well, you'll need to have people playing. And over the coming years, less and less players will stick with PS3. Especially FPS players ! So less and less potential customers. So less and less money to invest in upgrading the game.

What i'd love to though for near future is for CCP to at least work with Gaikai to make the current game available to be played on PS4. Would be a way to benefit from the tiny line up for PS4 and allow people to carry on playing while changing their system. Though i have no idea how time consuming it would be to do so.

Lol no. If there is one thing this game does not need its the additional input delay that Gaikai comes with.


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Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1201	Posted - 2013.11.11 13:52:00 - [1] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: This proposed great migration doesn't happen when a new console releases. It's first gen anyway. That's a gamble purchase in itself. they have no intention on going to the PS4..at least not for a very long time. Prolly a year. Maybe less. Definitely not before the game is tight and feature complete.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1201	Posted - 2013.11.11 15:20:00 - [2] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Sony does not want Dust 514 on PS4 Sony is trying to develop a successful platform, and as of right now, Dust by no means successful This is actually a valid point. Who knows what goes on in SONY's back room, but a decision to keep DUST off the PS4, for now, would be a good one. But in all likelihood it's not an issue for CCP regardless. Logic and necessity dictate focusing on the core of the game and all concerned parties know that. The current platform is the best possible place to refine the core, imo. It will force CCP to develop properly in a resource-constrained environment. On the PS4 code would definitely not be receiving the same level of scrutiny. This is a crucial training exercise for CCP if they're going to grow as a development house. The sole downside to this is time lost to the idiosyncratic nature of the cell processor architecture. But far better all of this now than later. Staying on PS3 until they have their kittenpoop together is a good call, any other decision, given our current circumstances, with very probaly lead to total failure.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1212	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:27:00 - [3] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: someone asked about CCP's plans for PS4 and the guy mentioned that there are 80M PS3's out there so their "laser focus" is on the ps3. Seriously.....CCP has no plans or intentions on converting to the PS4. That worries me because it touches on the common sense of the people who are building this game. There are 80M PS3's out there because the PS4 has not yet been released. The PS4 is debuting at only $399...that is less than new model cellphones when they hit the market. Why does CCP think that people won't buy the PS4? How many people still play on their PS2's?? The PS3 is going to be a dead system in a matter of months and CCP has a few years plan on it? That worries me because how do they not see that pushing for the PS3 is a fail idea? As much as I enjoy dust.....no way will I be unhooking my PS4 and then hooking up my PS3 for a pc match or to cap each week. I won't be getting the PS4 at launch but it won't be too long after that. I'm not going to be going through that trouble of switching systems just to log onto dust. I already have too much congestion with my pc, ps3, Hauppauge, cell phone charger, internet router, etc. I have to use two extension cords......something will give. Snaps fingers> YOU GO GURL! LOL ! just got up, thanks for that Now on the matter of PS4. ( Btw, anything i say here is pure speculation and personal opinion. We never had any info about that as CPM even though i asked a few times ) I wont ever get out of my head the fact that developing dust on PS3 was a major mistake at first. Considering how bitchy it is to develop on it, and ESPECIALLY when it is your first console game as a dev studio. Also, end of life etc... Now, i dont think it's even a possibility to start porting the game to PS4 now for the sole reason that it would cost a lost and probably kill the game in the mean time considering the fixes the game needs vs coding time needed to port the game vs total manpower. Problem is, if you need money to make the game better, and go PS4. Well, you'll need to have people playing. And over the coming years, less and less players will stick with PS3. Especially FPS players ! So less and less potential customers. So less and less money to invest in upgrading the game. What i'd love to though for near future is for CCP to at least work with Gaikai to make the current game available to be played on PS4. Would be a way to benefit from the tiny line up for PS4 and allow people to carry on playing while changing their system. Though i have no idea how time consuming it would be to do so. Lol no. If there is one thing this game does not need its the additional input delay that Gaikai comes with. I've been poking around on google trying to find out if there is anything in DUST that would prevent Gaikai serving DUST. Things like connections to the battleservers, Tranquility and the Vivox voiceservers. Or CREST, or other things. Input lag and image quality was one of the things i worried about, but here's an example of a multiplayer FPS looking pretty good on Gaikai: Hawken on Gaikai I'm gonna stop trying to figure this out and just ask over in CCP Blowout's thread of questions for CCP Flying Scotsman, the Game Design Director.