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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:16:00 -
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Change assault bonus to -5% pg/cpu usage/lvl
Change logistics bonus to -5% pg/cpu cost/lvl
This means we'll need to change the gallente bonuses to something else:
Perhaps a 1% reduction to those same skills/lvl
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:18:00 -
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or don't give logi more high and low slots there is no reason logi should have more high and low slots |
CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:19:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:or don't give logi more high and low slots there is no reason logi should have more high and low slots
Actually, there is: they need more tank as they are less mobile and have no sidearm.
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RKKR
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
436
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:19:00 -
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We could start by demanding an in-depth future-plan of DUST from CCP before starting the n-th thread about this. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:23:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:or don't give logi more high and low slots there is no reason logi should have more high and low slots Actually, there is: they need more tank as they are less mobile and have no sidearm.
just an idea something else you can do is since they aren't really supposed to be doing the killing make so a logi suit have a 5 to 10 percent damage reduction with all weapons makes them less effective and the game should get rid of damage mods too i think you don't need them when you have proficiency skills for all weapons |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2067
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:31:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Change assault bonus to -5% pg/cpu usage for dmg mods and weapons
Change logistics bonus to -5% pg/cpu cost/lvl for tank mods and equipment
Change heavy bonus to -5% pg/cpu for tank mods and damage mods
Change scout bonus to -5% pg/cpu usage for mobility mods and all electronic mods (scan mods, dampeners, etc)
This means we'll need to change the gallente bonuses to something else:
Perhaps a 1% reduction to those same skills/lvl
I'd rather just see better bonuses, than ones that encourage people to play a certain way. The real problem with the logi, is that their assault counterparts are inferior in so many ways.
I commend anyone who runs Gallente Assault. Either they accepted that the bonuses will be changed at some point, and have the patience to wait for it, or they're idiots.
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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:35:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Change assault bonus to -5% pg/cpu usage for dmg mods and weapons
Change logistics bonus to -5% pg/cpu cost/lvl for tank mods and equipment
Change heavy bonus to -5% pg/cpu for tank mods and damage mods
Change scout bonus to -5% pg/cpu usage for mobility mods and all electronic mods (scan mods, dampeners, etc)
This means we'll need to change the gallente bonuses to something else:
Perhaps a 1% reduction to those same skills/lvl I'd rather just see better bonuses, than ones that encourage people to play a certain way. The real problem with the logi, is that their assault counterparts are inferior in so many ways. I commend anyone who runs Gallente Assault. Either they accepted that the bonuses will be changed at some point, and have the patience to wait for it, or they're idiots.
One of the big reasons the logi is a better assault isnt that it has more pg/cpu; it's the passive armor rep. The callogi, for example, would be garbage without it, and the gallogi would have to give up an armor plate to use it (that's like .2 seconds extra survivabiity vs a duvolle! :D lolz)
Change that and you'll see a lot less combat logis on the front lines.
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CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:36:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:or don't give logi more high and low slots there is no reason logi should have more high and low slots Actually, there is: they need more tank as they are less mobile and have no sidearm. just an idea something else you can do is since they aren't really supposed to be doing the killing make so a logi suit have a 5 to 10 percent damage reduction with all weapons makes them less effective and the game should get rid of damage mods too i think you don't need them when you have proficiency skills for all weapons
That is a terrible idea. We cannot be forcing logis to be pacifists; we already basically force everyone to use duvolle, core nades, and gallente mediums, so forcing people into more boxes just makes the problem bigger
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
260
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:41:00 -
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Yes to the premise. No to those bonuses. Id do this:
Assault: 5% reduction to reload speed per level. Also make racial assault bonuses compliment that races chosen weapon type.
Logi: 5% reduction to equipment CPU/PG usage.
Sentinel: 5% increase to amrour/shield module efficacy per level (including the utility modules).
Also, please don't touch the scout bonus. It's the best bonus for a scout to have.
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Meeko Fent
Xer Cloud Consortium
1486
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:09:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:or don't give logi more high and low slots there is no reason logi should have more high and low slots Actually, there is: they need more tank as they are less mobile and have no sidearm.
Marginally slower then assaults.
Traded the sidearm for equipment.
They didn't really derserve 300 more HP for moving a quarter a meter per second slower.
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Meeko Fent
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.10 19:03:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Yes to the premise. No to those bonuses. Id do this:
Assault: 5% reduction to reload speed per level. Also make racial assault bonuses compliment that races chosen weapon type.
Logi: 5% reduction to equipment CPU/PG usage.
Sentinel: 5% increase to amrour/shield module efficacy per level (including the utility modules).
Also, please don't touch the scout bonus. It's the best bonus for a scout to have.
This makes perfect sense.
Sorry Char, but yours seem a bit wacked
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