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Levi McDaniel
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Posted - 2013.11.09 11:15:00 -
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Dear CPM, with planetary conquest 2.0 in the works, I was wondering if we could get some feedback, as to what skills an EVE player would need to train for the warbarge. |
Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
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Posted - 2013.11.09 11:32:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote:Dear CPM, with planetary conquest 2.0 in the works, I was wondering if we could get some feedback, as to what skills an EVE player would need to train for the warbarge.
The war barge is at a very, very early stage of development and will be built by an EVE Online team regardless. Ultimately this will be a question for the CSM, not the CPM. They will be in a better place to know the status of any new EVE ships. Sorry we can't be of much help at this time... |
Levi McDaniel
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:11:00 -
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No problem, for the most part you're the only CPM person who really seems to care, thanks for the reply, I genuinely appreciate it, here's to your re-election |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:31:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Levi McDaniel wrote:Dear CPM, with planetary conquest 2.0 in the works, I was wondering if we could get some feedback, as to what skills an EVE player would need to train for the warbarge. The war barge is at a very, very early stage of development and will be built by an EVE Online team regardless. Ultimately this will be a question for the CSM, not the CPM. They will be in a better place to know the status of any new EVE ships. Sorry we can't be of much help at this time... In CCP LeKjart's EVE Vegas presentation we could see a Warbarge. It's an Orca class ship: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Orca
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:09:00 -
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pc 2.0 is a lot longer off as they need to greatly expand mechanics in dust and eve and basically kill off the crap pc 1.0 we have no which is just isk farmers
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SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:32:00 -
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You will want the skill that reduces jump fuel cost at least, these will be capital ships and have jump drives. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:37:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Levi McDaniel wrote:Dear CPM, with planetary conquest 2.0 in the works, I was wondering if we could get some feedback, as to what skills an EVE player would need to train for the warbarge. The war barge is at a very, very early stage of development and will be built by an EVE Online team regardless. Ultimately this will be a question for the CSM, not the CPM. They will be in a better place to know the status of any new EVE ships. Sorry we can't be of much help at this time... In CCP LeKjart's EVE Vegas presentation we could see a Warbarge. It's an Orca class ship: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Orca
II doubt it will be an orca, thats an industrial ship made by the ORE corporation. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:46:00 -
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http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/06/dust514-eve-4.jpg
It was shown during closed beta but since images from closed beta are under NDA still I don't think we can find a good picture of it anywhere.
There is however a really good chance the ship is going to get overhauled completely because well... the last thing we had for a barge was not that very good interaction of an eve online ship.
As far as PC 2.0 goes, its far to early to tell, far as I know its on the white board still all viable to rapid changes and tweaks, What is probably going in right now is foundation work, what to build on that foundation or what color the final building would look like is up in the air so to say.
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Levi McDaniel
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:27:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Levi McDaniel wrote:Dear CPM, with planetary conquest 2.0 in the works, I was wondering if we could get some feedback, as to what skills an EVE player would need to train for the warbarge. The war barge is at a very, very early stage of development and will be built by an EVE Online team regardless. Ultimately this will be a question for the CSM, not the CPM. They will be in a better place to know the status of any new EVE ships. Sorry we can't be of much help at this time... In CCP LeKjart's EVE Vegas presentation we could see a Warbarge. It's an Orca class ship: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Orca II doubt it will be an orca, thats an industrial ship made by the ORE corporation.
It could very well be something similar however, considering it would be caring clones, and battlefield logistics :/ sounds to me more like a carrier though |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.11.11 12:50:00 -
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~@26:44 into EVE Vegas DUST514 presentation starts Warbarge segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE On the slide is Orca. Small ships can dock Orca and be refitted in space. And could be used for OB strikes. There is nothing preventing an Orca to be retrofitted for military purposes. Say, by Caldari Constructions corporation.
I wonder if we'll see RDV drones in EVE market too.
F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:44:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:~@26:44 into EVE Vegas DUST514 presentation starts Warbarge segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEEOn the slide is Orca. Small ships can dock Orca and be refitted in space. And could be used for OB strikes. There is nothing preventing an Orca to be retrofitted for military purposes. Say, by Caldari Constructions corporation. I wonder if we'll see RDV drones in EVE market too.
I'd say O.R.E. would have something against retrofitting their ships by the Caldari ;) |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:09:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:~@26:44 into EVE Vegas DUST514 presentation starts Warbarge segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEEOn the slide is Orca. Small ships can dock Orca and be refitted in space. And could be used for OB strikes. There is nothing preventing an Orca to be retrofitted for military purposes. Say, by Caldari Constructions corporation. I wonder if we'll see RDV drones in EVE market too.
You really wouldn't want to retrofit an Orca to be a combat capable ship, there are much better ships that other ships can use to refit such as carriers. Then again the orca is the only ship that is actually capable of hull tanking, which we all know is the most manly method of tanking. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:13:00 -
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I think the orca was just used as an example to what sort of capital ship it might be. Regular caps can't gate travel but the orca can.
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Levi McDaniel
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:41:00 -
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The problem is the people at Dust think they are providing incentives for EVE players, when the risk of doing stuff in lowsec for dust players is a million times greater than the reward. Literally EVE players don't benefit from Dust players, and until they do or can be hurt by Dust players one day, the two games will never merge into one universe//one war |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.12 10:01:00 -
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Levi McDaniel wrote:The problem is the people at Dust think they are providing incentives for EVE players, when the risk of doing stuff in lowsec for dust players is a million times greater than the reward. Literally EVE players don't benefit from Dust players, and until they do or can be hurt by Dust players one day, the two games will never merge into one universe//one war
You do that by creating a need, a need so great and wanted that alliances would start wars over them.
Then... you allow dust players being able to cut that supply off.
Its like waving drug bait over addicted persons just slightly out of their reach.
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Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.11.12 10:52:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:~@26:44 into EVE Vegas DUST514 presentation starts Warbarge segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEEOn the slide is Orca. Small ships can dock Orca and be refitted in space. And could be used for OB strikes. There is nothing preventing an Orca to be retrofitted for military purposes. Say, by Caldari Constructions corporation. I wonder if we'll see RDV drones in EVE market too. I'd say O.R.E. would have something against retrofitting their ships by the Caldari ;) Orca BPO are ready available in market. Any one can do research on it and itroduce some upgrades Caldari or not No need to ask ORE or DCM for the permission...
@IWS, i agree Orca could be just a hint at ship class (skills path to train quickly!) and not the acctual warbarge pick.
At 600mil ISK (aprox. Orca's current price tag) it will be very risky to fly a warbarge. Given it could be destroyed anywhere on it's way to the district picked for the attack. If so Planetary Conquest on interstellar scale will be much harder to do. Corps without friends in EVE will rather limit their operation to one planet or completely stay out of PC. So owning a district will become quite an achievement... Or i am missing something
I don't qq chill out
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Levi McDaniel
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:12:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:DeeJay One wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:~@26:44 into EVE Vegas DUST514 presentation starts Warbarge segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEEOn the slide is Orca. Small ships can dock Orca and be refitted in space. And could be used for OB strikes. There is nothing preventing an Orca to be retrofitted for military purposes. Say, by Caldari Constructions corporation. I wonder if we'll see RDV drones in EVE market too. I'd say O.R.E. would have something against retrofitting their ships by the Caldari ;) Orca BPO are ready available in market. Any one can do research on it and itroduce some upgrades Caldari or not No need to ask ORE or DCM for the permission... @IWS, i agree Orca could be just a hint at ship class (skills path to train quickly!) and not the acctual warbarge pick. At 600mil ISK (aprox. Orca's current price tag) it will be very risky to fly a warbarge. Given it could be destroyed anywhere on it's way to the district picked for the attack. If so Planetary Conquest on interstellar scale will be much harder to do. Corps without friends in EVE will rather limit their operation to one planet or completely stay out of PC. So owning a district will become quite an achievement... Or i am missing something I don't qq chill out
Bouncing around ideas: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1489963#post1489963
I'm ok with the idea of a WARCA, but there needs to be more incentive to use it.
Also there's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIwekfp3p5Q
about a minute 20 seconds into it, There appeared to be an amarr ship that launches a shuttle that launches a few extra dust mercs into an already engaged battle. That would be a big advantage to close games being able to drop extra clones on the planet. |
Soraya Xel
Violent Intervention Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:01:00 -
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This video from 2009 starts with the outside of a War Barge, and then shows the inside. It's clearly marked in the bottom corner as a war barge, and it's definitely not an Orca. Orcas were simply sketched as placeholders. (Also note the map, guns, vehicles, and effects we all don't have, and that was from four years ago.)
EDIT: Attaching the video link might help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRns
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Levi McDaniel
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Posted - 2013.11.16 10:58:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuI 1:39 warbarge hologram, but yeah, Soraya that's what we need, everything that's in the trailers..
I mean I don't know what to be more upset about, the lack of one universe//one war let's focus on stupid parts of the game like new gear we can sell on the psn OR the fact that in the trailer they showed optics on weapons, something reasonable for a futuristic game and when it arrived we got none -_-.
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