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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.06 17:38:00 -
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Hello Team True Grit, I would be highly interested in seeing a metric tied to the corporation wallet window that shows the combined isk value of donations and taxes collected from a player. Filters to organize contributions by player over a span of a week, month, and three months would be very helpful as well.
I am seeking to use this contribution metric to help regulate membership retention in an experimental corp I have designed. The ability to track player activity through this metric value would be invaluable to me and my members.
Thank you.
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
2245
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:11:00 -
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Seconded.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
674
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Posted - 2013.11.06 20:32:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Seconded. Third ex. And SpongeBoB SquarePants will join you shortly with dat BPO
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Spartan MK420
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
5
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Posted - 2013.11.06 20:35:00 -
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I would like to see this implemented. It gives the owners of the corp a rough draft of who is contributing the most, and may deserve recognition or gifts for their loyalty/efforts.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:23:00 -
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I agree that is seems like a very straight forward way for tracking player activity. Still, you're going to run into problems infering how many matches a person plays with the disparity in payouts between Pub and PC matches.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
125
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:25:00 -
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Jadek, it's more about contribution. A consistently efficient PC player is much more valuable to a corp that a consistent Pub player, at least going by tax and resource developement points.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
205
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:04:00 -
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Alright.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
374
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:57:00 -
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Ideally CCP, corps would be able to get a lot of mileage out of two figures:
A Contribution Stat: Taxes and Player Donations
Withdraw Stat: How much as this player taken out of the corp wallet?
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Blackbeard Edward Teach
Xer Deadspace
3
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:33:00 -
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I'm for anything that gives the directors and ceos more tools to make it actually feel like a real corporation from an immersion stand point.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
375
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:54:00 -
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Blackbeard Edward Teach wrote:I'm for anything that gives the directors and ceos more tools to make it actually feel like a real corporation from an immersion stand point. Additionally, all corp accountants or auditors would be able to view this data. They wouldn't necessarily need to be directors.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
379
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Posted - 2013.11.14 19:31:00 -
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We need this in a big way CCP. An acknowledgement of whether or not this kind of systems tracking is possible would be tremendously appreciated.
Thanks CCP for all of your work!
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Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
353
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
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Blackbeard Edward Teach wrote:I'm for anything that gives the directors and ceos more tools to make it actually feel like a real corporation from an immersion stand point.
Agreed.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
383
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:51:00 -
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Is there anything people would like to add upon this idea with? Hoping a Dev or CPM will see this.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
383
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:15:00 -
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Blackbeard Edward Teach wrote:I'm for anything that gives the directors and ceos more tools to make it actually feel like a real corporation from an immersion stand point. Both Xer Cloud Consortium and Xer Deadspace are looking to using the contribution stats as openly view-able leader board for members to compete in their own right to be either the biggest contributor or scumbag thief.
From that standpoint, not all corporations are going to want open wallet access for members to view these statistics. I believe it would be help to tie this attribute to an auditor role.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
52
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:43:00 -
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Yeah, if you could filter it by week that would definitely be nice for determining whether you want to keep a player on board and/or upgrade their roles.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
386
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Posted - 2013.11.17 15:44:00 -
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You could filter based on roles as well.
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dustwaffle
Xer Cloud Consortium
677
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Posted - 2013.11.18 02:39:00 -
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Good idea +1 approve of this |
Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
179
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Posted - 2013.11.18 17:59:00 -
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Bump for feedback.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
185
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:28:00 -
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Bump for feedback
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Mikey Ducati
Xer Cloud Consortium
59
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Posted - 2013.11.25 01:07:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Hello Team True Grit, I would be highly interested in seeing a metric tied to the corporation wallet window that shows the combined isk value of donations and taxes collected from a player. Filters to organize contributions by player over a span of a week, month, and three months would be very helpful as well. I am seeking to use this contribution metric to help regulate membership retention in an experimental corp I have designed. The ability to track player activity through this metric value would be invaluable to me and my members. Thank you. Edit: As Jadek mentioned it would also be very helpful to track how much players have pulled from the corp wallet over similar spans of time.
This is a great idea. Maybe something that a treasurer can do. That role can be expanded more with such detail information given. |
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
445
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:22:00 -
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Yes, it gives a treasurer real power to track who is making their dues.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
185
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Posted - 2013.11.25 21:39:00 -
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Bump for Feedback
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
517
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:57:00 -
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After going nuts on buying 'Vapor' Core Grenades I'll certainly find myself in a position to offer these items at subsidies to corp members. However, I would like to calculate this subsidy in accordance with the player contribution statistic as described in the OP. It would likely help to rank users numerically along this guide.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
666
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Posted - 2013.12.11 07:13:00 -
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Is this something the new DUST Statid Data Export cache can illustrate?
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
398
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:23:00 -
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Best idea from the community I've heard all year.
All (well, most of) my hard work currently goes unnoticed, and this would go a long way to help that.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
668
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:47:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Best idea from the community I've heard all year.
All (well, most of) my hard work currently goes unnoticed, and this would go a long way to help that. Thank you! Yes, it would be a tremendous step forward for helping give due recognition to players by their corporations. It's a straight forward feature that would immediately enhance how players feel about their involvement with a this game, all for the better. I imagine it could also give some players a reason to keep grinding past their cap, or be more savvy in selling items to procure greater donation funds to bolster their position on the corp's MVP 'leader-board,' so to speak.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
670
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:06:00 -
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Re-posting response here
DeeJay One wrote:No, this isn't something the SDE's are done for - this would require support from CREST and authorization to it. I really hope that we will see full CREST for both EVE and DUST soon, it's already a year or two late :(
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Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
202
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Posted - 2013.12.11 18:16:00 -
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I would love to get your input on this CCP FoxFour!
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
788
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Posted - 2013.12.11 20:38:00 -
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This would be pretty neat for EVE Online as well. It would be a way of tracking how invested someone was into your corporation. This should really be cross-posted to the EVE forums too.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
204
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Posted - 2013.12.11 22:32:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Hello Team True Grit, I would be highly interested in seeing a metric tied to the corporation wallet window that shows the combined isk value of donations and taxes collected from a player. Filters to organize contributions by player over a span of a week, month, and three months would be very helpful as well. I am seeking to use this contribution metric to help regulate membership retention in an experimental corp I have designed. The ability to track player activity through this metric value would be invaluable to me and my members. Thank you. Edit: As Jadek mentioned it would also be very helpful to track how much players have pulled from the corp wallet over similar spans of time.
A careful eye will be needed if donations are counted toward a contribution stat. If a player has access to the wallet they may try to game the system by withdrawing and redepositing funds in order to boost their contribution standing. For this reason, it may be helpful to separate donations from battle taxes in order for treasurers, directors and CEOs to more finely track player contribution. This still leaves donation metric validity on uncertain ground if a player has access to the corp wallet. Possibly, the best way to tabulate donations is by displaying 'donations' as a net sum of funds deposited and withdrawn. In addition, a figure only showing withdraws would be provided to help upper management keep track of cash flow and compare figures.
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NDA Approved
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.12.11 23:23:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:Best idea from the community I've heard all year.
All (well, most of) my hard work currently goes unnoticed, and this would go a long way to help that. Thank you! Yes, it would be a tremendous step forward for helping give due recognition to players by their corporations. It's a straight forward feature that would immediately enhance how players feel about their involvement with a this game, all for the better. I imagine it could also give some players a reason to keep grinding past their cap, or be more savvy in selling items to procure greater donation funds to bolster their position on the corp's MVP 'leader-board,' so to speak. Especially for a free to play game, this leader board aspect you're pushing could add a lot of value to the game. If you can visibly see that your actions matter and affect someone, or something, your going to develop a much longer term bond with a product and the community surrounding it.
A stats tracking system could also make corporate takeovers and thefts that much more painful to bear because a player has a greater sense of exactly how much of their time and energy they poured into a organization.
Oh my, the tears and QQ would be that much sweeter
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Seems Good
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 23:23:00 -
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NDA Approved wrote:A stats tracking system could also make corporate takeovers and thefts that much more painful to bear because a player has a greater sense of exactly how much of their time and energy they poured into a organization. Oh my, the tears and QQ would be that much sweeter I approve of this service! That does not seem good.... |
Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
211
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Posted - 2013.12.11 23:26:00 -
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NDA Approved wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:Best idea from the community I've heard all year.
All (well, most of) my hard work currently goes unnoticed, and this would go a long way to help that. Thank you! Yes, it would be a tremendous step forward for helping give due recognition to players by their corporations. It's a straight forward feature that would immediately enhance how players feel about their involvement with a this game, all for the better. I imagine it could also give some players a reason to keep grinding past their cap, or be more savvy in selling items to procure greater donation funds to bolster their position on the corp's MVP 'leader-board,' so to speak. Especially for a free to play game, this leader board aspect you're pushing could add a lot of value to the game. If you can visibly see that your actions matter and affect someone, or something, your going to develop a much longer term bond with a product and the community surrounding it. A stats tracking system could also make corporate takeovers and thefts that much more painful to bear because a player has a greater sense of exactly how much of their time and energy they poured into a organization. Oh my, the tears and QQ would be that much sweeter I approve of this service! Are you suggestion these personal contribution stats would visible on the player's own character sheet?
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NDA Approved
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.12.11 23:27:00 -
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That particular thought didn't cross my mind; however, I do like it.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
671
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Posted - 2013.12.11 23:29:00 -
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+1. Including your own contribution stats for your corp on the character sheet works for me.
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Merlox Lancaster
SCIENCE FOR LIFE
4
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:51:00 -
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Awesome Idea! =D |
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Lazy Bunglers
23
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Posted - 2013.12.14 15:39:00 -
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CCP, do it asap |
Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
218
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Posted - 2013.12.15 21:18:00 -
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Obligatory bump for feedback.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
708
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:10:00 -
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Interested in feedback on this topic CCP.
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Crosseyed Fox
Pradox One Proficiency V.
18
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:38:00 -
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Like a report of total taxes received per player per day? Possibly after downtime? CEO/Directors can check activity when they log on.
Also, on your corp tab, CEO/Directors can highlight a corp member to bring up his info. The player can also see this info on his character sheet.
Crosseyed Fox Player Taxes 12/16/13 $314,575.60 Crosseyed Fox Player Withdrawal 12/16/13 $2,000,000.00 Crosseyed Fox Player Taxes 12/17/13 $269,274.50 Crosseyed Fox Player Donation 12/17/13 $5,000,000.00
Something like this?
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
711
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:58:00 -
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Crosseyed Fox wrote: Like a report of total taxes received per player per day? Possibly after downtime? CEO/Directors can check activity when they log on.
Also, on your corp tab, CEO/Directors can highlight a corp member to bring up his info. The player can also see this info on his character sheet.
Crosseyed Fox Player Taxes 12/16/13 $314,575.60 Crosseyed Fox Player Withdrawal 12/16/13 $2,000,000.00 Crosseyed Fox Player Taxes 12/17/13 $269,274.50 Crosseyed Fox Player Donation 12/17/13 $5,000,000.00
Something like this? Yes, I like this, but it might be more logical to display the data on an interactive bar chart (which appears more closer to a histogram) that can be set to display data from several days, weeks, months, etc from an individual category. The thumb stick would enable fast horizontal scroll of data while the d-pad would offer granular movement to each individual from the corporation on the chart.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
610
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:34:00 -
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Why stop at 3 months, why not go back to the date they joined the corp? Surely the records exist.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
711
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:37:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Why stop at 3 months, why not go back to the date they joined the corp? Surely the records exist. Yes. Good point. If the data exists it should be included. It's just about keeping the data easy to manage in a console ecosystem.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
221
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:30:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Crosseyed Fox wrote: Like a report of total taxes received per player per day? Possibly after downtime? CEO/Directors can check activity when they log on.
Also, on your corp tab, CEO/Directors can highlight a corp member to bring up his info. The player can also see this info on his character sheet.
Crosseyed Fox Player Taxes 12/16/13 $314,575.60 Crosseyed Fox Player Withdrawal 12/16/13 $2,000,000.00 Crosseyed Fox Player Taxes 12/17/13 $269,274.50 Crosseyed Fox Player Donation 12/17/13 $5,000,000.00
Something like this? Yes, I like this, but it might be more logical to display the data on an interactive bar chart (which appears more closer to a histogram) that can be set to display data from several days, weeks, months, etc from an individual category. The thumb stick would enable fast horizontal scroll of data while the d-pad would offer granular movement to each individual from the corporation on the chart. That's nice! Jadek, I know you have some art skills. Would you mind illustrating something to show with this forum? It would certainly help the cause of pushing this idea forward.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:50:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:That's nice! Jadek, I know you have some art skills. Would you mind illustrating something to show with this forum? It would certainly help the cause of pushing this idea forward. Challenge Accepted
Yes, I am a time traveler.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:52:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Jadu Wen wrote:That's nice! Jadek, I know you have some art skills. Would you mind illustrating something to show with this forum? It would certainly help the cause of pushing this idea forward. Challenge AcceptedYes, I am a time traveler. What....how.....nice!!!! Damn, Jadek! I didn't think you'd take me up on that.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Deadspace
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:58:00 -
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REVO-7 is that EVOLUTION-7's alt?
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.12.19 09:14:00 -
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NEW Player Contribution Tab Concept
Okay, just updated the graphic to reflect member counts. Each bar on the chart represents a member. As you scroll or toggle between bars, the player info-graphic on the left side will change to another member.
As a corporation grows the line will become increasing smaller, warranting a zoom icon (triangle button) to appear.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:19:00 -
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+1
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Valmar Shadereaver
The Exemplars Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:55:00 -
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+1 this wuild realy help corp's note who's activly playing aswel making it more eazy to know whos plating and who is just loitering outside :) |
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.12.19 19:08:00 -
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Valmar Shadereaver wrote:+1 this wuild realy help corp's note who's activly playing aswel making it more eazy to know whos plating and who is just loitering outside :) Exactly. There's a tremendous amount of functionality with this tool.
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IR Scifi
Knights of Eternal Darkness
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:12:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Jadu Wen wrote:That's nice! Jadek, I know you have some art skills. Would you mind illustrating something to show with this forum? It would certainly help the cause of pushing this idea forward. Challenge AcceptedYes, I am a time traveler.
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:04:00 -
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I would really love this just to run competitions like:
- Whoever brings the most corp taxes in x amount of time gets it back
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:13:00 -
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+1 This is the way its handled in Eve, and there are loads of other Corp functions that are sorely lacking Dust side atm. A ledger would be a good first step.
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:20:00 -
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+1 |
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