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MCEINSTEIN08
ADAMANTIUM CORE
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Posted - 2013.11.06 01:33:00 -
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I have an Heavy Dropsuit 650 Armor / 620 Shield, I realize not the best but better then most.
I also run a MH-82 HMG with 5% damage increase.
Toe to toe with a Assault Dropsuit Third Tier with a GEK-38 AR, I do not stand a chance. 0-7 Vs Assault.
How is that possible and fair.
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castba
Penguin's March
176
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Posted - 2013.11.06 01:42:00 -
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So many variables it isn't even funny.
Proficiency 1 and no complex damage mod? ...
Try the adv basic heavy suit with 2x complex damage mods and get your proficiency up to 4.
Also, L1, moving and cover are your friends.
He may have had lvl 5 proficiency and 3x complex damage mods, which would be high 40's per shot. You are putting out 19.8 per shot with terrible dispersion. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.11.06 01:43:00 -
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The suit was never the problem. You can have the EHP of a HAV, but it won't matter because your effective range is the radius of a nanohive and it can't hit the broad side of a barn.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1213
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Posted - 2013.11.06 02:52:00 -
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Popping in and out of crouching when putting the melt on somebody's face greatly increases DPS.
castba put up a good fit.
I usually run a ADV Basic Heavy with 2 Complex Damage Mods and 2 Enhanced plates (w/ Logi in squad) or 1 Enhanced Cardiac Regulator and 1 Enhanced Kinetic Catalyzer (solo).
HMG Proficiency 5, Reload 5
In my "squaded" fitting I'll use a Basic HMG. Saves a ton of ISK.
On my "solo" build I use the Boundless to use the DPS and speed to compensate for the lower HP. It's expensive, but that minimal Damage gain is enough to save my *** 2-4 times per match.
I have versions of both suits with Assault HMGs (equipped with AV grenades) for situations where I may have to traverse some open space to get from spawn to my objective.
The key is to find a niche in maps that allows you to spray people as they come around a commonly used tight corner.
Squad with a capable Logi and somebody that is OCD with an Active Scanner.
Cheeseburgers.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
191
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Posted - 2013.11.06 03:46:00 -
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I killed a proto heavy today several times. At one point we met, both of us without a scratch on us, he must've had over 1500 health total, I had ~250 shields and 700 armor on a gallente logi, think he was carrying the same gun as you, I had the ishukone assault smg with a complex damage mod and level 3 proficiency, we both turned and started shooting at the same time, stood still because there was no point in moving, made it out of that fight with 250 armor. If that isn't enough I kill heavies on a regular basis with a toxin smg and a suit with about 450 total hp and no damage mods.
All I have to say is at that range, how in the world does a minigun not beat a peashooter? Yes I understand that I had a heavily modified suit meant to take an deal more damage than normal but the fact still remains that I'm using a side arm and he is running a heavy suit specifically to use a weapon that I'm not even capable of equipping, a heavy suit with more defense. Right now the HMG is pointless, I have the image of the heavy being able to empty a hallway or become a wall to tank damage from 2 or 3 people while dealing suppressive fire, it's a good thing the heavy got a moderate boost in health but they're still flimsy, you know there's a problem when an assault rifle is better for a heavy to equip than a minigun. |
Grimmiers
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
309
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:02:00 -
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I use an adv suit and gek most of the time and usually can't take down a good heavy without a grenade to weaken him. When I use my heavy alt I like to crouch and ads if the enemy is around 30m away. If he's closer try strafing like crazy. Heavies can still throw off aim even though they're slower and good cover can make you invincible since you have so much hp. Also there are some crazy good players out there that know how to win a lot of seemingly impossible situations.
Do you know who the player was?
Grimm Grimm! \
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Kharga Lum
Xeno Labs Security
97
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Posted - 2013.11.06 04:14:00 -
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It's tied to the hit detection fix. The heavy is a huge slow target and now that the Light Weapons are super accurate every bullet hits. There's no "dancing" if you're in a heavy so you just have to take it. The HMG is not anything close to accurate.
You're shooting at a quick moving smaller target with a weapon that's hard to aim and not accurate.
They're shooting at a slow moving huge target with a super accurate weapon.
My heavy has approx 1400hp and will die in a single clip from an AR.
The HMG is worse then the shotgun. At 30m an AR will ruin a heavy and the bullets from the HMG will be flying around your target.
It's not you that's having trouble. I've given mine a laser riffle and SMG...more effective then the weapons it's designed to use.
It'll get patched in a year. |
Text Grant
Death Firm.
196
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Posted - 2013.11.06 06:26:00 -
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Just remove the 10% damage buff from all weapons. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.11.06 08:06:00 -
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My heavy has 1414 hp, and I overheated my HMG against a STD Assault today at about 40 meters. He turns and kills me with a single effing burst from a Duvolle. Fair? Not even close.
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
199
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Posted - 2013.11.06 08:29:00 -
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I've skilled into every weapon to at least level 3, except of course for the hmg snd nova knives. Yes i grabbed a plasma cannon.
CCP wants me to specialize? But there's so many weapons!
'Unwise SP spending mode activated'
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Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
364
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Posted - 2013.11.06 09:57:00 -
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My most effective heavy fittings involve scrambler rifles and duvol AR's. |
f fs
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.06 10:00:00 -
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im sorry... its something called Headshot.. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1830
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Posted - 2013.11.06 10:02:00 -
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This is the key. Literally. Press it and accuracy increases drastically.
"..things that some people frankly don't even get the chance to do in real life, because it's poorly designed."
-Veigar
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1245
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:29:00 -
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sigh another sad heavy story....... I miss being able to melt entire squads in my adv b-series heavy suit and hold down entire objectives in my vk0 or vk1 heavy suits with nothing but my hmg and trusty logibro at my back but sadly those days are over. and until the hmg is fixed heavies will be easy pickings to the other team.
Its gone from suck .....to blow
level 1 forum warrior
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Lightning Bolt2
From The Mist
308
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:53:00 -
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Kharga Lum wrote:I
The HMG is worse then the shotgun. At 30m an AR will ruin a heavy and the bullets from the HMG will be flying around your target.
there's something wrong when my scout with 241EHP can tackle a HMG heavy head-on at 30M! yet to beat an assault I have to get to 50M (I don't use aim assist) and out-strafe him.
I miss the days where if you saw a heavy, you needed teamwork to take em out! (or do what I did, and tackle em solo
for bragging rights  )
remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field!
from the non-existent mist!
forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
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mordiby
G.R.A.V.E
36
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Posted - 2013.11.06 16:57:00 -
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You got to dance man, like you never have...
Director of G.R.A.V.E
NBK The Leppy
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