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Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1978	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:16:00 - [1] - Quote collective gasp Nerf its direct damage and it's splash damage! people faint And then make it a pistol sidearm . . . Think about it for a second; sure there are those who can get kills, or even do well with the PlaC, but the same can be said of SMGs and Scrambler Pistols. IMO that's not good enough to say the PlaC is a valid light weapon. On the other hand, if it were a single-shot massive damage pistol with minor AV capabilities and zero PG requirements, I think it would make an excellent sidearm. And imagine not having to fit AV nades on every suit you plan on taking out into open ground, wouldn't that be liberating? Perhaps I'm really just suggesting a new sidearm here, but it occurs to me that the gulf of difference between the PlaC and a desirable sidearm, is far less than that between the PlaC and a viable light weapon.
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 442	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:21:00 - [2] - Quote No way man keep it the way it is, it's a beast in the right hands! "i weel shuut u een duh faise" - some Minnie scout
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1179	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:21:00 - [3] - Quote So make it like pre nerf core flaylocks? TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1978	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:22:00 - [4] - Quote hackerzilla wrote: No way man keep it the way it is, it's a beast in the right hands! So is a Scrambler Pistol.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1978	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:24:00 - [5] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: So make it like pre nerf core flaylocks? Nah, pre-nerf flaylocks had stupid range, accuracy & splash, & worst of all ROF. PlaC has none of these, just an awesome alpha potential.
Julius Vindice A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 305	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:35:00 - [6] - Quote I never thought I'd see a nerf thread targeting the plasma cannon. *Julius Vindice... "Chase knowledge, not passion".* I may suck at things but at least I can make people mad.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 901	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:49:00 - [7] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: hackerzilla wrote: No way man keep it the way it is, it's a beast in the right hands! So is a Scrambler Pistol. So is everything, by that we should make the shotgun a sidearm! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1979	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:56:00 - [8] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: hackerzilla wrote: No way man keep it the way it is, it's a beast in the right hands! So is a Scrambler Pistol. So is everything, by that we should make the shotgun a sidearm! That's a little fecetious. Clearly there is a difference between what makes a viable light weapon, and what makes a viable sidearm. The shotgun has it's own issues, but is perfectly viable as a light weapon, you cannot say the same for the PlaC. The novelty of its high alpha power is comparable to the Scrambler's headshot bonus.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 322	Posted - 2013.11.03 01:58:00 - [9] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: collective gasp Nerf its direct damage and it's splash damage! people faint And then make it a pistol sidearm . . . Think about it for a second; sure there are those who can get kills, or even do well with the PlaC, but the same can be said of SMGs and Scrambler Pistols. IMO that's not good enough to say the PlaC is a valid light weapon. On the other hand, if it were a single-shot massive damage pistol with minor AV capabilities and zero PG requirements, I think it would make an excellent sidearm. And imagine not having to fit AV nades on every suit you plan on taking out into open ground, wouldn't that be liberating? Perhaps I'm really just suggesting a new sidearm here, but it occurs to me that the gulf of difference between the PlaC and a desirable sidearm, is far less than that between the PlaC and a viable light weapon. Nerf the plama cannon? That thing doesnt even belong in dust. It belongs in dodgeball for the gameboy advance. You are welcome for my leadership
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 546	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:02:00 - [10] - Quote 9/10 Troll @ least I hope it's one I may seem biased to some... But in the end all I want is perfect balance between everything.

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1979	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:03:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: 9/10 Troll @ least I hope it's one Is anyone actually reading the post?
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 703	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:05:00 - [12] - Quote I think the plasma cannon will finally be a good AV weapon with 1.7 "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Sleepy Zan 2692	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:08:00 - [13] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: collective gasp Nerf its direct damage and it's splash damage! people faint And then make it a pistol sidearm . . . Think about it for a second; sure there are those who can get kills, or even do well with the PlaC, but the same can be said of SMGs and Scrambler Pistols. IMO that's not good enough to say the PlaC is a valid light weapon. On the other hand, if it were a single-shot massive damage pistol with minor AV capabilities and zero PG requirements, I think it would make an excellent sidearm. And imagine not having to fit AV nades on every suit you plan on taking out into open ground, wouldn't that be liberating? Perhaps I'm really just suggesting a new sidearm here, but it occurs to me that the gulf of difference between the PlaC and a desirable sidearm, is far less than that between the PlaC and a viable light weapon. Chunky Munkey wrote: Think about it for a second; sure there are those who can get kills, or even do well with the PlaC, but the same can be said of SMGs and Scrambler Pistols. IMO that's not good enough to say the PlaC is a valid light weapon. On the other hand, if it were a single-shot massive damage pistol with minor AV capabilities and zero PG requirements, I think it would make an excellent sidearm. And imagine not having to fit AV nades on every suit you plan on taking out into open ground, wouldn't that be liberating? Chunky Munkey wrote: And imagine not having to fit AV nades on every suit you plan on taking out into open ground Chunky Munkey wrote: imagine not having to fit AV nades Chunky Munkey wrote: not having to fit AV nades I'm in... A good sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a good sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield
Chit Hoppened Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors 123	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:13:00 - [14] - Quote So, make it do like 180 direct 45 splash and keep all the other aspects of the Cannon (sight; clip size; bullet drop) then completely remake a NEW! Gallente AV weapon? Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden. Cannon Fever Representative
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1979	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:19:00 - [15] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: So, make it do like 180 direct 45 splash and keep all the other aspects of the Cannon (sight; clip size; bullet drop) then completely remake a NEW! Gallente AV weapon? 180 direct for a 1 round/clip pistol!?!?
Chit Hoppened Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors 123	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:25:00 - [16] - Quote Totally random numbers. I ain't so good at maths. Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden. Cannon Fever Representative
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 547	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:27:00 - [17] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Atiim wrote: 9/10 Troll @ least I hope it's one Is anyone actually reading the post? No I read the OP, it's just that I don't agree. I believe that the PLC is fine where it is. I may seem biased to some... But in the end all I want is perfect balance between everything.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1980	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:31:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Atiim wrote: 9/10 Troll @ least I hope it's one Is anyone actually reading the post? No I read the OP, it's just that I don't agree. I believe that the PLC is fine where it is. Well now I give you an 8/10 for trolling. "fine where it is"
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 728	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:53:00 - [19] - Quote OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Grand Master Kubo PIanet Express 13	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:58:00 - [20] - Quote Considering the size of it, it should be a heavy weapon. Add one or two to the clip size, make sure there is a slower rate of fire and voila. Maybe. Just a thought. - Kubo

HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 323	Posted - 2013.11.03 02:58:00 - [21] - Quote Facepalm You are welcome for my leadership
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1981	Posted - 2013.11.03 03:26:00 - [22] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU By "easymode" I can only assume you mean "useful".
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 554	Posted - 2013.11.03 03:30:00 - [23] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU But you can just run a commando suit. And those are the best suits in the game. Heck I even think they're OP with those 2 light weapon slots I may seem biased to some... But in the end all I want is perfect balance between everything.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 728	Posted - 2013.11.03 03:36:00 - [24] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU By "easymode" I can only assume you mean "useful". The Plasma Cannon is the second most useful weapon in the game. It can destroy both people and vehicles. The most useful is the Forge Gun. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1981	Posted - 2013.11.03 03:37:00 - [25] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU By "easymode" I can only assume you mean "useful". The Plasma Cannon is the second most useful weapon in the game. It can destroy both people and vehicles. The most useful is the Forge Gun. Lol, you nearly had me there for a moment.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 728	Posted - 2013.11.03 03:37:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU But you can just run a commando suit. And those are the best suits in the game. Heck I even think they're OP with those 2 light weapon slots IKR they should be nerfed to two sidearm slots. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 631	Posted - 2013.11.03 03:38:00 - [27] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: collective gasp Nerf its direct damage and it's splash damage! people faint And then make it a pistol sidearm . . . Think about it for a second; sure there are those who can get kills, or even do well with the PlaC, but the same can be said of SMGs and Scrambler Pistols. IMO that's not good enough to say the PlaC is a valid light weapon. On the other hand, if it were a single-shot massive damage pistol with minor AV capabilities and zero PG requirements, I think it would make an excellent sidearm. And imagine not having to fit AV nades on every suit you plan on taking out into open ground, wouldn't that be liberating? Perhaps I'm really just suggesting a new sidearm here, but it occurs to me that the gulf of difference between the PlaC and a desirable sidearm, is far less than that between the PlaC and a viable light weapon. 75 CPU side arm... Good God! PLC is not a viable primary weap - that much is true. A lot of ppl including myself enjoy it, though so I would leave it where it is or keep constructive talks on how to tweak it to bring it in line with other primary weapons.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 729	Posted - 2013.11.03 03:43:00 - [28] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU By "easymode" I can only assume you mean "useful". The Plasma Cannon is the second most useful weapon in the game. It can destroy both people and vehicles. The most useful is the Forge Gun. Lol, you nearly had me there for a moment. You obviously consider "useful" to be "good at killing people". The thing is, the Plasma Cannon's high skill requirement is the reason you can't get kills with it. It takes the users skill and transforms it directly into results, no training wheels or crutches attached. If the Plasma Cannon is not getting you the results you expected, it is your fault, not the Plasma Cannon's. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 210	Posted - 2013.11.03 04:01:00 - [29] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: OP: "I cant use the Placon and I don't want to put down my easymode weapons to try the Placon, so make it a sidearm so I don't have to compromise my easymode gameplay. Pwetty Pwease CCP!" CCP: HTFU By "easymode" I can only assume you mean "useful". The Plasma Cannon is the second most useful weapon in the game. It can destroy both people and vehicles. The most useful is the Forge Gun. Lol, you nearly had me there for a moment. You obviously consider "useful" to be "good at killing people". The thing is, the Plasma Cannon's high skill requirement is the reason you can't get kills with it. It takes the users skill and transforms it directly into results, no training wheels or crutches attached. If the Plasma Cannon is not getting you the results you expected, it is your fault, not the Plasma Cannon's. That would almost be true, if there were any examples whatsoever of people doing genuinely well with a plasma cannon, against serious fits and not random pubs. Unless I'm wrong and someone really is wrecking face with it somewhere.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 729	Posted - 2013.11.03 04:08:00 - [30] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: That would almost be true, if there were any examples whatsoever of people doing genuinely well with a plasma cannon, against serious fits and not random pubs. Unless I'm wrong and someone really is wrecking face with it somewhere. Its not a competitive weapon, this we can agree on. But you must understand most competitive teams are made up of specialized units, while the Plasma Cannon is not specialized in any way at all. It simply does not belong in a competitive game. The Plasma can can do effectively anything, but it can do nothing effectively. That is one of its tradeoffs. Effectiveness for usefulness. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.

Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 210	Posted - 2013.11.03 04:15:00 - [31] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Awry Barux wrote: That would almost be true, if there were any examples whatsoever of people doing genuinely well with a plasma cannon, against serious fits and not random pubs. Unless I'm wrong and someone really is wrecking face with it somewhere. Its not a competitive weapon, this we can agree on. But you must understand most competitive teams are made up of specialized units, while the Plasma Cannon is not specialized in any way at all. It simply does not belong in a competitive game. The Plasma can can do effectively anything, but it can do nothing effectively. That is one of its tradeoffs. Effectiveness for usefulness. Right. Precisely. It needs a niche, and currently it has none. Ideally all weapons should be competitively viable in the right hands. That may be an impossible task, but it's the ultimate goal of balancing. The PLC deserves a change, though this one may not be the right one.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 564	Posted - 2013.11.03 04:37:00 - [32] - Quote I think I have been killed with it three times since it was introduced in-game.


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