DUST Search - Call Outs

John Genericname wrote:

In DUST, it's clear that most blueberries don't use mics, creating a lack of both teamwork and communication. This system I'm proposing however, will fix that. How it would work is you would select from a wheel, similar to the squad command wheel, what you want to say. For instance: "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" then your Icon would appear on the screens of other players showing where you are.

These call out could be broadcast to the entire team, or it could be in just the general vicinity. An example would be to ask the guy next to you if you want to push the objective together.

One last call out could be an automatic call out to a logibro. If you are near a logi and are half-way out of armor hp, te logi would hear "I need an armor rep!" Then an armor repper symbol would appear on the guy that needs it. The same would happen with ammo as well. This would only happen, however if the logi had what was needed.

Now, what do you guys think? Would this help with blueberry to blueberry communication or not?

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John Genericname Murder 4 Hire 35	Posted - 2013.11.02 20:32:00 - [1] - Quote In DUST, it's clear that most blueberries don't use mics, creating a lack of both teamwork and communication. This system I'm proposing however, will fix that. How it would work is you would select from a wheel, similar to the squad command wheel, what you want to say. For instance: "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" then your Icon would appear on the screens of other players showing where you are. These call out could be broadcast to the entire team, or it could be in just the general vicinity. An example would be to ask the guy next to you if you want to push the objective together. One last call out could be an automatic call out to a logibro. If you are near a logi and are half-way out of armor hp, te logi would hear "I need an armor rep!" Then an armor repper symbol would appear on the guy that needs it. The same would happen with ammo as well. This would only happen, however if the logi had what was needed. Now, what do you guys think? Would this help with blueberry to blueberry communication or not?
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 562	Posted - 2013.11.02 21:41:00 - [2] - Quote Oh, the spamming. "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" ...ad nauseum. Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.11.02 21:58:00 - [3] - Quote They're called "blue-dots" damnit! Or take something directly from MAG where there is actual leadership, chat channels, proxy chat, and a somewhat similar call out system (which was rarely used because everything else worked so well). The comms system we have right now resembles what DICE has been doing in recent years, which is terrible. Now I know not everyone here has ever played MAG but the comms system was nearly flawless. There were *proxy chat. This was where both blue-dots and* red-dots could hear what you are saying given that you are within a certain distance (roughly 15-20 ft). This was loads of fun because you can talk to the enemy, but I digress. While we don't necessarily need to talk to red-dots, this is a necessity in order to effectively talk to blue-dots since the "Team" channel is just a cluster-f* and that's only if the blue-dots are in there in the first place. What we have now is just simply bad. There was a call out system which had the phrases: "I need a pick up" (if you need a vehicle) "I need a medic" (rarely used because most people had at least a first-aid kit downed players couldn't make call outs [oops]) "I need repairs" (for vehicles and you don't have a repair tool) "Requesting reinforcements" (duh) Leadership and chat channels** There were four ranks as far MAG goes. Each rank has special abilities and can call certain airstrikes, but I will not talk about this because this is not what this thread is about. I will explain each rank as each rank can become relevant in Dust: The Regular This rank is limited to talking only to his other squad mates (squad chat) and the squad leader (SL). He/she cannot switch channels. Squad Leader or SL Only the SL can set fragos. The SL has squad chat and could then go to the platoon chat (by holding up on the d-pad and pressing L2 or R2 to desired channel) and talk to the platoon leader (PL) and the other SLs. While the SL is in this channel, the regualrs cannot hear what the SL says, but the SL can. Also while on this channel the other SLs and the PL can anything he/she says. This allows the PL and other SL to form plans and contemplate without the regulars getting in the way of the conversation. We have SLs in Dust now, but it is the highest official battlefield rank, there is no supreme leader which is a problem. In pub matches, we have a bunch of squads not working together. There are no coordinated attack or defense plans. It is just random. In PC matches, we have a bunch of SL trying to talk over 15 other people (who are also trying to do their job of calling out enemey elements) to tell everyone what to do. It's a mess and inefficient. Platoon Leader or PL The PL has squad chat, can switch to platoon chat, company chat (which I will talk about later), and platoon broadcast. Platoon broadcast allowed the PL to talk to everyone in his/her platoon at once. The regulars in the other squads cannot talk to him. It was a one way channel. We seriously need platoon broadcast. It allows coordinated efforts and the PLs voice while in platoons broadcast is questioned only by the SL and the regulars in his squad. not the regulars not in his squad. Officer in Charge or OIC The OIC has squad chat, platoon chat, company chat, and team broadcast. Team broadcast was the same as platoon broadcast, but it applies to the entire team instead of just the platoon. I see a future where Dust will have much more players, but as of now, the OIC position would not be useful. Company chat was the same as platoon chat, but it was a channel reserved for the OIC and PLs instead of the PL and the SLs. Note the team structure in the largest gamemode in MAG was: Team: 128 players Platoon: 32 playes Squad: 8 players 4 platoons in a team 16 squads in a team 4 squads in a platoon As far as Dust in concerned, I think it should go like this: 2 squads of eight 1 PL in one of these squads This^ to be expanded once there are more players in one battlefield. Any questions? The not logic bomb!
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.11.02 22:03:00 - [4] - Quote Dominus Fatali wrote: Oh, the spamming. "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" ...ad nauseum. There was a cap in MAG. Once you made a call out, a symbol go above your head. If you decide to make another call out within (what I'm guessing) is 30 seconds or change it, the symbol will remain the same or change, but the audio will not repeat. Because of this, there were never call out spammers. Of course, there will be that jackass who says they need repairs even though there are no vehicles, but I digress. The not logic bomb!
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 442	Posted - 2013.11.02 22:55:00 - [5] - Quote i know they're useless. that why i use them as a "distraction"... its pretty effective too..
m twiggz Eternal Beings 133	Posted - 2013.11.03 00:08:00 - [6] - Quote John Genericname wrote: In DUST, it's clear that most blueberries don't use mics, creating a lack of both teamwork and communication. This system I'm proposing however, will fix that. How it would work is you would select from a wheel, similar to the squad command wheel, what you want to say. For instance: "I'm pinned! Give me some covering fire!" then your Icon would appear on the screens of other players showing where you are. These call out could be broadcast to the entire team, or it could be in just the general vicinity. An example would be to ask the guy next to you if you want to push the objective together. One last call out could be an automatic call out to a logibro. If you are near a logi and are half-way out of armor hp, te logi would hear "I need an armor rep!" Then an armor repper symbol would appear on the guy that needs it. The same would happen with ammo as well. This would only happen, however if the logi had what was needed. Now, what do you guys think? Would this help with blueberry to blueberry communication or not? Theres a system just like this is Battlefield 3. You can call out to support guys for ammo or medics for health packs. "Blueberries" still don't work together in that game, unless they're experienced players. What it comes down to is whether the person knows what they're doing or not, I don't believe simple commands like that would help. Not to mention the "call for pickup" option when you're dead in this game very rarely results in that guy with an injector thats 6m away from you to come pick you up.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 852	Posted - 2013.11.03 00:36:00 - [7] - Quote Considering how effective the DUST UI wheel is at module activation or equipment selection I think this is a terrible idea.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 90	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:42:00 - [8] - Quote Bump for the post I made and I don't feel like editing my post to where it fits an OP format and not simply a reply to an OP. In other words, Dust needs MAG-like chat channels. The not logic bomb!


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