DUST Search - Survey about SP level and service star for FW

True Adamance wrote:

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

I would insist that people call me commander

HOLY SH*T you're up to 30.000.000 SP ?
Well....GG dude.

But if there's too much people with "Honorific title" be sure i'll make them harder to get Twisted

To be more viable in the time Twisted

Why would SP dictate who gets a title, they could be the epitome of a traitor with 40 Million SP why should they have a title over say Aero with his measly 12m who has only ever fought for the Amarr?

Because title is based on your Sp.
It's not because your faith is into something that you're experimented.
Title is about Experience and Experience about SP.

Your faith into you faction (Amarr defender too.) and your determination will allow you to get Stars for the Amarr faster than anybody.
So you will be REWARDED for what you're doing.
With Stars and FW badges from EVE.
And most important Reductions for the Amarr store that will allows you to buy Amarr stuff less LP/ISK.
So what's the problem ? My idea actually reward people like you.

SP should never translate to anything in FW, which is not about you personally but the efforts in for your faction. I have about 10m SP now, I go toe to toe with vastly more SP invested tankers than myself and win those battles. I do not believe they should rank higher than me because of a default that I cannot change.

However if ranks were accrued by number of battles and LP accrued in FW, then those who spend more time fighting within the command structure of say.... the State Peace Keepers would be rewarded for it, rather than some guy who just popped in for a match and was named king champion of everything because he had 30m sp.

As for badges I like the medals Idea but I have always wanted ribbons in this game to represent your basic stats and actions in Dust.

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Mordecai Sanguine What The French 91	Posted - 2013.11.01 00:44:00 - [1] - Quote Hi guys i just post a thread about my new ideas : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118623&find=unread Just a little question (if you want to talk of the ideas then go on the link) : With this system which title you will have ? (Just to know and/or adjust the values) For Lazy people here's the part of the thread about the level title: Quote: And we could add some... "title" of progression. (Don't forget we are mercenary so..no military grade and they must be hard to get and it must take a looooooot of time to get them and when we got a "title" we have it for a looong time it's our "title".). And when we are killed by an ennemy it will show his "level" so we could approximately know his SP level. And when "contracts" system will be on we could "hire" mercenary on the (open) market to help and the price will be depending on their Level. Regular Title : "Unexperimented Mercenary" : From 500.000 SP to 2.000.000 SP. "Young Mercenary" From : 2.000.000 SP to 5.000.000 SP. "Low tier Mercenary" : From 5.000.000 SP to 8.000.000 SP. "Second-Hand Mercenary" : From 8.000.000 SP to 10.000.000 SP "Mercenary" : From 10.000.000 SP to 14.000.000 SP. (You stay Normal mercenary a little longer.) "Specialized Mercenary" : From 14.000.000 SP to 17.000.000 SP. "High Tier Mercenary" : From 17.000.000SP to 20.000.000 SP. "Weapon Master Mercenary" From: From 20.000.000SP to 23.000.000 SP. "Elite Mercenary" : From 23.000.000 SP to 26.000.000 SP. "Veteran Mercenary" : From 26.000.000 SP to 30.000.000 SP. (You stay Veteran a little more.) Honorific Title : (Really Rare less than 50/100 players can hold them i think if you're killed by one of them take a picture, say GG or if he's not alone in his team to have them just cry because you've already loss. ) Commander : From 30.000.000 SP to 35.000.000 SP. War Chief : From 35.000.000 SP to 40.000.000 SP. War Legend : 40.000.000 SP and more. Pretty cool huh ? And more original than "crappy level" in all the others Generic games Ps: Service Stars and Title appears in Forum. Say it here and discuss here if you think some adjustments should be made about SP level required for all titles.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3859	Posted - 2013.11.01 00:49:00 - [2] - Quote Ugh I would never want to be called a mercenary by the Imperial Guard.... don't even try to associate loyalists with unreliable and crass mercenaries. But yeah I guess ranks would be cool based on standings. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 00:53:00 - [3] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Ugh I would never want to be called a mercenary by the Imperial Guard.... don't even try to associate loyalists with unreliable and crass mercenaries. But yeah I guess ranks would be cool based on standings. You know... We're all mercenary. It's like that it's the game. We are some "meat" that battles for NPC. Don't think because in a game you play for Imperial Guard that YOU ARE an Imperial Guard. For them you're a slave that battle for money. We call that a Mercenary. So you're a Mercenary ? 10.000.000 to 14.000.000 SP ?
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 159	Posted - 2013.11.01 00:57:00 - [4] - Quote if this wasnt a WTF idea I would support it :) Joking! Gives players that they are feeling like they are accomplishing something with DUST. Try to get a blue tag!
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:00:00 - [5] - Quote Sorry for my bad english ^^' So... you're supporting me ? Well from you guys it's a big "UP" ! I'll try to make the ideas going up to a Blue tag i promess ! (Unless i become one of them ) Ps: "Like" this thread (or the one in the link) it will help me and gives the idea a bigger "impact". If we reach 50/100 likes i'm sure a DEV or a CPM will see the idea !!!!
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1779	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:09:00 - [6] - Quote I would insist that people call me commander
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:11:00 - [7] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I would insist that people call me commander HOLY SH*T you're up to 30.000.000 SP ? Well....GG dude. But if there's too much people with "Honorific title" be sure i'll make them harder to get To be more viable in the time
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 945	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:14:00 - [8] - Quote EVE Online actually already has ranks to reward service in FW, based on your standing with the given race's FW corp. The Tribal Liberation Force's badges looked pretty badass, from what I remember. Here's a link for all the info, if you're interested. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûôGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 0 (900/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3859	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:16:00 - [9] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: True Adamance wrote: Ugh I would never want to be called a mercenary by the Imperial Guard.... don't even try to associate loyalists with unreliable and crass mercenaries. But yeah I guess ranks would be cool based on standings. You know... We're all mercenary. It's like that it's the game. We are some "meat" that battles for NPC. Don't think because in a game you play for Imperial Guard that YOU ARE an Imperial Guard. For them you're a slave that battle for money. We call that a Mercenary. So you're a Mercenary ? 10.000.000 to 14.000.000 SP ? No I am a member of PIE Inc a paramilitary organisation designed with the defence of the Amarr Empire and the expansion of Imperial assets throughout the Amarrian warzones in Devoid and the Bleak Lands. I do not sell my services to the highest bidder, I always fight Amarr Faction warfare, and vet public contracts, I do not fight for myself in PC, nor do I fly my ships for in my own interests. No matter how you look at it I do not fit in with the concept of mercenary, nor do I choose to be one in New Eden. I am a soldier for the Amarr Empire, I only use Amarr gear except for my HAV, and am constantly a proponent of the expansion of Amarr interests. I also was ex Sarum Imperial Guardsman for the 6th Company..... (( not lying its written into my bio)) "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:17:00 - [10] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: EVE Online actually already has ranks to reward service in FW, based on your standing with the given race's FW corp. The Tribal Liberation Force's badges looked pretty badass, from what I remember. Here's a link for all the info, if you're interested. Thanks dude. So it makes my idea even better because it's like EVE afterall Maybe if you get Gold star you could get the badges of EVE on the forum and/or in DUST with your stars under ?

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3859	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:17:00 - [11] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I would insist that people call me commander HOLY SH*T you're up to 30.000.000 SP ? Well....GG dude. But if there's too much people with "Honorific title" be sure i'll make them harder to get To be more viable in the time Why would SP dictate who gets a title, they could be the epitome of a traitor with 40 Million SP why should they have a title over say Aero with his measly 12m who has only ever fought for the Amarr? I like the EVE based system where service over a long period of time determines rank. That encourages loyalty if you want you ranks, and loss of standings with a faction resets you Rank. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:23:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I would insist that people call me commander HOLY SH*T you're up to 30.000.000 SP ? Well....GG dude. But if there's too much people with "Honorific title" be sure i'll make them harder to get To be more viable in the time Why would SP dictate who gets a title, they could be the epitome of a traitor with 40 Million SP why should they have a title over say Aero with his measly 12m who has only ever fought for the Amarr? Because title is based on your Sp. It's not because your faith is into something that you're experimented. Title is about Experience and Experience about SP. Your faith into you faction (Amarr defender too.) and your determination will allow you to get Stars for the Amarr faster than anybody. So you will be REWARDED for what you're doing. With Stars and FW badges from EVE. And most important Reductions for the Amarr store that will allows you to buy Amarr stuff less LP/ISK. So what's the problem ? My idea actually reward people like you. Ps : Sorry in fact i think you didn't go in the link and read all the thread you should maybe go on it you will be highly surprised i think
Void Echo Blades of Dust 2024	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:27:00 - [13] - Quote hm... interesting, im high tier. Closed Beta Vet Level 2 Forum Warrior "In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3859	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:28:00 - [14] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I would insist that people call me commander HOLY SH*T you're up to 30.000.000 SP ? Well....GG dude. But if there's too much people with "Honorific title" be sure i'll make them harder to get To be more viable in the time Why would SP dictate who gets a title, they could be the epitome of a traitor with 40 Million SP why should they have a title over say Aero with his measly 12m who has only ever fought for the Amarr? Because title is based on your Sp. It's not because your faith is into something that you're experimented. Title is about Experience and Experience about SP. Your faith into you faction (Amarr defender too.) and your determination will allow you to get Stars for the Amarr faster than anybody. So you will be REWARDED for what you're doing. With Stars and FW badges from EVE. And most important Reductions for the Amarr store that will allows you to buy Amarr stuff less LP/ISK. So what's the problem ? My idea actually reward people like you. SP should never translate to anything in FW, which is not about you personally but the efforts in for your faction. I have about 10m SP now, I go toe to toe with vastly more SP invested tankers than myself and win those battles. I do not believe they should rank higher than me because of a default that I cannot change. However if ranks were accrued by number of battles and LP accrued in FW, then those who spend more time fighting within the command structure of say.... the State Peace Keepers would be rewarded for it, rather than some guy who just popped in for a match and was named king champion of everything because he had 30m sp. As for badges I like the medals Idea but I have always wanted ribbons in this game to represent your basic stats and actions in Dust. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:28:00 - [15] - Quote Void Echo wrote: hm... interesting, im high tier. Thanks. You should go on the link there's an other idea about factionnal ;)
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 816	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:30:00 - [16] - Quote I'm at Elite Merc :) For the Empire! Member of ASS: Amarr Secret Service.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3859	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:34:00 - [17] - Quote Void Echo wrote: hm... interesting, im high tier. Yeah but I mean if you and I walked into a 24th Crusade officer, which one of us would they hire and captain or commander? The man who openly condemned their religion and cause Or the man who does the same job, maybe not as well, but avidly follows their creed and is fanatically loyal Consequently if I walked into a Gallentean Office with Arkena would they hire me or him to lead their armies? "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:35:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: True Adamance wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I would insist that people call me commander HOLY SH*T you're up to 30.000.000 SP ? Well....GG dude. But if there's too much people with "Honorific title" be sure i'll make them harder to get To be more viable in the time Why would SP dictate who gets a title, they could be the epitome of a traitor with 40 Million SP why should they have a title over say Aero with his measly 12m who has only ever fought for the Amarr? Because title is based on your Sp. It's not because your faith is into something that you're experimented. Title is about Experience and Experience about SP. Your faith into you faction (Amarr defender too.) and your determination will allow you to get Stars for the Amarr faster than anybody. So you will be REWARDED for what you're doing. With Stars and FW badges from EVE. And most important Reductions for the Amarr store that will allows you to buy Amarr stuff less LP/ISK. So what's the problem ? My idea actually reward people like you. SP should never translate to anything in FW, which is not about you personally but the efforts in for your faction. I have about 10m SP now, I go toe to toe with vastly more SP invested tankers than myself and win those battles. I do not believe they should rank higher than me because of a default that I cannot change. However if ranks were accrued by number of battles and LP accrued in FW, then those who spend more time fighting within the command structure of say.... the State Peace Keepers would be rewarded for it, rather than some guy who just popped in for a match and was named king champion of everything because he had 30m sp. As for badges I like the medals Idea but I have always wanted ribbons in this game to represent your basic stats and actions in Dust. SP is about title and doesn't have anything with the factionnal. It's just a title dude. That doesn't have any effect. Just inform how much SP have the ennemy in front of you. FW rewards (Stars) is an totally other idea and other system. And rewards time you've played for each faction and fidelity. And you're rewarded with stars AND reductions for the Faction Store. SO YES it rewards time passed fighting for your faction. So actually YES someone with 30.000.000 SP will have a great title. BUT YES someone like you have stars and reductions. Why for you we couldn't do the 2 ideas ?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3859	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:36:00 - [19] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: SP is about title and doesn't have anything with the factionnal. It's just a title dude. That doesn't have any effect. Just inform how much SP have the ennemy in front of you. FW rewards (Stars) is an totally other idea and other system. And rewards time you've played for each faction and fidelity. And you're rewarded with stars AND reductions for the Faction Store. SO YES it rewards time passed fighting for your faction. So actually YES someone with 30.000.000 SP will have a great title. BUT YES someone like you have stars and reductions. Why for you we couldn't do the 2 ideas ? OH sorry I don't know why i'm blathering on about FW then. My apologies. I also wonder if corp LP store reductions will translate Dust from EVE..... I hope they do, the corp discount would be very very good. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:39:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: SP is about title and doesn't have anything with the factionnal. It's just a title dude. That doesn't have any effect. Just inform how much SP have the ennemy in front of you. FW rewards (Stars) is an totally other idea and other system. And rewards time you've played for each faction and fidelity. And you're rewarded with stars AND reductions for the Faction Store. SO YES it rewards time passed fighting for your faction. So actually YES someone with 30.000.000 SP will have a great title. BUT YES someone like you have stars and reductions. Why for you we couldn't do the 2 ideas ? OH sorry I don't know why i'm blathering on about FW then. My apologies. No problem i like people playing RP (Role Play). And even more when they defend their ideas and ideology. And for the 24th crusade they will not choose the commander with 30.000.000 SP with no Amarr stars. They will choose the guy who got a Gold star for the Amarr. They ill choose the one who prove it's fidelity to their cause.

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:41:00 - [21] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I'm at Elite Merc :) Continue to have too much Skill point Be sure i'll rank up every title (And maybe make some more)
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:43:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I also wonder if corp LP store reductions will translate Dust from EVE..... I hope they do, the corp discount would be very very good. First i think they'll need to see if the ideas is good in Dust then maybe in EVE. (CCP) BUT FIRST they need to see this thread !!!!!!!!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3859	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:45:00 - [23] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: True Adamance wrote: I also wonder if corp LP store reductions will translate Dust from EVE..... I hope they do, the corp discount would be very very good. First i think they'll need to see if the ideas is good in Dust then maybe in EVE. (CCP) BUT FIRST they need to see this thread !!!!!!!! No I mean some corps to my knowledge already have LP discounts, will those LP discounts be in EVE. I don't see why not. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 92	Posted - 2013.11.01 01:47:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mordecai Sanguine wrote: True Adamance wrote: I also wonder if corp LP store reductions will translate Dust from EVE..... I hope they do, the corp discount would be very very good. First i think they'll need to see if the ideas is good in Dust then maybe in EVE. (CCP) BUT FIRST they need to see this thread !!!!!!!! No I mean some corps to my knowledge already have LP discounts, will those LP discounts be in EVE. I don't see why not. Okay ! I changed the thread to avoid confusion next time look at it it will be maybe better huh ?
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 245	Posted - 2013.11.01 06:27:00 - [25] - Quote a rank system is a good idea .... but your rank system sucks. im the juggernaut *****! the BEST pilot in DUST 514, no.1 ranked pilot on BATTLEFIELD 3, and top 16 on WAR THUNDER.... come at me bro!
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1718	Posted - 2013.11.01 08:16:00 - [26] - Quote I wouldn't like to have a low rank just because I have only 8.000.000 SP, when I'm clearly kicking major butts. But, especially... I wouldn't like to be called "second-hand mercenary" in any case. It is offensive for my integrity. -Caldari Achura - One with the Universe -Tac AR Specialist "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 98	Posted - 2013.11.01 10:14:00 - [27] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: a rank system is a good idea .... but your rank system sucks. im the juggernaut *****! You should go back to COD....I think. I'm sure you're this kind of people who wants to be called "bestz playerz OF THE WOOORLDS XDLOL." Mercenary ranks are not supposed to be cool. They supposed to show you level. And a 8.000.000 SP level is under average.
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 98	Posted - 2013.11.01 10:15:00 - [28] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: I wouldn't like to have a low rank just because I have only 8.000.000 SP, when I'm clearly kicking major butts. But, especially... I wouldn't like to be called "second-hand mercenary" in any case. It is offensive for my integrity. Because matchmaking loves you dude. Face some 14.000.000 SP team (all the team not just 1 or 2.) You'll be the "second hand". Very low rank maybe deserved better "ranks" i'll take a second to see that.
Cpl Foster USMC Molden Heath Mafia 295	Posted - 2013.11.01 10:32:00 - [29] - Quote Good Ideas... good luck with the Trolls...
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 98	Posted - 2013.11.01 10:34:00 - [30] - Quote Cpl Foster USMC wrote: Good Ideas... good luck with the Trolls... Thanks.... Tired of little kids wants to be called "Bestz of da woordl llooool" or "I'm the Juggernaught mouahaha".



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