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SILVERBACK 02
CALDARI SPECIAL FORCES -the specials
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:21:00 -
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just letting everyone know that i am no FOTM player and when this particular DROPSUIT is released i will refuse to use anything apart from this awsome creation!
http://s991.photobucket.com/user/spartan556/media/sUmwLWh_zpsdd0e7ac7.jpg.html?filters[user]=138048125&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0
even if it is terrible... i will still use it because it looks freaking BAD ASS ;)
...also i would like to make a promise that once CCP releases this BEAST! i will invest in an ELITE PACK as a token of loyalty.
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JL3Eleven
1203
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:22:00 -
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Congratz?
I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse?
Forums > Game
Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
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![Viktor Hadah Jr Viktor Hadah Jr](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
791
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:22:00 -
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Looks like food for my scrambler rifle.
For the Empire!
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2462
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:26:00 -
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*Throws flux grenade*
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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![Broonfondle Majikthies Broonfondle Majikthies](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
367
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:26:00 -
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...Flux grenades?
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
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calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
812
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:27:00 -
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Error on your shortcut feed
Do not eat the yellow snow
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![Sgt Kirk Sgt Kirk](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2462
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:29:00 -
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Seriously though, The Caldari Heavy better come with some insane Shield Depletion Recharge to counter flux grenades.
Ooooooooor have a resistance against Fluxes. yah yah yah, that will make it interesting to bring down.
Like a cat, I like to play with my food before I eat it.
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
454
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Posted - 2013.10.31 04:54:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:snip
even if it is terrible... i will still use it because it looks freaking BAD ASS ;) If the current heavy frames are any indication it will come pre-nerfed. It would be nice if the Dev's pulled off a hat-trick and revamped the Heavy class when the others are put out.
SILVERBACK 02 wrote:...also i would like to make a promise that once CCP releases this BEAST! i will invest in an ELITE PACK as a token of loyalty. CCP should put it in the Elite pack, I'd be tempted.
"She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
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DeathwindRising
Rogue Spades EoN.
116
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Posted - 2013.10.31 05:55:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:snip
even if it is terrible... i will still use it because it looks freaking BAD ASS ;) If the current heavy frames are any indication it will come pre-nerfed. It would be nice if the Dev's pulled off a hat-trick and revamped the Heavy class when the others are put out. SILVERBACK 02 wrote:...also i would like to make a promise that once CCP releases this BEAST! i will invest in an ELITE PACK as a token of loyalty. CCP should put it in the Elite pack, I'd be tempted.
compare amarr and caldari assault suits. look at their shield hp and recharge rates, then look at amarr heavy suit shield hp and recharge rates. you should have an idea of what the caldari heavy will be like.
the caldari heavy will have slightly less ehp, but more mobility. while the higher shield recharge rate will help it to survive multiple fights, while generally beating down lesser suits in brawls.
the big question will be, what will the suit bonuses be? |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
6908
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Posted - 2013.10.31 05:58:00 -
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Minmatar heavy is going to be better. You know why? It's going to have more high slots than the Caldari and enough mobility to out strafe it.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2367
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:03:00 -
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Flux nade....
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 2
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![Vitharr Foebane Vitharr Foebane](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
166
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:26:00 -
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Heavy laser FTW! Oh... nvm...![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png)
Dedicated fattie in need of new heavy content.
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![Enkidu Camuel Enkidu Camuel](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Enkidu Camuel
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
129
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Posted - 2013.10.31 07:45:00 -
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Comparing the Caldari Heavy design with the other models I suppose that it will be the "fastest" of all the Heavies in the game, so that might be a small advantage... also, if at least one Complex Shield Energizer do wonders in any of the current suits, imagine a Cal heavy stacking shields plus one Energizer, but as Kirk said that Heavy will only work if it has not only a fast shield depletion recharge, but also a fastest shield recharge overall... after all, I can already tell that it will have at least 2 low slots or if I'm being optimistic perhaps 3 low slots at proto, so dual tanking might or not might be possible for that heavy... the real nightmare will start for all shield users once the Caldari gets all their racial stuff, I can already see it... fluxes and Scramblers everywhere.
Major DUST fact.
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![Aero Yassavi Aero Yassavi](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3467
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Posted - 2013.10.31 07:53:00 -
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I dare you to take that suit and go Caldari Commando instead of Caldari Sentinel ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation!
Amarr Victor!
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![Enkidu Camuel Enkidu Camuel](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Enkidu Camuel
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
129
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Posted - 2013.10.31 08:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I dare you to take that suit and go Caldari Commando instead of Caldari Sentinel ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
I'll be playing in my holodeck with my grandchildrens when we get the Caldari Commando.
Major DUST fact.
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SILVERBACK 02
CALDARI SPECIAL FORCES -the specials
235
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Minmatar heavy is going to be better. You know why? It's going to have more high slots than the Caldari and enough mobility to out strafe it.
how can you have more high slots and speed then a SHIELD heavy lmao!
and heavys dont strafe.
"once more into the fray,
into the last good battle il ever know,
live and die on this day,
live and die in this day"
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SILVERBACK 02
CALDARI SPECIAL FORCES -the specials
236
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:10:00 -
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Enkidu Camuel wrote:Comparing the Caldari Heavy design with the other models I suppose that it will be the "fastest" of all the Heavies in the game, so that might be a small advantage... also, if at least one Complex Shield Energizer do wonders in any of the current suits, imagine a Cal heavy stacking shields plus one Energizer, but as Kirk said that Heavy will only work if it has not only a fast shield depletion recharge, but also a fastest shield recharge overall... after all, I can already tell that it will have at least 2 low slots or if I'm being optimistic perhaps 3 low slots at proto, so dual tanking might or not might be possible for that heavy... the real nightmare will start for all shield users once the Caldari gets all their racial stuff, I can already see it... fluxes and Scramblers everywhere.
guess people have to make that choice...
use what they want or use what gets them a better kd/r (try hards)
personally anyone who uses a plasma cannon kudos to you!
"once more into the fray,
into the last good battle il ever know,
live and die on this day,
live and die in this day"
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g forc3
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:47:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:snip
even if it is terrible... i will still use it because it looks freaking BAD ASS ;) If the current heavy frames are any indication it will come pre-nerfed. It would be nice if the Dev's pulled off a hat-trick and revamped the Heavy class when the others are put out. SILVERBACK 02 wrote:...also i would like to make a promise that once CCP releases this BEAST! i will invest in an ELITE PACK as a token of loyalty. CCP should put it in the Elite pack, I'd be tempted. compare amarr and caldari assault suits. look at their shield hp and recharge rates, then look at amarr heavy suit shield hp and recharge rates. you should have an idea of what the caldari heavy will be like. the caldari heavy will have slightly less ehp, but more mobility. while the higher shield recharge rate will help it to survive multiple fights, while generally beating down lesser suits in brawls. the big question will be, what will the suit bonuses be? The bonuses I was thinking about was something to do with the forge gun and possibly something that affects its shield recharge rate or shield extender efficiency. |
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SILVERBACK 02
CALDARI SPECIAL FORCES -the specials
236
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:50:00 -
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hopefully sheild extender and regulator 10% bonus
"once more into the fray,
into the last good battle il ever know,
live and die on this day,
live and die in this day"
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
530
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:53:00 -
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Better get that Elite pack before the 6th...
But OT, that Caldari Heavy is really sweet! In fact, I can't wait for either of the two shield-based Heavy suits to come out. It'll be very cool to put kincats in the lows and shield extenders in the highs. Speedy heavy suit? Yes, please!
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SILVERBACK 02
CALDARI SPECIAL FORCES -the specials
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:54:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I dare you to take that suit and go Caldari Commando instead of Caldari Sentinel ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
challenge accepted. :P
"once more into the fray,
into the last good battle il ever know,
live and die on this day,
live and die in this day"
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1955
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:56:00 -
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Check out the shield stats on the Amarr heavy, and you'll get an idea of why the Cal heavy will not be as awesome as people expect. It's the Cal Scout that will be awesome, |
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1176
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:57:00 -
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The caldari heavy will be scary snipers. |
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g forc3
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:22:00 -
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The thing I'd like to know most about would be the base health and slot count.
Born Gallente. Caldari at heart.
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Victor889
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
43
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:24:00 -
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Looks like the robot suits I used to make as a kid out of Tupperware boxes.
I can haz all your Officer Heavy weapons?
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
942
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:28:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:Better get that Elite pack before the 6th...
Somehow I think CCP is going to miss the deadline for the OP to fulfill his promise...
Honestly, every single racial Heavy suit looks awesome to me. I'll probably invest in all four over time and find a specific use for each, especially if each suit gets a bonus to its racial Heavy Weapon. (Amarr Sentinel "bonus" makes me think that'll be the case.)
I JUST WANT THE SUITS IN THE DAMN GAME. Staring at the Fanfest 5/2013 pictures just doesn't do it any more.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
163
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:43:00 -
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Personally i think peopel are letting their imaginations get away with them when it comes to the racial heavies.
I cant see CCP giving the caldari/minny heavies too many hislots cos the playerbase will just pack it with damage mods. i think the suits will all have the same slot layout but shield/armor will be determined by base stats and skill bonus
Say the total base HP for a heavy is 960 (going on amarr who usually have equal shield/armor)
Caldari Shield 720 Armor 240
Amarr Shield 480 Armor 480
Gallente Shield 240 Armor 720
Minmatar Shield 640 Armor 320
But i think the slot layout will only be 2high 3 low at proto level. shield tanks can use the lows for regulators, armor tankers for the plates/reppers |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1955
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:50:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Personally i think peopel are letting their imaginations get away with them when it comes to the racial heavies.
I cant see CCP giving the caldari/minny heavies too many hislots cos the playerbase will just pack it with damage mods. i think the suits will all have the same slot layout but shield/armor will be determined by base stats and skill bonus
Say the total base HP for a heavy is 960 (going on amarr who usually have equal shield/armor)
Caldari Shield 720 Armor 240
Amarr Shield 480 Armor 480
Gallente Shield 240 Armor 720
Minmatar Shield 640 Armor 320
But i think the slot layout will only be 2high 3 low at proto level. shield tanks can use the lows for regulators, armor tankers for the plates/reppers
Don't forget that the Amarr are generally slower & boast greater HP at the cost of fewer module slots. The other heavies will likely have 6 slots and about 90 less hp. The minmatar are somewhat less predictable. Their Scout & Assault are shield-friendly, but their logi has a trend-breaking slot layout and more armour than shield. The Minny heavy could be an armour tank. |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
992
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:10:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:...Flux grenades? Plus an Assault SMG = Dead Caldari Heavy
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives....
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
943
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:49:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:I cant see CCP giving the caldari/minny heavies too many hislots cos the playerbase will just pack it with damage mods.
CCP hasn't seen this as a problem for Assaults or Logis, why would they start with Heavy? In any case, stacking more than 2x Damage Mods is a waste of slots unless you're using a sniper rifle. The stacking penalty gets pretty severe.
Alaika Arbosa wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:...Flux grenades? Plus an Assault SMG = Dead Caldari Heavy
I expect to see most Caldari Heavies wielding long-range weaponry to avoid that very situation. God help us all if it they get a Forge Gun bonus of some sort...
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
165
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:53:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Personally i think peopel are letting their imaginations get away with them when it comes to the racial heavies.
I cant see CCP giving the caldari/minny heavies too many hislots cos the playerbase will just pack it with damage mods. i think the suits will all have the same slot layout but shield/armor will be determined by base stats and skill bonus
Say the total base HP for a heavy is 960 (going on amarr who usually have equal shield/armor)
Caldari Shield 720 Armor 240
Amarr Shield 480 Armor 480
Gallente Shield 240 Armor 720
Minmatar Shield 640 or 320 Armor 320 or 640
But i think the slot layout will only be 2high 3 low at proto level. shield tanks can use the lows for regulators, armor tankers for the plates/reppers Don't forget that the Amarr are generally slower & boast greater HP at the cost of fewer module slots. The other heavies will likely have 6 slots and about 90 less hp. The minmatar are somewhat less predictable. Their Scout & Assault are shield-friendly, but their logi has a trend-breaking slot layout and more armour than shield. The Minny heavy could be an armour tank.
yup Minmatar are a sod to predict. even in EVE their ships switch between shield and armor. usually they combat orientated are shield tanked but usually can hold a good armor tank as well if needed. the minny and gallente seem to have the most slots (on logis) with 12 in total (3/5/4 on proto gal and 4/4/4 proto minny) with amarr having 6 slots on proto sentinel maybe minny and gallente will get 7? 2/5 on gallente 3/4 or 4/3 on minmatar (depending on tank type)with caldari maybe going 4/2? but again ccp risk people putting 3 complex damage mods in it... although that would fit with caldari's aggressive combat personalities |
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
686
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:54:00 -
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currently the shield heavy is a cal logi/ass. it's awsome how we each like a particular frame and stick with it. |
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