DUST Search - The Amarrians in Faction Warfare

Aqua-Regia wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Atiim wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Aqua-Regia wrote:

Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up.

Yup. besides the few squads running out of PIE GD and the guys we know who FW from AE and EoN the rest of them are garbage.

LOL This is why we need restrictions on who can join FW

I wont deny that would be nice. But not in keeping with the spirit of FW. Control of the warzone needs to be in the hands of corporations not the blue dot masses who cant take a point between the other 10 members of the team. I mean half the Minmatar teams Aero and I go up against aren't even all that good, but were denied the win because we are either the attacking or baby sitting the one objective Aero and I took ourselves. It would also help if he stopped running scout and he could be super Amarr again.

I feel like this most of the time, Why can't the blue camp the one objective we have so my squad can cap the other. If only I have a dog collars to leash the randoms to the objective.

"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

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Aqua-Regia 485	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:16:00 - [1] - Quote Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòíNewbieGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòúRNDGòáGòòGòÜGòíMHPDGòPGò¢
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1937	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:18:00 - [2] - Quote You'd think for a bunch of religious nuts we'd be a little more zealous.
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 11427	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:19:00 - [3] - Quote I been too busy in pc to carry blue dots in Amarr fw. Dust 514's #1 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 465	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:19:00 - [4] - Quote It's better this way If you can't solo me w/MLT AV, or if you get shot by infantry, it's your fault -Tanker's Logic (New ones everyday!)
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2432	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:21:00 - [5] - Quote With all the circle jerking they just can't find the time to fight. I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3785	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:25:00 - [6] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. Yup. besides the few squads running out of PIE GD and the guys we know who FW from AE and EoN the rest of them are garbage. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 465	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:26:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. Yup. besides the few squads running out of PIE GD and the guys we know who FW from AE and EoN the rest of them are garbage. LOL This is why we need restrictions on who can join FW If you can't solo me w/MLT AV, or if you get shot by infantry, it's your fault -Tanker's Logic (New ones everyday!)
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 353	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:34:00 - [8] - Quote It's because the band-wagoners are gone Aqua. The Amarrian push was due to the player rewards. Now it's back to normal, with the Minmatar having the majority of supporters that care about FW. Once the player and LP markets go live, the Amarr will once again have better rewards, and as a result, will begin winning again. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy handing those slave owning, pious d-bags their asses. If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
Eris Ernaga DUST University Ivy League 616	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:35:00 - [9] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. Honest they are trash, don't worry they're getting picked up on Friday ;).
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3785	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:37:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. Yup. besides the few squads running out of PIE GD and the guys we know who FW from AE and EoN the rest of them are garbage. LOL This is why we need restrictions on who can join FW I wont deny that would be nice. But not in keeping with the spirit of FW. Control of the warzone needs to be in the hands of corporations not the blue dot masses who cant take a point between the other 10 members of the team. I mean half the Minmatar teams Aero and I go up against aren't even all that good, but were denied the win because we are either the attacking or baby sitting the one objective Aero and I took ourselves. It would also help if he stopped running scout and he could be super Amarr again. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"

Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2434	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:40:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. Yup. besides the few squads running out of PIE GD and the guys we know who FW from AE and EoN the rest of them are garbage. LOL This is why we need restrictions on who can join FW There needs to be Parameters for you to be each Factions FW. Like you must meet these requirements: [example 1] [example 2] [example 3] Then as the progression of district capture happens the parameters get even more strict. I.e. Your standing within the Faction. (to reduce the chance of griefers in important battles.) I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
Aqua-Regia 485	Posted - 2013.10.30 18:46:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. Yup. besides the few squads running out of PIE GD and the guys we know who FW from AE and EoN the rest of them are garbage. LOL This is why we need restrictions on who can join FW I wont deny that would be nice. But not in keeping with the spirit of FW. Control of the warzone needs to be in the hands of corporations not the blue dot masses who cant take a point between the other 10 members of the team. I mean half the Minmatar teams Aero and I go up against aren't even all that good, but were denied the win because we are either the attacking or baby sitting the one objective Aero and I took ourselves. It would also help if he stopped running scout and he could be super Amarr again. I feel like this most of the time, Why can't the blue camp the one objective we have so my squad can cap the other. If only I have a dog collars to leash the randoms to the objective. GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòíNewbieGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòúRNDGòáGòòGòÜGòíMHPDGòPGò¢
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3788	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:08:00 - [13] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: Is it just me or is the Amarr random blue dots more useless than Minmatar in Faction Warfare. Most of the game I seen and play the Minmatar actually trying and attempt to win the battle, unlike the Amarr that just hang in the back of the objective and not move up. Yup. besides the few squads running out of PIE GD and the guys we know who FW from AE and EoN the rest of them are garbage. LOL This is why we need restrictions on who can join FW I wont deny that would be nice. But not in keeping with the spirit of FW. Control of the warzone needs to be in the hands of corporations not the blue dot masses who cant take a point between the other 10 members of the team. I mean half the Minmatar teams Aero and I go up against aren't even all that good, but were denied the win because we are either the attacking or baby sitting the one objective Aero and I took ourselves. It would also help if he stopped running scout and he could be super Amarr again. I feel like this most of the time, Why can't the blue camp the one objective we have so my squad can cap the other. If only I have a dog collars to leash the randoms to the objective. Dunno why they cant. I called tank on my favourite map Fractured Road, we normally always win on that map. I sat at A for the entire match waiting for a blue... or green dot to hack the point. No one even bothered until 15 mins into the match by that time no one was even spawning on the point. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1730	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:11:00 - [14] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: It's because the band-wagoners are gone Aqua. The Amarrian push was due to the player rewards. Now it's back to normal, with the Minmatar having the majority of supporters that care about FW. Once the player and LP markets go live, the Amarr will once again have better rewards, and as a result, will begin winning again. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy handing those slave owning, pious d-bags their asses. This is true, I only hope the combat rifle is good enough to nudge some to our side..... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 1
Aqua-Regia 485	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:15:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: LOL This is why we need restrictions on who can join FW I wont deny that would be nice. But not in keeping with the spirit of FW. Control of the warzone needs to be in the hands of corporations not the blue dot masses who cant take a point between the other 10 members of the team. I mean half the Minmatar teams Aero and I go up against aren't even all that good, but were denied the win because we are either the attacking or baby sitting the one objective Aero and I took ourselves. It would also help if he stopped running scout and he could be super Amarr again. I feel like this most of the time, Why can't the blue camp the one objective we have so my squad can cap the other. If only I have a dog collars to leash the randoms to the objective. Dunno why they cant. I called tank on my favourite map Fractured Road, we normally always win on that map. I sat at A for the entire match waiting for a blue... or green dot to hack the point. No one even bothered until 15 mins into the match by that time no one was even spawning on the point. When I say squad it mostly a 3 to 2 man squad, no tanks. GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòíNewbieGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòúRNDGòáGòòGòÜGòíMHPDGòPGò¢
Aqua-Regia 485	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:18:00 - [16] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: It's because the band-wagoners are gone Aqua. The Amarrian push was due to the player rewards. Now it's back to normal, with the Minmatar having the majority of supporters that care about FW. Once the player and LP markets go live, the Amarr will once again have better rewards, and as a result, will begin winning again. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy handing those slave owning, pious d-bags their asses. This is true, I only hope the combat rifle is good enough to nudge some to our side..... I just hope it be like the smg with AR rang and ammo. Edit; N/M seen the stats it okay GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòíNewbieGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòúRNDGòáGòòGòÜGòíMHPDGòPGò¢
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 988	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:18:00 - [17] - Quote I regularly play pro Gallente/Minmatar and from what I have seen, it is just like Pubs, stomp or be stomped.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 31	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:25:00 - [18] - Quote May I ask how you know they're all Amarr do you hit Show Info. on each one, 1 by 1 after match to know for certaion they are Amarr? If your looking at dropsuits then you are way off because the Amarr dropsuits are quite popular in every race....
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1574	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:26:00 - [19] - Quote It usually comes down to who has less stupid NPC corp players. Check out & sub my youtube. Yay!
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 31	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:30:00 - [20] - Quote As for the Amarr Empire itself in FW, the Amarr & Caldari weren't doing too great prior to The Factional Event, during it in just a few days Amarr & Caldari had practically fully conquored Gallente & Minmitar afterwards it went back bad also good players started specifically fighting for Gallente & Minmitar towards the end of The Event to "restabalize it"

Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 31	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:33:00 - [21] - Quote Personally i'm slightly upset that they won't try to restabalize Amarr & Caldari to be even with Gallente & Minmitar, everyone supported Amarr & Caldari when it mattered afterwards alot if not most people dropped interest this says alot alone
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3788	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:45:00 - [22] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: Personally i'm slightly upset that they won't try to restabalize Amarr & Caldari to be even with Gallente & Minmitar, everyone supported Amarr & Caldari when it mattered afterwards alot if not most people dropped interest this says alot alone (( OOC everyone wants to feel like the good guy In some games so basically they picked the most recognisable groups from our real world and said. WE IZ DA GUD GUIZE and ran with it. I doubt even half of them know about the evil **** their factions do.)) "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3431	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:46:00 - [23] - Quote From my perspective, and I don't have anyway to prove this but CCP can look into their stats and find out, the problem is two fold. 1) When you queue to search for a FW match, it looks for a district to attack. This is supported by the fact that if your faction owns 100% of the districts, thus no districts to attack, it results in the infamous Scotty error. Similarly, if there are a few districts to attack, but their is already a match currently going on in them, it will result in the Scotty error. So as soon as the losing faction gains a district, it will be the subject of all attacks. Thus, unless there is a massive surge by one side, like we saw when they introduced faction rewards, nothing will change. This is also further supported by the fact that since they introduced the new queue system for Faction Warfare, the state of control has always been one end of the extreme. Either one side owns 99-100%, or the other side owns 99-100%. The only time we see it inbetween are during these massive surges, which have flipped it to the other extreme in about 2 to 3 days. 2) Not many people like the Amarr, because the game portrays us as evil religious slavers. More people would rather be the space rebels, since popular sci-fi usually portrays the rebels as the good guys. Similarly, not many people like the Caldari who are portrayed as evil corporate pigs, while the Gallente are painted as the freedom fighter heroes of New Eden. Basically, since Dust 514's client doesn't share any of the positives of Amarr/Caldari or any of the negatives of Minmatar/Gallente, more people queue up for the latter. What this results in is all the people who don't care (i.e. they have all four factions checked) end up in Amarr/Caldari to balance the numbers out. This is supported at least from my experience of seeing several NPC corps from all races stacking up on the Amarr/Caldari side. And generally, these are not that good of players. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 11434	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:50:00 - [24] - Quote Ammar is losing because I busy in pc Dust 514's #1 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2436	Posted - 2013.10.30 19:59:00 - [25] - Quote DUST 514 Gallente faction description wrote: ...Today, some of the bravest men and women in New Eden man Gallentean starships. I was fine with the description until this part which, as much as I love it, seems a bit too much in favoritism of one faction. It made me laugh how favorable that quote was. There needs to be a part where it notes that while the Federation is home to the most liberal, freedom loving, free spirited people in New Eden the Federation is far from the Ideals of Gallente Culture being plagued with corruption and hypocrisy. All the other Racial descriptions are fine as they include negatives and positives about each race. The Caldari could include a little bit more about Cultural characteristics like it does the other Factions but honestly that may represent the Caldari even more that they left that out. I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 989	Posted - 2013.10.30 20:06:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Vinsarrow wrote: Personally i'm slightly upset that they won't try to restabalize Amarr & Caldari to be even with Gallente & Minmitar, everyone supported Amarr & Caldari when it mattered afterwards alot if not most people dropped interest this says alot alone (( OOC everyone wants to feel like the good guy In some games so basically they picked the most recognisable groups from our real world and said. WE IZ DA GUD GUIZE and ran with it. I doubt even half of them know about the evil ** their factions do.)) LOL, from an RP perspective, I embrace the evil ** my faction does. Search "St. Arzad" on the wiki
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3789	Posted - 2013.10.30 20:10:00 - [27] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Ammar is losing because I busy in pc Admittedly Amarr FW now consists of PIE AIC.... Now that you guys, all of you are Amarr loyalists, are fighting one another in Molden Heath. I guess after the event most of you just said "Minmatar be scrubz lets go fight each other somewhere else" I wish I was in PC..... FW is boring either without good competition or friends to play with, neither of which we have now. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3789	Posted - 2013.10.30 20:13:00 - [28] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: DUST 514 Gallente faction description wrote: ...Today, some of the bravest men and women in New Eden man Gallentean starships. I was fine with the description until this part which, as much as I love it, seems a bit too much in favoritism of one faction. It made me laugh how favorable that quote was. There needs to be a part where it notes that while the Federation is home to the most liberal, freedom loving, free spirited people in New Eden the Federation is far from the Ideals of Gallente Culture being plagued with corruption and hypocrisy. All the other Racial descriptions are fine as they include negatives and positives about each race. The Caldari could include a little bit more about Cultural characteristics like it does the other Factions but honestly that may represent the Caldari even more that they left that out. The few guys I know who do pilot Gallente ships in EVE are utter **** bags and bloody pirates.... sorry Beth but you know this is true. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2437	Posted - 2013.10.30 20:17:00 - [29] - Quote True Adamance wrote: The few guys I know who do pilot Gallente ships in EVE are utter **** bags and bloody pirates.... sorry Beth but you know this is true. Never noticed such a thing, even though I spend most of my time dealing in wormhole space my general opinion of most New Eden residents are that they are all mostly douchebags. Such is the nature of New Eden (Which I love) I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3789	Posted - 2013.10.30 20:23:00 - [30] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: True Adamance wrote: The few guys I know who do pilot Gallente ships in EVE are utter **** bags and bloody pirates.... sorry Beth but you know this is true. Never noticed such a thing, even though I spend most of my time dealing in wormhole space my general opinion of most New Eden residents are that they are all mostly douchebags. Such is the nature of New Eden (Which I love) Oh you should. The one guy who taught me never to trust anyone in EVE was from Snuffbox, and I still tell anecdotally the story of my first encounter with bloody pirates. Wormhole space is a whole other kettle of fish. You never know who you are going to get through that static C3.... miners, or hunters..... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"



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