DUST Search - [REQUEST] We're getting MLT versions of the SC, CR, and RR, right?

CharCharOdell wrote:

Seriously, it is necessary, or we're still gonna have noobs only skilling into the PR (plasma rifle) because they don't know any better.

A good idea, for the sake of coolness, would be to redesign the BPO MLT starter frontline/medic suits to use the racial rifle that matches their suit. It'd be sooooo cool! (except for me bc im stupid gallente)

It'd also make it so that Gallente aren't the best starter suit.

And can we have mlt varients of every other weapon, while we are at it? I want to be a derpy mlt heavy with mlt hmg!

And mlt flaylock, md, and LR are needed too.

And these suits all need to have completed versions that can be bought for isk in the MLT marketplace. (In the turtorial, new players should be forced to go to this area of the marketplace, when learning about the marketplace, and be told to pick a militia fitting to try out.)

Like this:

Marketplace
->
Militia Gear
->
Pre-Made Fittings
->

MN Grenadier [MN mlt suit with mlt mass driver]

AM Point Defense [AM heavy with mlt HMG]

AM Laser Assault [AM medium with laser-all mlt]

Gunslinger [MN light with duel mlt flaylock]

Basically, things like that so new players start to understand the different races, better, and learn that there is more than the assault rifle. Forcing new players to waste their meager SP sum (500k lol) is cruel. They should be able to experiment with every possible fitting combination without spending any SP and only when they LOVE a fitting, should they spend SP to make it good.

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CharCharOdell 1374	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:06:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, it is necessary, or we're still gonna have noobs only skilling into the PR (plasma rifle) because they don't know any better. A good idea, for the sake of coolness, would be to redesign the BPO MLT starter frontline/medic suits to use the racial rifle that matches their suit. It'd be sooooo cool! (except for me bc im stupid gallente) It'd also make it so that Gallente aren't the best starter suit. And can we have mlt varients of every other weapon, while we are at it? I want to be a derpy mlt heavy with mlt hmg! And mlt flaylock, md, and LR are needed too. And these suits all need to have completed versions that can be bought for isk in the MLT marketplace. (In the turtorial, new players should be forced to go to this area of the marketplace, when learning about the marketplace, and be told to pick a militia fitting to try out.) Like this: Marketplace -> Militia Gear -> Pre-Made Fittings -> MN Grenadier [MN mlt suit with mlt mass driver] AM Point Defense [AM heavy with mlt HMG] AM Laser Assault [AM medium with laser-all mlt] Gunslinger [MN light with duel mlt flaylock] Basically, things like that so new players start to understand the different races, better, and learn that there is more than the assault rifle. Forcing new players to waste their meager SP sum (500k lol) is cruel. They should be able to experiment with every possible fitting combination without spending any SP and only when they LOVE a fitting, should they spend SP to make it good. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 542	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:07:00 - [2] - Quote I move that from now on, we refer to the Assault Rifle as the Plasma Rifle in the forums. Hoooooooollllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. It's a signature.
CharCharOdell 1374	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:07:00 - [3] - Quote Assault Rifle = Plasma rifle. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Clips A'hoy The Generals EoN. 60	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:08:00 - [4] - Quote More in the lines of: we most equipment to have a MLT version of themselves, if not all. The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. The Scriptures, Book I
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 789	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:10:00 - [5] - Quote and officer! (please)
Knight Soiaire Mercenaries of Sunlight 2872	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:10:00 - [6] - Quote Only if the MD has a magazine capacity of 4. A load of noobs running around with MDs, a Scouts worse nightmare. Knight Soiaire's 40mil ISK Raffle! *Mercenaries of Sunlight!*
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1307	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:10:00 - [7] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: I move that from now on, we refer to the Assault Rifle as the Plasma Rifle in the forums. I 2nd the montion. If that montion fails, then I nominate the AR to be called the Blaster Rifle.
Clips A'hoy The Generals EoN. 62	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:11:00 - [8] - Quote low genius wrote: and officer! (please) Ohhhh officer MD and ScR... Hmm... The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. The Scriptures, Book I
CharCharOdell 1380	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:12:00 - [9] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Only if the MD has a magazine capacity of 4. A load of noobs running around with MDs, a Scouts worse nightmare. lol. i totally agree with you on that one. haha. it would make sense, because all mlt variants usually just lose capacity rather than dps. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 543	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:13:00 - [10] - Quote I would prefer to see new players give a limited number of MLT weapons like the Laser Rifle, Mass Driver, HMG and various Assault Rifles but not necessarily make all these items available for purchase on the market. It is enough to give folks a taste without forcing them to invest SP but will not open the flood gates by having significant militia variants readily available to all. Once the secondary market opens up then folks will be able to get them that way, but the price will probably be high enough to deter all but the most dedicated users. As for making Starter Fits with race specific AR's. That would probably be cool, provided CCP is better about educating new players better when they are making these selections during character set up.

Pje251296 KILL ORDERS 151	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:16:00 - [11] - Quote A training arena to test new pre-made fits could be a good idea but more isk, sp and time in the Academy is needed for the newberries to get the skills needed to survive.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 791	Posted - 2013.10.29 17:19:00 - [12] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: I move that from now on, we refer to the Assault Rifle as the Plasma Rifle in the forums. I 2nd the montion. If that montion fails, then I nominate the AR to be called the Blaster Rifle. blaster rifle. I like that.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 417	Posted - 2013.10.29 19:12:00 - [13] - Quote RydogV wrote: I would prefer to see new players given a limited number of MLT weapons like the Laser Rifle, Mass Driver, HMG and various Assault Rifles but not necessarily make all these items available for purchase on the market. It is enough to give folks a taste without forcing them to invest SP but will not open the flood gates by having significant militia variants readily available to all. Once the secondary market opens up then folks will be able to get them that way, but the price will probably be high enough to deter all but the most dedicated users. As for making Starter Fits with race specific AR's. That would probably be cool, provided CCP is better about educating new players better when they are making these selections during character set up. I can just see all those poor New Amarr players using a scrambler rifle with no points into them. I like the idea but there will be a lot of suicides from that camp. Who says you can't kill in style? Fear the tribes.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 6789	Posted - 2013.10.29 19:19:00 - [14] - Quote This is so obvious, and makes so much sense, but I bet you CCP won't do it. Players will have to make thread after thread about it, and only months later will they reply and say something like "in the future we may consider it" in the weekly feedback/requests updates thread. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 446	Posted - 2013.10.29 19:35:00 - [15] - Quote Ummmmm excuse me. Who needs all this useless crap? Where's my MLT and Officer's Plasma Cannon? The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1332	Posted - 2013.10.29 19:37:00 - [16] - Quote low genius wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: I move that from now on, we refer to the Assault Rifle as the Plasma Rifle in the forums. I 2nd the montion. If that montion fails, then I nominate the AR to be called the Blaster Rifle. blaster rifle. I like that. Already called the Plasma Rifle in the lore so...... 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
VikingKong iBUN Mcalpines Fusiliers Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2013.10.30 03:12:00 - [17] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: I move that from now on, we refer to the Assault Rifle as the Plasma Rifle in the forums. I 2nd the montion. If that montion fails, then I nominate the AR to be called the Blaster Rifle. this
CharCharOdell 1395	Posted - 2013.10.30 03:24:00 - [18] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: This is so obvious, and makes so much sense (MLT variants for all "racial assault rifles" + having them in racial starter fits), but I bet you CCP won't do it. Players will have to make thread after thread about it, and only months later will they reply and say something like "in the future we may consider it" in the weekly feedback/requests updates thread. PSH. Bro, I'm the King of QQ. If the Mango wants something to happen, it will. [refers to AR and AV nerf / tank buff] ;) How long have I been QQing about those things? Hahaha. It'll happen. I'll just complain. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards 121	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:38:00 - [19] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Seriously, it is necessary, or we're still gonna have noobs only skilling into the PR (plasma rifle) because they don't know any better. A good idea, for the sake of coolness, would be to redesign the BPO MLT starter frontline/medic suits to use the racial rifle that matches their suit. It'd be sooooo cool! (except for me bc im stupid gallente) It'd also make it so that Gallente aren't the best starter suit. And can we have mlt varients of every other weapon, while we are at it? I want to be a derpy mlt heavy with mlt hmg! And mlt flaylock, md, and LR are needed too. And these suits all need to have completed versions that can be bought for isk in the MLT marketplace. (In the turtorial, new players should be forced to go to this area of the marketplace, when learning about the marketplace, and be told to pick a militia fitting to try out.) Like this: Marketplace -> Militia Gear -> Pre-Made Fittings -> MN Grenadier [MN mlt suit with mlt mass driver] AM Point Defense [AM heavy with mlt HMG] AM Laser Assault [AM medium with laser-all mlt] Gunslinger [MN light with duel mlt flaylock] Basically, things like that so new players start to understand the different races, better, and learn that there is more than the assault rifle. Forcing new players to waste their meager SP sum (500k lol) is cruel. They should be able to experiment with every possible fitting combination without spending any SP and only when they LOVE a fitting, should they spend SP to make it good. You go up to the counter with like 300 hundred other people and market clerk says sir! sir! sir! We are working on restock all the rail rifles but we can't keep up with your 100 units every minute (-í° -£-û -í°) Nerf Me If You Dare.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7396	Posted - 2013.12.11 10:33:00 - [20] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: This is so obvious, and makes so much sense (MLT variants for all "racial assault rifles" + having them in racial starter fits), but I bet you CCP won't do it. Players will have to make thread after thread about it, and only months later will they reply and say something like "in the future we may consider it" in the weekly feedback/requests updates thread. I knew they wouldn't do it, so begins the months long campaign to make them listen and do the obvious sensible thing. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1215	Posted - 2013.12.11 10:38:00 - [21] - Quote Clips A'hoy wrote: More in the lines of: we need most equipment to have a MLT version of themselves, if not all. I don't feel this need exists as much as it did before 1.7. You can now get versions of these racial weapons which don't require any skills through the LP store.
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Renegade Alliance 197	Posted - 2013.12.11 10:59:00 - [22] - Quote If all MLT variants cannot be released for imbalance, that should ring alarm bells Best game with a Python: 33 kills 1 death - Domination (as of 1.6)
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7500	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:44:00 - [23] - Quote Do it! Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7593	Posted - 2013.12.23 11:55:00 - [24] - Quote Do it! Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 626	Posted - 2013.12.23 14:53:00 - [25] - Quote Want to try out one of the new guns without investing SP? Get the basic model at your local Faction store. The SP requirements are exactly the same as the one's CCP sells for Aurum, so spend LP to your heart's content and make sure that its the gun you want before going all in. Want to try a proto suit before you can actually use it? Buy a Faction Proto suit, lower SP costs have you in them at Advanced (LV3) skills. Enjoy. LogiGod earns his pips
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1952	Posted - 2013.12.23 15:39:00 - [26] - Quote The four main infantry rifles definitely need militia versions! If starter suits are given their racial Infantry Rifle, I think the other racial starter suits should be available as complete fits in the Militia Market for a very low price. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 323	Posted - 2013.12.23 16:18:00 - [27] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: I move that from now on, we refer to the Assault Rifle as the Plasma Rifle in the forums. In game chats too go make a general discussion thread for it! "May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
The-Errorist Closed For Business For All Mankind 429	Posted - 2013.12.29 06:28:00 - [28] - Quote I want this too and for the starter suits to have them too based on starting race.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7691	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:06:00 - [29] - Quote Needed Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 358	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:53:00 - [30] - Quote i wish militia items only existed in starter bpos and couldnt be purchased, making fw gear the new militia testing gear when p2p market hits "May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.



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