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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

Mortedeamor wrote:

Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

I agree the current academy is much too short but 5 million SP is too much. It's more than you need to compete in pubs and too much of an advantage over newberries. I think 2 million would be about right.

they would never see newberries..and like i said remove sp cap for academy users and buff sp rewards...you would hit 5 mill sp faster sp gain would slow after you graduated

What do you mean, they would never see newberries? Because they would kill the brand new starter suit characters in the blink of an eye with their damage-modded duvolles? Not sure that's much of an argument for having 4mil+ SP characters in the academy...

I don't agree with removing the cap for people in the academy - that just makes the game seem too grindy. I think I'd have dropped it if I thought I'd always be miles behind 24/7 nolifers. Hitting the cap is enough of a grind as it is.

Maybe 1.5 x SP (which can be further increased with boosters) would be reasonable. However, I don't think that should disappear as soon as graduation. Sudden increase in difficulty+sudden decrease in SP=sure way to make people drop the game. Maybe something like this would work:

2 mil - leave academy
4 mil - no longer get 1.5xSP multiplier

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Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 545	Posted - 2013.10.29 11:57:00 - [1] - Quote ccp something you need to do asap . change graduation for the academy from 1200wp to 5 million sp . over haul sp rewards for academy matches . remove weekly sp cap for anyone in the academy this way a good gamer hopping on dust could grind out a 5 mill sp character in a non proto stomp environment before ever being tossed in the ocean with us and when they were tossed in they would have a decent fit with some background skills
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 522	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:02:00 - [2] - Quote What. I'll give this a 4/10. Will change depending on how this thread goes.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2060	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:02:00 - [3] - Quote +1 for the tittle ... it actually make me laugh pretty hard. Scrub Academy Make it official CCP.... Also +1 for the thread... is actually a good idea. a¦æ¦¬¦P¦¬a¦æGûêGûêGûêGûôGûÆGûæGûæß+¦-+-++»-+-í -ª+¦-+-++¦-ÅGûæGûæGûÆGûôGûêGûêGûêa¦æ¦¬¦P¦¬a¦æ `¦Æ-â-Åa+ó-+ a+¼+¦-Å-Å+¦-â-Å Gäô+¦v+¦Gäô 2`
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 547	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:04:00 - [4] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: +1 for the tittle ... it actually make me laugh pretty hard. Scrub Academy Make it official CCP.... Also +1 for the thread... is actually a good idea. sorry is what ive always called it lol ..never have actually played in it but common banning hammer u know with no cap someone who is serious could grind that 5 mill out overnight and come at us and stand a chance
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 154	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:06:00 - [5] - Quote I agree the current academy is much too short but 5 million SP is too much. It's more than you need to compete in pubs and too much of an advantage over newberries. I think 2 million would be about right.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 547	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:08:00 - [6] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I agree the current academy is much too short but 5 million SP is too much. It's more than you need to compete in pubs and too much of an advantage over newberries. I think 2 million would be about right. they would never see newberries..and like i said remove sp cap for academy users and buff sp rewards...you would hit 5 mill sp faster sp gain would slow after you graduated
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 547	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:11:00 - [7] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I agree the current academy is much too short but 5 million SP is too much. It's more than you need to compete in pubs and too much of an advantage over newberries. I think 2 million would be about right. the official line and measure for someone leaving the academy at this point would be 5 million sp so new berries would now have 5 mill sp..which is like 1/6 of what i have.. people in the academy would have 4,999,999 or under and would be under higher sp gain tiers and have no weekly cap meaning you could grind ur way to graduation in a few days tops
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1225	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:11:00 - [8] - Quote I like the idea, but wouldn't go as far as 5mill maybe 3 or 4 on a push, or even 200,000wp would be a good start. not 1200. Its gone from suck .....................................................to blow
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 547	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:13:00 - [9] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: I like the idea, but wouldn't go as far as 5mill maybe 3 or 4 on a push, or even 200,000wp would be a good start. not 1200. lol suck to blow describes it perfectly lol
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 154	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:22:00 - [10] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I agree the current academy is much too short but 5 million SP is too much. It's more than you need to compete in pubs and too much of an advantage over newberries. I think 2 million would be about right. they would never see newberries..and like i said remove sp cap for academy users and buff sp rewards...you would hit 5 mill sp faster sp gain would slow after you graduated What do you mean, they would never see newberries? Because they would kill the brand new starter suit characters in the blink of an eye with their damage-modded duvolles? Not sure that's much of an argument for having 4mil+ SP characters in the academy... I don't agree with removing the cap for people in the academy - that just makes the game seem too grindy. I think I'd have dropped it if I thought I'd always be miles behind 24/7 nolifers. Hitting the cap is enough of a grind as it is. Maybe 1.5 x SP (which can be further increased with boosters) would be reasonable. However, I don't think that should disappear as soon as graduation. Sudden increase in difficulty+sudden decrease in SP=sure way to make people drop the game. Maybe something like this would work: 2 mil - leave academy 4 mil - no longer get 1.5xSP multiplier

Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 547	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:22:00 - [11] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: I agree the current academy is much too short but 5 million SP is too much. It's more than you need to compete in pubs and too much of an advantage over newberries. I think 2 million would be about right. they would never see newberries..and like i said remove sp cap for academy users and buff sp rewards...you would hit 5 mill sp faster sp gain would slow after you graduated What do you mean, they would never see newberries? Because they would kill the brand new starter suit characters in the blink of an eye with their damage-modded duvolles? Not sure that's much of an argument for having 4mil+ SP characters in the academy... I don't agree with removing the cap for people in the academy - that just makes the game seem too grindy. I think I'd have dropped it if I thought I'd always be miles behind 24/7 nolifers. Hitting the cap is enough of a grind as it is. Maybe 1.5 x SP (which can be further increased with boosters) would be reasonable. However, I don't think that should disappear as soon as graduation. Sudden increase in difficulty+sudden decrease in SP=sure way to make people drop the game. Maybe something like this would work: 2 mil - leave academy 4 mil - no longer get 1.5xSP multiplier staging the multiplier drop is reasonable but 2 mill grad is not i would say no lower than 3.5 mil sp to graduate..and then have the sp multiplier drop around 5 or 6
Haerr Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 72	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:32:00 - [12] - Quote scrub academy, love it! :) +1
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 550	Posted - 2013.10.29 14:43:00 - [13] - Quote [/quote] What do you mean, they would never see newberries? Because they would kill the brand new starter suit characters in the blink of an eye with their damage-modded duvolles? Not sure that's much of an argument for having 4mil+ SP characters in the academy... [/quote] question which would you prefer to have 600 k sp and face 5 mill sp dedicated slayers or have 600k sp and face 30 mill sp slayers? right now blue dots get the latter in my suggested scrub academy at best you would face a duvoulle on an adv suit no one will be rocking a racial proto and 100 % MAXED main weapon and side arm and nade and equip and suit on 5 mill sp...at best the will have a half form suit and so right before they get dropped in vs us they would be good vs the academy newbs that is all. (and then shortly after they would be on our turf) .newbs may be stomped sometimes but it wouldnt be nearly as bad it would be players who have only played the game slightly longer than they have. and they wouldnt even have a chance of going against full on 20+ 30 + mill sp proto stompers..not till they are at 5 mill sp and have a proto weapon rocking an advanced racial or maybe a proto basic frame....they will at least stand a chance..not like starter suits do getting dropped into 30+ mill sp matches now
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 787	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:05:00 - [14] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE I think they're ahead of you.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1112	Posted - 2013.10.29 15:09:00 - [15] - Quote Chum the waters. Set them free. Steve Guttenberg Lives!
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 551	Posted - 2013.10.29 16:28:00 - [16] - Quote low genius wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE I think they're ahead of you. nope made this same post when they made the scrub academy to begin with


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