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negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:16:00 -
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I heard in the E3 build swarm launcher were dumbfire, was it op, cus the current stat wouldn't make it op and that it did have a spiral back then.
So what happen |
Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
2044
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:17:00 -
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You got the plasma cannon. |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
822
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:19:00 -
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I suppose CCP didn't like players shooting HAVs or other infantry at point blank range with dumbfire rockets. We got the Plasma Cannon, which sucks at AV and is one of the hardest to use weapons against infantry while also having the highest fitting cost. |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
279
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:22:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You got the plasma cannon.
You got to put a lot of sp into that thing if you want it to be lethal to HAVs |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
467
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:28:00 -
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at 175m they might aswell make it dumb fire. at that range you dont have time to lock.. let alone do it 4-5 times |
Kaze Eyrou
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
387
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:45:00 -
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The problem was they were a free fit. Swarms also did a ton of damage for almost no cost.
Imagine this: Look at your militia grenades. It's at 2 right now.
Now picture it as 8 grenades instead for the cost of 0 ISK.
With the damage of each swarm doing 330 * 4 for each missile meant that 1320, even with maxed, tanked out, prototype suits, you couldn't survive against it.
Hence the change from free-fire to lock on only. |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:46:00 -
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It was great for point blank attacks on hav's or dropships that tried to squish you. The amount of damage you could dish out with proto nades and then dumbfire swarms was great, But at that time good hav's were alot harder to kill. Although, i'd imagine it was more of an issue of ppl trying to swarm infantry that got it taken away. It was completely useless against infantry and looked even worse with having these explosions going off and in the middle, the intended target taking no damage. It confused the heck out of the new players.
I rather enjoyed the E3 build though. Vehicles everywhere, I could do well with only using my av fits. |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
280
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:40:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:The problem was they were a free fit. Swarms also did a ton of damage for almost no cost.
Imagine this: Look at your militia grenades. It's at 2 right now.
Now picture it as 8 grenades instead - for the cost of 0 ISK.
With the damage of each swarm doing 330 * 4 for each missile meant that 1320, even with maxed, tanked out, prototype suits, you couldn't survive against it.
Hence the change from free-fire to lock on only.
But in the DEV blog said that each missile dmg will be lowered |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1703
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:42:00 -
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If the damage and range is being lowered, I think dumb fire should be added on. It's only fair, objectively speaking. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
945
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:43:00 -
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negative49er wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You got the plasma cannon. You got to put a lot of sp into that thing if you want it to be lethal to HAVs
Not necessarily. I destroyed a Madrugar with a Plasma Cannon one time :D I won't tell you my secret  |
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
350
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:49:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:negative49er wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You got the plasma cannon. You got to put a lot of sp into that thing if you want it to be lethal to HAVs Not necessarily. I destroyed a Madrugar with a Plasma Cannon one time :D I won't tell you my secret
Cannon Squad?
5 complex damage mods?
Both of the above?
Last minute shot?
Random magic bullkitten? |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
946
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:50:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Patrick57 wrote:negative49er wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You got the plasma cannon. You got to put a lot of sp into that thing if you want it to be lethal to HAVs Not necessarily. I destroyed a Madrugar with a Plasma Cannon one time :D I won't tell you my secret Cannon Squad? 5 complex damage mods? Both of the above? Last minute shot? Random magic bullkitten?
One of those is right..... |
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