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Posted - 2013.10.27 20:46:00 -
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Its the damage mods... whatever weapon you stack damage mods on it would cause destruction even the plasma cannon with a OHK splash damage. Everyone complains that AR is OP but what you people don't realize is that the person using the Duvolle AR has got low shields and that means he's got damage mods so beware people with low shields. Even if they do nerf AR which i'm not with or against, those players stacking damage mods would find another weapon to do so and then players would start complaining about the weapon. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:07:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:hmmmm
Maybe it's the person using the weapon that makes it OP?
Things to think about....
No no no... listen.... damage mods.... damage mods....
PS: Yeah maybe a skilled player. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:10:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:STHAP LEAVE DEM DMG MODS ALONE
RAWR..... RAWR..... its what i do to people who acts childish but it's cool... seriously. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Damage mods make you have to give up something in that high slot for that extra damage output. Proficiency is the real issue since it's a passive skill that you don't have to give anything up for.
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:17:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Its the damage mods... whatever weapon you stack damage mods on it would cause destruction even the plasma cannon with a OHK splash damage. Everyone complains that AR is OP but what you people don't realize is that the person using the Duvolle AR has got low shields and that means he's got complex damage mods so beware people with low shields. Even if they do nerf AR which i'm not with or against, those players stacking damage mods would find another weapon to do so and then players would start complaining about the weapon.
Proficiency LVL 5 with 2 complex damage mods makes about 35% more damage, 3 complex damage mods could possibly make 40%. Plasma cannon can't OHK anything but scouts and low HP suits with its splash, even with damage mods. Also, its called gank. You have to sacrifice tank to get it. Fair tradeoff.
Maybe... or you wanna stack armor instead?... |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:19:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Its the damage mods... whatever weapon you stack damage mods on it would cause destruction even the plasma cannon with a OHK splash damage. Everyone complains that AR is OP but what you people don't realize is that the person using the Duvolle AR has got low shields and that means he's got complex damage mods so beware people with low shields. Even if they do nerf AR which i'm not with or against, those players stacking damage mods would find another weapon to do so and then players would start complaining about the weapon.
Proficiency LVL 5 with 2 complex damage mods makes about 35% more damage, 3 complex damage mods could possibly make 40%. Plasma cannon can't OHK anything but scouts and low HP suits with its splash, even with damage mods. Also, its called gank. You have to sacrifice tank to get it. Fair tradeoff. Once I OHKed a heavy with a standard Plasma Cannon :D
Yeah nice, depends if it was a direct hit or splash damage though. |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:22:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:
Lol what else? XD
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:23:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Its the damage mods... whatever weapon you stack damage mods on it would cause destruction even the plasma cannon with a OHK splash damage. Everyone complains that AR is OP but what you people don't realize is that the person using the Duvolle AR has got low shields and that means he's got complex damage mods so beware people with low shields. Even if they do nerf AR which i'm not with or against, those players stacking damage mods would find another weapon to do so and then players would start complaining about the weapon.
Proficiency LVL 5 with 2 complex damage mods makes about 35% more damage, 3 complex damage mods could possibly make 40%. Plasma cannon can't OHK anything but scouts and low HP suits with its splash, even with damage mods. Also, its called gank. You have to sacrifice tank to get it. Fair tradeoff. Maybe... or you wanna stack armor instead?... I can choose between having 18.9% more damage, or ~50% more health in the form of shields. Fair tradeoff.
Hmm... kill faster or with more shields you can run away... |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:29:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Damage mods make you have to give up something in that high slot for that extra damage output. Proficiency is the real issue since it's a passive skill that you don't have to give anything up for. If this gets nerfed we get respecs that a lot of sp
They said no respecs but i believe they said no "full respec" |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:35:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Its the damage mods... whatever weapon you stack damage mods on it would cause destruction even the plasma cannon with a OHK splash damage. Everyone complains that AR is OP but what you people don't realize is that the person using the Duvolle AR has got low shields and that means he's got complex damage mods so beware people with low shields. Even if they do nerf AR which i'm not with or against, those players stacking damage mods would find another weapon to do so and then players would start complaining about the weapon.
Proficiency LVL 5 with 2 complex damage mods makes about 35% more damage, 3 complex damage mods could possibly make 40%. Sounds like you have a bigger problem with proficiency than with damage mods. Damage mods don't make a weapon OP. Sorry, but that's just plain stupid. Your PlaC example proves that perfectly.
You can stack damage mods but not proficiency how is it plain stupid? |
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:37:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:You're right it's damage mods BUT not just.
Assault rifle is OP. and damage mods on make it just even worse.
I explain.
Before 1.4 the assault rifle was okay because half of the shot was missed because of hit detection.
After 1.4 it's like the AR was double damaged you see ?
AR must be nerfed on his range (Effective AND optimal).
To make it as intended a REAL short range assault rifle (40-80meters is not a short range for me.....)
AR got a big RoF because it's a CQC weapon so why it is used as medium long range ?
It's a "plasma rifle" it's supposed to be really close range (Like the plasma cannon that is used <30meters vs Swarms at 175meters.)
So that's pretty simply.
Make it lose a lot of range (8meters) to be effective only at close range.
But make it gain some RoF. (50 more).
It will make it dadly at close range as intended and not at mid range.
OR juste nerf it with the CCP hammer in range.
For the assault scrambler rifle the range is fine (laser is supposed to be Mid-Long range) just make it lose some RoF
I never noticed hit detection error with AR most people so i don't know what you're talking about. |
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