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Cere Harkens
Cerulean Systems
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:35:00 -
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One of the most consistent complaints on the forum is how high-level gear, particularly prototype gear, creates imbalance. Part of the counter-argument to that complaint is that once a player has obtained prototype skills, there's little reason to equip anything else beyond financial considerations.
There should be incentives to use a wider range of equipment, and not treat Dust's choices as strictly linear. I propose having equipment be inversely related to the probability of obtaining salvage loot. The higher level the equipment, the lower the odds of getting salvage.
For the sake of argument (the numbers are just examples):
Militia gear: 0.4% per piece
Standard gear: 0.3% per piece
Advanced gear: 0.2% per piece
Prototype gear 0.1% per piece
Higher-level dropsuits would also need to have a built-in penalty to prevent someone from filling a prototype logi suit with militia gear, but that is fine-tuning. Alternately, the system could just be related to dropsuit level without being cumulative with equipment.
Either way, the principle of the system would be the higher your gear, the lower your chances of getting salvage after battles. Or looked at the other way, the lower your gear the higher your odds of getting salvage.
Dust already has some of the foundations of its system in its beta design, as can be seen here:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/11/dust-514-war-and-profit/
For those who don't want to deal with the link, here is the relevant text:
Quote:Salvage is your final reward for battles fought. How you currently receive salvage is straightforward: Everyone who participates in a battle receives an equal opportunity to receive items from a single master loot table, regardless of their performance. This system is temporary, and serves as a stepping stone towards final implementation, which should prove far more robust and enjoyable.
Once complete, the full system will allow players to influence the quality and quantity of the salvage they receive. Play in a battle with more players and more destruction, and there will more to salvage, and victory earns you the lionGÇÖs share of the spoils. Equip modules that assist you in finding better salvage, and you will become much more likely to receive higher quality items, such as the rare Officer-tier weapons. Quality and type of salvage will also potentially differ based upon the planet you fight on, with rare gear most likely found on nullsec planets.
The line "Equip modules that assist you in finding better salvage" demonstrates the idea that gear itself can influence the probability of loot. Modules would also effectively lower the overall gear on a suit, replacing a damage mod for a salvage mod, for example. That suit becomes less powerful, but more likely to find salvage.
However, if we simply connect salvage probability to gear level, it also helps newer players catch up to veterans without the need for specialized modules, which would be biased toward veterans if they were skill-based. |
Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:52:00 -
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I can't figure out why you would want to penalize someone from getting loot just because they've been skilled into better equipment. You're taking the reward away from the reward.
Your argument, in my opinion, should be placed on the rarity of the salvage overall. That, in general, prototype gear will be much rarer to be looted (overall) and militia gear will be much less rare. So that if a team is playing with all prototype gear, then the opposite team will pick up less of it. And if a team is playing in all militia gear than the opposite team will pick up much more of those drops. At least this would make sense with your argument.
Though I think this is sad, I want to loot good stuff, so I vote for it to be the opposite. If prototype suits are lost in battle they should be better quality and much more likely to be salvaged over militia variants which are way more flimsy and less likely to be salvageable. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1276
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:57:00 -
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The last thing I got from salvage was 3 Cala's and that was over a month ago :( |
Cere Harkens
Cerulean Systems
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:09:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:I can't figure out why you would want to penalize someone from getting loot just because they've been skilled into better equipment. You're taking the reward away from the reward.
I think of it more as giving a bonus to those with lower gear than penalizing those with higher gear. There should always be a minimum probability of getting salvage, and that can stay the same as it is now.
What I'm suggesting is making gear more of a choice. As it is now, there's little reason to use anything else besides prototype once a player is skilled into it.
I think its safe to say that everyone wants to loot good stuff. It's also safe to say that most players like to use gear to gain a battlefield advantage. What I'm proposing is making it a matter of choice. A player can choose to protostomp and still have a chance at salvage, or he can take it down a notch and increase his chance of salvage.
Create a system that rewards players' choices. Prototype rewards with power. Lower gear rewards with more salvage. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
776
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:17:00 -
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What I dont get is why people enjoy proto stomping. Do they enjoy easy mode gameplay? Do they enjoy the thrill of one sided bland gameplay. Do they care so much about their K/D.
I enjoy competition, thats why I'm still using MLT over my proto gear. I can understand whipping out proto to have an exhilarating firefight against other protos, whip out proto against newberries and what do you get? A dead game with little new player growth.
Regarding OP, they dont proto stomp for officer gear. |
Cere Harkens
Cerulean Systems
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:36:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:
Regarding OP, they don't proto stomp for officer gear.
I know. It would would be nice to reward other approaches to the game too, though. The protostomper gets his satisfaction from dominating others. The lower-level guy can get satisfaction from his shiny new officer's weapon. Both are happy and satisfied, just for different reasons.
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