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Stan Dan
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:11:00 -
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So what do you all think? Is the Assault scram better then the AR? Im curious to see what everyone thinks.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1275
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:13:00 -
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At a range, SR....actually no.....ar is OP 
On a serious note, scrambler works wonders at a distance, especially if u can get a charged shot on target |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1099
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:14:00 -
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Stan Dan wrote:So what do you all think? Is the Assault scram better then the AR? Im curious to see what everyone thinks.
If you get the hang of it and don't run into galente scum then yeah especially with the range changes coming |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:14:00 -
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Yeah definitely assault scrambler rifle when the range nerf comes along for ARs |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1099
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:15:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:At a range, SR....actually no.....ar is OP On a serious note, scrambler works wonders at a distance, especially if u can get a charged shot on target
Assault scrambler don't charge they're fully auto |
Stan Dan
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:16:00 -
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yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:22:00 -
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Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out
The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:24:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:At a range, SR....actually no.....ar is OP On a serious note, scrambler works wonders at a distance, especially if u can get a charged shot on target Assault scrambler don't charge they're fully auto
I am aware, I thought he was talking about imperial vs duvolle, not carthum vs duvolle |
Stan Dan
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:26:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun
Damn I though the rail was gonna be more like the old tac ar. guess I need to read the dev posts more often. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1099
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:26:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:At a range, SR....actually no.....ar is OP On a serious note, scrambler works wonders at a distance, especially if u can get a charged shot on target Assault scrambler don't charge they're fully auto I am aware, I thought he was talking about imperial vs duvolle, not carthum vs duvolle
Wanted to make sure he knew he couldn't charge the assault version I thought that at first |
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Stan Dan
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:29:00 -
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Nope I have played all the scrams and ars I'm just not spec into the scrams. Might do it if the AR nerf is to harsh. It usually is with ccp. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:33:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun
So what? Do you want the RR to have the highest range and DPS and be easy to use? Sounds like you just want an OP weapon. The RRs drawbacks need to be pretty big to balance a weapon that looks that good on paper. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:36:00 -
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Both should be nerfed since the Hit detection patch.
I mean only their Full-auto version. |
Hunter Junko
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:45:00 -
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i love my AScR, i almost hit proto but im sticking with advanced. many fond memories arose from that weapon.
Ok, so about that Combat Rifle :]
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
1099
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:52:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun So what? Do you want the RR to have the highest range and DPS and be easy to use? Sounds like you just want an OP weapon. The RRs drawbacks need to be pretty big to balance a weapon that looks that good on paper.
Oh but the ar didn't need any lmfao I'm just saying if the recoil is to much it will be impssoble to use...considering you have to charge before shooting |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:52:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:At a range, SR....actually no.....ar is OP On a serious note, scrambler works wonders at a distance, especially if u can get a charged shot on target Assault scrambler don't charge they're fully auto I am aware, I thought he was talking about imperial vs duvolle, not carthum vs duvolle Wanted to make sure he knew he couldn't charge the assault version I thought that at first
Ah, touch+¬ :p |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
629
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:55:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun So what? Do you want the RR to have the highest range and DPS and be easy to use? Sounds like you just want an OP weapon. The RRs drawbacks need to be pretty big to balance a weapon that looks that good on paper. Oh but the ar didn't need any lmfao I'm just saying if the recoil is to much it will be impssoble to use...considering you have to charge before shooting
The AR also has half the range and less DPS. If you think the AR is OP, want you are suggesting would be even worse. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6662
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:57:00 -
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If you could see where you're shooting I'd say the SCR has a slight advantage. But the AR has virtually no kick anymore since the hotfixes to compensate for aiming issues, it's easier to fit, and has ridiculous accuracy outside its optimal range. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
193
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:57:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun
CCP Logibro wrote:The Rail Rifle in my experience has a fair bit of kick to it. I'll talk to CCP Wolfman and see if we can get some footage of all four rifles firing a full clip without any input correction (player moving the trigger to keep it on target).
Fair bit of kick (as I read this) is moderate recoil like the assault scrambler though I might be mistaken and the RR kicks like a mule...
Also "some devs" is just one dev (CCP Logibro) in truth :P |
Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:13:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun CCP Logibro wrote:The Rail Rifle in my experience has a fair bit of kick to it. I'll talk to CCP Wolfman and see if we can get some footage of all four rifles firing a full clip without any input correction (player moving the trigger to keep it on target). Fair bit of kick (as I read this) is moderate recoil like the assault scrambler though I might be mistaken and the RR kicks like a mule... Also "some devs" is just one dev (CCP Logibro) in truth :P
Shhhhss your killing my troll |
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Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:13:00 -
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The Imperial is better than the Duvolle if you have the skill to charge it before you shoot, and have the ability to flank, shoot, get behind cover quickly, and head shot your targets quickly. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3293
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:14:00 -
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The normal scrambler rifles are way better than the assault rifles given a little distance. The assault scramblers however not so much. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
195
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Posted - 2013.10.27 18:20:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:
Shhhhss your killing my troll
Oh damn sorry dude :/ |
Meeko Fent
expert intervention
Caldari State
1318
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:50:00 -
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Stan Dan wrote:Nope I have played all the scrams and ars I'm just not spec into the scrams. Might do it if the AR nerf is to harsh. It usually is with ccp.
Nope.
Only difference between this AR and the new one is that the new AR has a fair bit shorter window of falloff. |
Meeko Fent
expert intervention
Caldari State
1318
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:56:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Stan Dan wrote:yeah I left them out because I think they will be more of a competitor with the new rail rifle when it comes out The rail won't be that great unless they fix it...rof sucks you have to charge before shooting and according to some devs its hard to control it...the recoil is bad which is never good for a low rof gun So what? Do you want the RR to have the highest range and DPS and be easy to use? Sounds like you just want an OP weapon. The RRs drawbacks need to be pretty big to balance a weapon that looks that good on paper. Oh but the ar didn't need any lmfao I'm just saying if the recoil is to much it will be impssoble to use...considering you have to charge before shooting The AR also has half the range and less DPS. If you think the AR is OP, want you are suggesting would be even worse.
Well, I don't know.
I think that its damage per shot needs to toned down(By like 2-3 points) so it's not TOO good. But, we have heard word of high recoil accompanying the RR
And, due to its high damage and low ROF nature, missing 1 or 2 shots can be detrimental to the applied DPS.
But again, it has yet to be seen |
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