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Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 667	Posted - 2013.10.27 06:46:00 - [1] - Quote It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 623	Posted - 2013.10.27 06:56:00 - [2] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore. They are getting an ammo restriction. That is something.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 667	Posted - 2013.10.27 07:05:00 - [3] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore. They are getting an ammo restriction. That is something. And that too. Helps even better. Now if they'd do these other changes they wouldn't have to worry about trying to make tanks "temporarily powerful" and just make them not too good against infantry unless you get someone to man the small turret. Of course the small turret really isn't a concern if you are at a distance with a swarm/FG. Only grenadiers would have to worry.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3663	Posted - 2013.10.27 07:06:00 - [4] - Quote I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 667	Posted - 2013.10.27 07:11:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. Honestly I'm wondering why thr tanks don't look like Eldar tanks. Why are we still using tracks in a sci-fi world like this? Come on CCP GÇö hover tanks!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3663	Posted - 2013.10.27 07:20:00 - [6] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. Honestly I'm wondering why thr tanks don't look like Eldar tanks. Why are we still using tracks in a sci-fi world like this? Come on CCP GÇö hover tanks! I don't believe Grav tanks are efficient and easily producible especially for the limited amount of 1.2 Million ISK. Though admittedly you can buy a destroyer class vessel in eve for that amount. I would love for the Heavy Laser Turret to be a mech warrior style heavy laser.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1131	Posted - 2013.10.27 07:29:00 - [7] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also and you could even have the small turret take up a module slot rather than it's own slot. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore. Do you even tank?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3663	Posted - 2013.10.27 07:37:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also and you could even have the small turret take up a module slot rather than it's own slot. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore. Do you even tank? Admittedly I also think the Large Blaster Turret is over kill. I wouldn't mind seeing faster firing main battle cannon turrets with the capacity to switch to more accurate and damaging small turrets, almost like having a 100mm Shell and .50 Cal combo.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 865	Posted - 2013.10.27 08:10:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. I want a punisher cannon for my Minmatar tank <3
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1572	Posted - 2013.10.27 08:14:00 - [10] - Quote The prices on those turrets are worth more than the number of prototype AV suits you'd need to bring out to kill them though. Just saying. This is in response to those who don't believe swarms needed a nerf, too. My 800k dropship won't survive three players with 150k AV suits. Hell, if I position myself badly 1 of those AV suits will be enough to take me down. And by 'position myself badly' I mean trying to do something more useful for the team than hiding behind my redline.

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1024	Posted - 2013.10.27 08:21:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. 2500 point IG army here, I wonder how much dust has collected on it, pun intended.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3665	Posted - 2013.10.27 09:12:00 - [12] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. 2500 point IG army here, I wonder how much dust has collected on it, pun intended. I preferred Sisters of Battle. Something about beautiful, raving, heavily armed women with chainsaws just appealed to me.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1025	Posted - 2013.10.27 09:33:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. 2500 point IG army here, I wonder how much dust has collected on it, pun intended. I preferred Sisters of Battle. Something about beautiful, raving, heavily armed women with chainsaws just appealed to me. I never got the limited edition white dwarf with their codex in otherwise I'd have them and agreed.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 59	Posted - 2013.10.27 09:35:00 - [14] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. Honestly I'm wondering why thr tanks don't look like Eldar tanks. Why are we still using tracks in a sci-fi world like this? Come on CCP GÇö hover tanks! i personally prefer treads. as they are not vunrable to things like em blasts that could potentially disable a hover system. plus the treads allow us to run over infantry and have quite good terrain navigation compared to the lav's
Rei Shepard Spectre II 750	Posted - 2013.10.27 09:52:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: True Adamance wrote: I would rather have a main battle cannon like a Leman Russ, or the BF3 Tanks. Rails are cool, but track far too slowly for my tastes. Honestly I'm wondering why thr tanks don't look like Eldar tanks. Why are we still using tracks in a sci-fi world like this? Come on CCP GÇö hover tanks! I don't believe Grav tanks are efficient and easily producible especially for the limited amount of 1.2 Million ISK. Though admittedly you can buy a destroyer class vessel in eve for that amount. I would love for the Heavy Laser Turret to be a mech warrior style heavy laser. The power requirements for a Grav unit would far outweigh the benefits of simple threads, though having said that MTacs if they are coming from a purely war point aspect are futile with their millions of moving parts to reproduce. But for tanks, the usual of keeping it simple works better then making the tank float wich has no real tactical value except for OOOHH thats soo cool a floating "skateboard" errr i mean "Tank"
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 670	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:37:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also and you could even have the small turret take up a module slot rather than it's own slot. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore. Do you even tank? Yes,mI tank and mention it often on the forums too. Therefore, this makes perfect sense.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1291	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:53:00 - [17] - Quote I'm assuming you are a supporter of Caldari then? No, I refuse.
Uravm0d groundforce Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:15:00 - [18] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also and you could even have the small turret take up a module slot rather than it's own slot. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore. So in other words make tanks a viable way to take a leisurely drive around the map to soak up the scenery, contributing nothing to the match, I think not.
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 949	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:40:00 - [19] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: It's the turret. More specifically, it's the blaster turret that makes people complain about tanks. A tank with no large turret is not a threat. Make tanks stronger. Make turrets more skill intensive and make the blaster large turret have slower tracking and lower RoF. A machine gun that big? Come on! The large blaster doesn't need to have a RoF similar to a 50 cal. (Size of a small turret). As for small turrets; with the changes ppl won't have to mount them and probably won't. But, the small turret slots could be reduced to one and the small turret skills not apply. Reduce their tracking also and you could even have the small turret take up a module slot rather than it's own slot. There, problem solved. Tankers get to enjoy tanks. Infantry really doesn't need to worry about them dominating anymore. Have you ever shot the large blaster turrets, I've had people out-strafe its current tracing speed, victims are stood still(shooting an AR at me llloooololololol). It's Rof and damage are fine, it over heats as one downside, soon to have ammo consumption, we should be looking to down the rof on swarmers before ever worrying about tanks. The problem people have with tanks, is standing due to their own positioning and mentality around them. like the swarmers who are stood 25m away, at ground level!! Of course i'm gunna ION blaster your face through stood there.


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