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Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1094	Posted - 2013.10.27 14:28:00 - [31] - Quote Resistance modules are the answer. Not nerfing the universe. (How many grenades should someone be able to withstand?)
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4294	Posted - 2013.10.27 14:34:00 - [32] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Resistance modules are the answer. Not nerfing the universe. (How many grenades should someone be able to withstand?) It's not just the raw power of the grenade. It's that you can carry three of them. And then restock them from nanohives.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 923	Posted - 2013.10.27 14:36:00 - [33] - Quote That is exactly what I would do if I saw anyone that is/was in TeamPlayers on the other team. Drop a Hive or two and spam grenades!
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 923	Posted - 2013.10.27 14:37:00 - [34] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Resistance modules are the answer. Not nerfing the universe. (How many grenades should someone be able to withstand?) Zero.
General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3931	Posted - 2013.10.27 14:38:00 - [35] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Slap my @$$ and call me a hypocrite please don't.
Orion Sanjeet SyNergy Gaming EoN. 11	Posted - 2013.10.27 14:56:00 - [36] - Quote Not to be that guy however, grenades are not God. It is a case of changing how you react, for example if a person is in front of you and you hear a grenade land right around you then start sprinting forward and most of the time it won't blow anywhere near you because you are now traveling in the opposite direction the grenade is traveling. You also have to account for the occasional talented grenade chef and people just getting the jump on you. Almost anything can be overcome by evolving yourself.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1095	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:08:00 - [37] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Resistance modules are the answer. Not nerfing the universe. (How many grenades should someone be able to withstand?) It's not just the raw power of the grenade. It's that you can carry three of them. And then restock them from nanohives. I think 3 is a reasonable number. I have long disagreed with Nanohives restocking grenades. But, if you can make it to one of the few Supply Depots, then yes, everything should be restocked - including Nanos.
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 130	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:20:00 - [38] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I'd also like to add that the only non-BPO item on my BPO suit is a core locus grenade. I used to do this. It's kind of hilarious to use. Proto assault charging around the corner expecting easy kill? Boom, instakill him. thats what happens to me when i face 13ear in a pub match
Zatara Rought MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1418	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:26:00 - [39] - Quote Orion Sanjeet wrote: Not to be that guy however, grenades are not God. It is a case of changing how you react, for example if a person is in front of you and you hear a grenade land right around you then start sprinting forward and most of the time it won't blow anywhere near you because you are now traveling in the opposite direction the grenade is traveling. You also have to account for the occasional talented grenade chef and people just getting the jump on you. Almost anything can be overcome by evolving yourself. As one of the best grenadiers in the game...you're preaching to the choir. Any halfway decent grenadier knows to cook it so it explodes as it arrives. Indicators are insufficient compared to chrome, or more people improved at their culinary prowess. Either way...700+ damage from one grenade of three?? That you can then continue relentishing? Discuss.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1158	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:31:00 - [40] - Quote I just posted in the bugs forum... A core locus grenade dealt 990 damage to me. Killed me in one shot from 850 ehp. I have a 250 shield buffer and 600 armor. Cores say they only do 600 damage. My shield buffer should have resisted about 300 damage, and then the other 300 would be turned into 360...and I would be left with about half armor left. Nope. I just died. This same guy killed me probably 7 times that match just running around spamming grenades everywhere.

Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 932	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:34:00 - [41] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I just posted in the bugs forum... A core locus grenade dealt 990 damage to me. Killed me in one shot from 850 ehp. I have a 250 shield buffer and 600 armor. Cores say they only do 600 damage. My shield buffer should have resisted about 300 damage, and then the other 300 would be turned into 360...and I would be left with about half armor left. Nope. I just died. This same guy killed me probably 7 times that match just running around spamming grenades everywhere. I have noticed something similar to this. It seems that grenades do more damage when thrown than they say they do in their stats. I have tested this on myself. If I just continuously hold a grenade in my hand until it explodes (as a heavy), I will not die. However, throwing it and standing on top of it kills me immediately. Is there some sort of hidden stat and/or function that increases grenade damage based on where the grenade explodes?
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 824	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:25:00 - [42] - Quote What about officer grenades (aka. Core nades)?
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1099	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:29:00 - [43] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: What about officer grenades (aka. Core nades)? Honestly all nades in pc are op...you can spam them...cook them then 1 hit any suit instantly and that kinda sucks...especially since you have an infinite amount because of nanos and supply depots
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division 170	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:35:00 - [44] - Quote Ayures II wrote: Protip: You can see grenades on the ground. Run away from them. Yeah, if you hold L2 till that click noise then let go, they explode at perfect distances. Not to mention people hide behind walls and cook a core nade then toss it around the corner, so no you can't see them. Also there is no nade warning for nades right behind you, under you,or above.
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1099	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:45:00 - [45] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Ayures II wrote: Protip: You can see grenades on the ground. Run away from them. Yeah, if you hold L2 till that click noise then let go, they explode at perfect distances. Not to mention people hide behind walls and cook a core nade then toss it around the corner, so no you can't see them. Also there is no nade warning for nades right behind you, under you,or above. You can't always see them
Green Living 0uter.Heaven 927	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:48:00 - [46] - Quote Active Scanner + Cooked Core Locus = Profit
Thor McStrut Reckoners 296	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:06:00 - [47] - Quote 33 meters? My throws go about half that. Not to mention the damage. Something's broken or we don't have all the relevant info from CCP.
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1099	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:12:00 - [48] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: 33 meters? My throws go about half that. Not to mention the damage. Something's broken or we don't have all the relevant info from CCP. You I've died to 1 from 23 so I wouldn't be surprised...but its the throwing distance not blast radius
Knight Soiaire P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S A.C.R.O.N.Y.M 2792	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:15:00 - [49] - Quote My grenades are ****** up lately. I cook them so they explode directly under the enemie's feet, and they take no damage and kill me. Maybe its just karma.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 290	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:33:00 - [50] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: My grenades are ****** up lately. I cook them so they explode directly under the enemie's feet, and they take no damage and kill me. Maybe its just karma. All explosive weapons hit invisible barriers and quit dealing any damage. More than likely they established two different blast detection radii to improve damage chance, but it did something wonky to the numbers. Apparently they have not figured out how to allow blasts through the ground but not through walls... Or something like that.

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4285	Posted - 2013.10.27 18:41:00 - [51] - Quote G Torq wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: There's no counter to offset the bonus to armor so how in the hell is this balanced? Yeah, it is effing annoying we cant have something like a Shield, with some kind of resistance to explosives! sigh Don't know what you're implying. I guess you're saying I don't know how to play this game and have no idea what shields are for. I guess I can forgive your ignorance, but I will not. Stupid thinking like this is why this game is where it's at today. People not knowing their arse from their elbow. "Oh my, no resistance, I wonder why shields are there." In your mind you think shields = resistance? Really?!! SMFH
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4285	Posted - 2013.10.27 18:44:00 - [52] - Quote Orion Sanjeet wrote: Not to be that guy however, grenades are not God. It is a case of changing how you react, for example if a person is in front of you and you hear a grenade land right around you then start sprinting forward and most of the time it won't blow anywhere near you because you are now traveling in the opposite direction the grenade is traveling. You also have to account for the occasional talented grenade chef and people just getting the jump on you. Almost anything can be overcome by evolving yourself. I guess heavies are suppose to evolve wings then, because as far as I know, there's no way for fat suits to dodge nades. This plus the fact there's no resistance to explosive weapons makes this a joke in itself. CCP: "heavies are point defense! we're going to slow you down, give you a crappy cqc weapon, but we're not going to give you resistance to explosive spam. Have fun!"
Sprog Intaki Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.10.27 18:47:00 - [53] - Quote 700 damage grenade, wtf. I haven't played in months, but 700 damage would put an amarr heavy suit to hull.
Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 387	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:05:00 - [54] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Ah. Why did you make 2 separate hyperlinks then? They both led to the same picture. I think you're trolling me. Regardless I have tried them and they both show different pics. Maybe its just because I'm on a mobile device, but they both showed the same thing for me. try this: Picture 1: http://i.imgur.com/PDlMY8W.jpg?1 Picture 2: http://i.imgur.com/6xbfjze.jpg?2
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 334	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:23:00 - [55] - Quote You can always tell when grenades are much to powerful in a game, everybody leads with them.
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 511	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:24:00 - [56] - Quote I refuse to spend a single SP into Grenades when my Militia BPO can do the job about as well. Plus, with only two, I have learned to be quite a decent chef. Start cooking while sprinting at someone in my Scout suit, toss it ahead to weaken them enough to finish off.
Orca Amsel Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 542	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:56:00 - [57] - Quote Grenades don't need to be nerfed.
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 513	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:30:00 - [58] - Quote Orca Amsel wrote: Grenades don't need to be nerfed. Doesn't that display the total damage dealt? As in, you could deal 600 to a suit with 601 eHP, then finish them with a grenade and have it display 600+Damage From Grenade?
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1803	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:47:00 - [59] - Quote Whistle Tick ... Tick ... Tick ... Toss ... Boom Clock and Compare. How much damage can an AR deal from Whistle to Boom? Blasted in the back by a Shotgun? Just turn around, backpedal and hipfire. You've got lots of time. Unless I opened with a Nade. Point-blank blue flare from Shotguns and Knives. Because CCP. 2-4 Shotgun blasts to drop a well-fitted Medium. Because CCP. Walk-stalking -- forever -- with Knives that routinely miss. Because CCP. I see you, you don't see me. You should've been dead already, but I've learned my limits. Yes, I could've closed the gap and blasted you in the back. But this isn't Chromosome. A Shotgun in the back isn't enough these days. Because CCP.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 941	Posted - 2013.10.27 23:52:00 - [60] - Quote Orca Amsel wrote: Grenades don't need to be nerfed.



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