True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.27 01:15:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:
You are already an ass hole 24/7 using protogear in pubgames so what difference does it make, you wont change your ways I'm just pointing out that you are a hypocrite
I actually understand your point but you cannot ask for new players to not be allowed to take part in FW on one hand and then continue to use and defend the use of protogear on the other hand
You either get onboard the fix matchmaking train or you stay on the leave it as it is platform you cant segregate new players away from FW for your benefit and not segregate the vets from the new players in pubgames
No he is right mate, they need to stay out if they don't care, they make no difference, cost us the core and dedicated FW players matches, and glean no real benefit from FW when you compare it to Public Matches. I do not want to make FW more exclusive however I do want to make it more demanding and have real consequences.
Fight for Amarr and you wont fight Gallente or Minmatar, fight for one of them and you wont fight for the other two factions. If you TK you get kicked with ever increasing bans on FW play time. Make FW what it was meant to be a play ground for the loyal and money grubbers.
FW IS the step up from Pub matches, all newbie do is feed me kills and from watching them in action, lose us matches.
It is not arrogance it is a truth, they cannot be trusted to hold even the most defensible of locations.
This is also not a mind set reserved for L33t players niche gamers, in NEW EDEN no body with bother with you if you **** around, it is the same here as it is in EVE.
You **** up listening to your FC and you will get chewed out later about it. **** up in matches in Dust you do and will get ridiculed for it. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3658
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Posted - 2013.10.27 02:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:
You are already an ass hole 24/7 using protogear in pubgames so what difference does it make, you wont change your ways I'm just pointing out that you are a hypocrite
I actually understand your point but you cannot ask for new players to not be allowed to take part in FW on one hand and then continue to use and defend the use of protogear on the other hand
You either get onboard the fix matchmaking train or you stay on the leave it as it is platform you cant segregate new players away from FW for your benefit and not segregate the vets from the new players in pubgames
No he is right mate, they need to stay out if they don't care, they make no difference, cost us the core and dedicated FW players matches, and glean no real benefit from FW when you compare it to Public Matches. I do not want to make FW more exclusive however I do want to make it more demanding and have real consequences. Fight for Amarr and you wont fight Gallente or Minmatar, fight for one of them and you wont fight for the other two factions. If you TK you get kicked with ever increasing bans on FW play time. Make FW what it was meant to be a play ground for the loyal and money grubbers. FW IS the step up from Pub matches, all newbie do is feed me kills and from watching them in action, lose us matches. It is not arrogance it is a truth, they cannot be trusted to hold even the most defensible of locations. This is also not a mind set reserved for L33t players niche gamers, in NEW EDEN no body with bother with you if you **** around, it is the same here as it is in EVE. You **** up listening to your FC and you will get chewed out later about it. **** up in matches in Dust you do and will get ridiculed for it. Oh how I've feared the day where I'd find myself in agreement with a Praetorian. I now fear for my mental health. But Adamance is correct, new players shouldn't be allowed in FW. They are a complete liability, and detrimental to the efforts of the Republic, Federation, State, and Empire. In layman's terms: n00bs in FW cause us to lose matches and they are a big FU to corps like Turlayon, Gradient, and PIE.
I think I am explaining this poorly.
IN EVE FW is a legitimate way to spend your time, ISK, etc and some corps more so than others focus on it and make their goals to support that factions however they can. PIE is one of them, and have been doing it for 10 yrs. Now that's a ******* long time to be doing anything, especially playing a game.
Now in Dust FW is not a legitimate career if you will, not yet, and wont be for some time. But I enjoy spending my time and ISK fighting in it anyway. Is it wrong that a less skilled players, and by no means am I trying to proclaim my amazing skills and massive E-peen, is ruining, directly, my enjoyment of the game I choose to play by not taking this as seriously as me especially when we have game modes that do not impact upon the empires, or New Eden?
No its not, they don't mean to, they just are. Nor is right to say because someone feels this way they are some elitist prick, which of course they are not, especially in the Op's case since I have had the opportunity to squad with him before .
As Atiim said, and mate I too am ******* worried for the safety of the universe as we know it, it is a big FU to corps who are putting a massive amount of effort.
However yes, CCP needs to take responsibility for poor match making and low academy time.... but even should that be the case If they walk into an FW match and **** around, they should not expect any respect, or acknowledgment from me. FW is really not a place for solo players. Its doable sure, but it is corps that do and should rule the FW world, and jeopardising the efforts of these corps through inaction is as bad as saying "Man all of you are elitist pricks".
Back to my point. Soloists and new players unfortunately ruin more oft than not my enjoyment of this game. Not because they are doing anything specifically wrong but because they are contributing in a meaningful way to something I care about, when they most apparently do not.
Which provokes this response and me saying "If you don't care why are you here?". Short answer is they don't have a reason, they don't care who wins, they want to feel like they are a part of something.... and sadly they are but not in a positive manner like they would like to think.
In B4 "you absolute tool, everyone is entitled to play the way they way" (to which I respond well don't expect me to care) and "Dust is Dead".... etc. |