A solution to this would be to connect this game to Eve and make it worth their while to pay us to do things. Oh and add PvE.

There are lots of ways to make ISK in dust they are just not very conventional and some are very closely guarded trade secrets of the 1%.

Just need to think outside the box to make your ISK...


Or buy Aurum

So what your saying is that you have run Proto so long you are unable to run suits and weapons below proto or you get steamrolled? dosent that kinda seam wrong to you? How about you get good with advanced gear, then when you can aford Proto you will apreciate its abilitys more and have more skills.

I've been thinking about why this game is so frustrating. I think the reason is because there are no other means of making ISK. I was able to dampen out the pain of losing a protosuit previously when I was around 300 million ISK. But over the last 4-5 months since Uprising first released I've gone down to nothing. Working hard to stay around 5-10 million ISK (on a good week).

Most people are saying, "Pub matches are not supposed to support protosuits". Okay that's fine. Then I have to play PC to get that extra ISK. PC pays out great ISK. 1-3million per match. The problem with this is it only pays out to the winners. So the losing team who just played in full proto gear and lost 3-5million ISK makes absolutely no profit on the match. They even fronted the bill for the attack of 36 million ISK. Now they are out for their suit losses, and they are out in their corp tax money for the battle.

What happens when the same group of players keeps winning and everyone else keeps losing? Sure this can happen, and it does in EVE. But at least in EVE I can do something else, anything else, to make my money to continue playing the way I want to. I can't do that in DUST and I think this is one huge source of frustration. I have to grind in cheap gear so that every match, whether it be losing or winning, can generate some small percentage of a profit.

I admit, I'm not the best killer, or a slayer like most of you veteran FPS players so this is even more taxing on me and most players like me. When we hit rock bottom in ISK reserves, we can't play the way we want to with our good gear to even the playing field. We constantly get overrun and easily killed because we can't match up with those we are playing against because we can't afford it. Thus it loses all it's fun and enjoyment. The competitive aspect of the game is lost.

Scam people. Its easy to do. One way to do it would be to create multiple alts and pretend to be a newbie and beg in local. People send you ISK and you funnel it directly to your main. You can make multiple millions a day if you are a good actor.

A solution to this would be to connect this game to Eve and make it worth their while to pay us to do things. Oh and add PvE.

This goes back to what I've been saying for a while. There is no incentive to win. Regardless of the suit you want to field.

Although this is an FPS, you shouldn't try to win. Just run cheap gear and play passively. Don't try to cap objectives just hover at the edges and try to pick up cheap kills. If this doesn't work, redline snipe with a tank or a rifle.

I highly doubt it will be any fun, but at least you'll have stacks of ISK. If everyone does it there will be absolutely zero combat. So everyone will profit. I'm sure this will be great for the game.

OR we could incentivize winning and performance not mere participation.

What I'm saying is that when I run my advanced gear, yes it's better, but it cost about 50k per suit. So if I'm only getting 150-250k isk per match, and let's be honest, the average is really on the lower part of 200k isk per match, then I am allowed 2 deaths in my suit before I lose 50% of the profit. So I can die twice and then I make 100k ISK. How many games do I need to play to make 1 million ISK? 10 matches. Then from those 2 hours of playing, I can run 4 proto suits before I go back to zero again.

Do you see the problem now? If not I can alleviate your lack of intellect, as demonstrated by your illogical argument and your misspellings, and lack of eyesight to use autocorrect, a feature which is so useful to even the daftest of people.

I run the cheapest set of gear to make the most profit. So instead of spending 50k on a loss, I spend only 13k on a loss, thus increasing the amount I make in a match. Dying 2-4 times in a match means I can still make a better part of that ISK meaning I can run my better gear sooner, and longer.