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XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:44:00 -
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Orvolle GÇô The Scope has obtained and released a portion of the Senate report on Operation Highlander. According to the dossier, the Federation has had operatives infiltrating the Caldari State since the outbreak of the Empyrean War in YC110. This includes numerous operatives engaged in long-term, deep-cover operations within all eight Caldari megacorporations.
The released information claims several high-level megacorp executives had been compromised by intelligence operatives, contributing to the destabilization of the Heth regime prior to the attack on Caldari Prime. The names of the executives are absent from the document, but it claims none are still considered active assets for the Federation following the downfall of Heth. It does refer to several GÇ£less valuable assetsGÇ¥ that remain within the megacorps, Caldari Navy, and State Protectorate.
Citing whistleblower and freedom of information laws in its decision to release the information, the Scope has claimed the release of the document is legal. Despite this, Black Eagles operatives were seen raiding several of the ScopeGÇÖs offices throughout the Federation. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
403
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:46:00 -
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Woops, sounds like the Federation really didn't want that to get out. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2293
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:07:00 -
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Well no crap. The fact that the Federation has deeply perforated the Caldari State's intelligence bubble, and severely compromised high level positions, is rather common knowledge. The only people that will be surprised by this are hard line Gallante skeptics and those who underestimated the power of the Gallante Empire.
I'll give credence when it is due. The Caldari State was the hardest of the other three Empires to infect with agents. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
403
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:14:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Well no crap. The fact that the Federation has deeply perforated the Caldari State's intelligence bubble, and severely compromised high level positions, is rather common knowledge. The only people that will be surprised by this are hard line Gallante skeptics and those who underestimated the power of the Gallante Empire.
I'll give credence when it is due. The Caldari State was the hardest of the other three Empires to infect with agents.
I was more concerned with the Black Eagles response than the act of espionage itself. So much for your "freedom of information" laws. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
530
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:29:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Yeah, regardless of the fact that I am not actually a member of the Black Eagles or Federal Inteliigence Office, or a sane Gallentean, I'll just admit to everyone that we pride ourselves over the fact that we breach our very own laws and ideals for the sake of "protection" by spying everyone.
This is what I see. |
steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
1630
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:24:00 -
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U have some impressive double standards their.
Also somthing big is coming these updates have been coming fast recently |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
338
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Posted - 2013.10.25 15:46:00 -
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Federal agents having infiltrated high-level positions is nothing new, but it is something nettlesome. Of course, unless such infiltrations reach a critical level it's unlikely that they'd be able to cause as much trouble as the long-term pre-war Gallentean cultural manipulation that led to a bad case of individualism and entitlement among the Caldari corporate elite did.
In any case, it seems we have a little housecleaning to do (again). |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
4211
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Posted - 2013.10.25 17:30:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Well no crap. The fact that the Federation has deeply perforated the Caldari State's intelligence bubble, and severely compromised high level positions, is rather common knowledge. The only people that will be surprised by this are hard line Gallante skeptics and those who underestimated the power of the Gallante Empire.
I'll give credence when it is due. The Caldari State was the hardest of the other three Empires to infect with agents.
'Gallante Empire'. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3636
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:13:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Gallante Empire.
Every time you open your mouth I just hear
"I wannabe Amarr"
or
"Imperial Dreams...." |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
4213
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Gallante Empire. Every time you open your mouth I just hear "I wannabe Amarr" or "Imperial Dreams...."
I suspect your hatred of the Gallente is somewhat coloured by this fool. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3636
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Posted - 2013.10.25 20:17:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Gallante Empire. Every time you open your mouth I just hear "I wannabe Amarr" or "Imperial Dreams...." I suspect your hatred of the Gallente is somewhat coloured by this fool.
It somewhat is. Having met some more reasonable Gallenteans I realised I don't hate them as a people. I just hate this guy. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2293
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Posted - 2013.10.25 21:53:00 -
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You all have to admit, Empire sounds way cooler than Federation. Plus, we all refer to each other's territories and bureaucracies as Empires. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
4216
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:11:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You all have to admit, Empire sounds way cooler than Federation. Plus, we all refer to each other's territories and bureaucracies as Empires.
And yet it betrays everything we stand for. We are a Federation, not an Empire. Others may blather on about our shortcomings - but we have our ideals. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2293
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:11:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Yeah, regardless of the fact that I am not actually a member of the Black Eagles or Federal Inteliigence Office, or a sane Gallentean, I'll just admit to everyone that we pride ourselves over the fact that we breach our very own laws and ideals for the sake of "protection" by spying everyone. This is what I see.
So you admit it. You are blinded by your views. The hardest part, is admitting you have a problem. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2293
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You all have to admit, Empire sounds way cooler than Federation. Plus, we all refer to each other's territories and bureaucracies as Empires. And yet it betrays everything we stand for. We are a Federation, not an Empire. Others may blather on about our shortcomings - but we have our ideals.
All has a beginning and an end, a Ying and a Yang, sight must witness itself and force repels its intentions.
All have their ideals. Opinions, all of them.
The thing that sets the Gallante apart is that we provide a cohesive environment where all points may be argued in a respectful manner. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
4221
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Posted - 2013.10.25 23:23:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:You all have to admit, Empire sounds way cooler than Federation. Plus, we all refer to each other's territories and bureaucracies as Empires. And yet it betrays everything we stand for. We are a Federation, not an Empire. Others may blather on about our shortcomings - but we have our ideals. All has a beginning and an end, a Ying and a Yang, sight must witness itself and force repels its intentions. All have their ideals. Opinions, all of them. The thing that sets the Gallante apart is that we provide a cohesive environment where all points may be argued in a respectful manner.
I find that claim dubious in the extreme given the tendency of individuals to bash mindlessly on certain other Empires, States, and Republics. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2294
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Posted - 2013.10.26 02:56:00 -
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I never said we would agree. I was trying to personify that one could speak their stance without being punished by the bureaucry. It's the reason the Federation is always seen as the rowdiest of the four entities, it is not genetic, it is simply that people are allowed to express themselves fairly. These beliefs, which are now part of law, protect all impartially.
Just like they protect a quiet Intaki group of meditating Intaki, it also protects the loud and ignorant right extremist Gallante who scream and chant in the streets (as long as it posses no harm and breaks no laws, permits may be needed). |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
531
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Posted - 2013.10.26 03:31:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So you admit it. You are blinded by your views. The hardest part, is admitting you have a problem.
Says the person who claimed to have been working for the Black Eagles but with no proof to back it up, support the Federation like it's the only true power in the cluster and should rule everyone and abandon their own ideals in the process, and worst of all, openly attacked and insulted my group because it had a "suspicious name".
You have lost all credibility, and I stopped taking anything you say seriously a long time ago. |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
323
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Posted - 2013.10.26 04:23:00 -
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I usually keep my peace on these matters because my love for the Federation's people is not mirrored on its government and this conflict often leaves me a little confused. Thus I find myself torn about the Black Eagles' response. On one hand it's a breach of the "Freedom of Information" laws but on the other it's a reaction to a security breach that puts at risk espionage operations being performed by the Federation, which in turn can put Federation citizens at risk, a fact I find unacceptable. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2297
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Posted - 2013.10.26 21:06:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So you admit it. You are blinded by your views. The hardest part, is admitting you have a problem. Says the person who claimed to have been working for the Black Eagles but with no proof to back it up, support the Federation like it's the only true power in the cluster and should rule everyone and abandon their own ideals in the process, and worst of all, openly attacked and insulted my group because it had a "suspicious name". You have lost all credibility, and I stopped taking anything you say seriously a long time ago.
Damn, we are like two sides of a single coin. Opposite in our views united by our inverted logic.
You're more Gallante than I give you credit for. |
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