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Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 144	Posted - 2013.10.25 07:24:00 - [1] - Quote Enough said...
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4187	Posted - 2013.10.25 07:38:00 - [2] - Quote Hail Rail Rifle 514. It outdamages the current assault rifle, has twice the range, and has a scope.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 309	Posted - 2013.10.25 07:44:00 - [3] - Quote hello FoTM untill it's nerfed to the ground
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 342	Posted - 2013.10.25 07:48:00 - [4] - Quote LOL tears and it isn't even out yet.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 490	Posted - 2013.10.25 07:57:00 - [5] - Quote Whoooo-ooohh. New weapons. Let's forget about the vehicles being pulled, the failure of a matchmaking, the extremely apparent abuse of lag, the lack of core suits, and the mics messing up. Ask yourself, is it still worth it?
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 145	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:15:00 - [6] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Whoooo-ooohh. New weapons. Let's forget about the vehicles being pulled, the failure of a matchmaking, the extremely apparent abuse of lag, the lack of core suits, and the mics messing up. Ask yourself, is it still worth it? Short answer yes Long answer Vehicles are being slimmed down to allow CCP to take a step back and make them as they should be. Matchmaking... I'll give you that one they should at least balance premade squads evenly. Abuse of lag... the people who do it will get whats coming to them eventually. Lack of core suits... if you payed any attention at all to the Eve Vegas presentation you would know that new suits are coming soon as in December or January. Mics messing up... skype, teamspeak, ventrilo, etc...
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 285	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:17:00 - [7] - Quote The Rail rifle is Full auto?... Given that it states "rail" I'd have thought railgun-esque meaning burst fire or single shots?....
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 743	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:18:00 - [8] - Quote actually the new FOTM will be tanks, lavs and dropships. have you seen the swarm nerf? it will take almost half a minute of continous fire with swarms at max range of 175m against tanks with the announced changes to kill them solo and that is if he does not move into cover... and lavs + dropships are unkillable with that low lock range, they can move out of range really fast. really bad change, considering that swarm can only attack vehicles.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 145	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:20:00 - [9] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: The Rail rifle is Full auto?... Given that it states "rail" I'd have thought railgun-esque meaning burst fire or single shots?.... If you look at its stat it has a .2 sec charge time I think this is going to be per bullet but you'd have to confirm with ccp on that one
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 748	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:20:00 - [10] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: The Rail rifle is Full auto?... Given that it states "rail" I'd have thought railgun-esque meaning burst fire or single shots?.... Single shot weapons are scrambler rifle territory. Caldari are long range automatics and minmatar are burst fire rifles. Gallente will be short range automatics.

Rei Shepard Spectre II 740	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:22:00 - [11] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Whoooo-ooohh. New weapons. Let's forget about the vehicles being pulled, the failure of a matchmaking, the extremely apparent abuse of lag, the lack of core suits, and the mics messing up. Ask yourself, is it still worth it? Short answer yes Long answer Vehicles are being slimmed down to allow CCP to take a step back and make them as they should be. Matchmaking... I'll give you that one they should at least balance premade squads evenly. Abuse of lag... the people who do it will get whats coming to them eventually. Lack of core suits... if you payed any attention at all to the Eve Vegas presentation you would know that new suits are coming soon as in December or January. Mics messing up... skype, teamspeak, ventrilo, etc... How do you Abuse lag ? If am lagging or have FPS issues, i can hardly shoot someone else, if i dont have any lag or FPS issues i can shoot people normally ? How can i abuse that in any way ?
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 145	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:24:00 - [12] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Whoooo-ooohh. New weapons. Let's forget about the vehicles being pulled, the failure of a matchmaking, the extremely apparent abuse of lag, the lack of core suits, and the mics messing up. Ask yourself, is it still worth it? Short answer yes Long answer Vehicles are being slimmed down to allow CCP to take a step back and make them as they should be. Matchmaking... I'll give you that one they should at least balance premade squads evenly. Abuse of lag... the people who do it will get whats coming to them eventually. Lack of core suits... if you payed any attention at all to the Eve Vegas presentation you would know that new suits are coming soon as in December or January. Mics messing up... skype, teamspeak, ventrilo, etc... How do you Abuse lag ? Go to the server region the farthest from you ??? Profit
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 342	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:25:00 - [13] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: The Rail rifle is Full auto?... Given that it states "rail" I'd have thought railgun-esque meaning burst fire or single shots?.... Edit: Meh.. it's range is 65-85 meaning that someone within at 20 or so will probably take less damage like the laser. In the sense that it is like the breach AR. I play with CreoDron Breach ARs every now and then expecting them to be like the RRs and the ROF at full auto isn't that good, it kind of messes with your accuracy on a moving target because you are firing thuk.. thuk.. thuk and the target is not always centered so missing quite a few esp at range.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 740	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:32:00 - [14] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Whoooo-ooohh. New weapons. Let's forget about the vehicles being pulled, the failure of a matchmaking, the extremely apparent abuse of lag, the lack of core suits, and the mics messing up. Ask yourself, is it still worth it? Short answer yes Long answer Vehicles are being slimmed down to allow CCP to take a step back and make them as they should be. Matchmaking... I'll give you that one they should at least balance premade squads evenly. Abuse of lag... the people who do it will get whats coming to them eventually. Lack of core suits... if you payed any attention at all to the Eve Vegas presentation you would know that new suits are coming soon as in December or January. Mics messing up... skype, teamspeak, ventrilo, etc... How do you Abuse lag ? Go to the server region the farthest from you ??? Profit I dont see how putting myself at a 0.2-0.4 second disadvantage before i see them while they see me is going to profit me.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 145	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:40:00 - [15] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Whoooo-ooohh. New weapons. Let's forget about the vehicles being pulled, the failure of a matchmaking, the extremely apparent abuse of lag, the lack of core suits, and the mics messing up. Ask yourself, is it still worth it? Short answer yes Long answer Vehicles are being slimmed down to allow CCP to take a step back and make them as they should be. Matchmaking... I'll give you that one they should at least balance premade squads evenly. Abuse of lag... the people who do it will get whats coming to them eventually. Lack of core suits... if you payed any attention at all to the Eve Vegas presentation you would know that new suits are coming soon as in December or January. Mics messing up... skype, teamspeak, ventrilo, etc... How do you Abuse lag ? Go to the server region the farthest from you ??? Profit I dont see how putting myself at a 0.2-0.4 second disadvantage before i see them while they see me is going to profit me. Look up threads about Nyain San you will get the idea
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1943	Posted - 2013.10.25 08:40:00 - [16] - Quote Goodbye Dust 514, hello another game.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4192	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:00:00 - [17] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: How do you Abuse lag ? Go to the server region the farthest from you ??? Profit I dont see how putting myself at a 0.2-0.4 second disadvantage before i see them while they see me is going to profit me. Let him blame his awful performance on people 'abusing lag', it's kinder that way.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4349	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:00:00 - [18] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Enough said... i dont get the title of this thread OP shouldnt it be more AR514 since 2 more ARs are being added?
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2222	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:10:00 - [19] - Quote The funny thing is the ranges on the AR stay the same New FOTM is going to be tanks though, I guess all their whining and crying paid off so a proto swarm in the future will only be as effective as a standard swarm now IE not doing **** and the reduction in grenade health added to the increase in LAV health might see a resurgence of Dust Cart Way to go guys
Cosgar ParagonX 6463	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:14:00 - [20] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: The funny thing is the ranges on the AR stay the same New FOTM is going to be tanks though, I guess all their whining and crying paid off so a proto swarm in the future will only be as effective as a standard swarm now IE not doing **** and the reduction in grenade health added to the increase in LAV health might see a resurgence of Dust Cart Way to go guys AR's optimal range is cut down to 40m while 3 other weapons easily overlap it. You can try to spin it all you want, but the "I win button" will soon be gone. Also, if you've been paying attention to vehicle changes, you'll realize that AV is being scaled down to what the new tanks are. Still a work in progress, but something that needed to happen.

Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 743	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:20:00 - [21] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Also, if you've been paying attention to vehicle changes, you'll realize that AV is being scaled down to what the new tanks are. Still a work in progress, but something that needed to happen. do the math with the announced swarm nerf vs announced tank changes against an ARMOR tank. without damage mods it will take half a minute of nonstop shooting (which is an unlikely scenario cause it assume a tank in the open not moving and no danger for the swarm user. in reality you will have to hop around, evade fire, take cover etc.. which means it will take alot longer) with 3 dmg mods it will take 23s of nonstop shooting (which again is unrealistic scenario of a still sitting tank in the open field) in short, have fun shooting tanks for half a minute just to see him move out of range or behind an obstacle.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3477	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:21:00 - [22] - Quote You guys are really silly, you know that? Here's a chart I made a while back. http://i.imgur.com/tLm3xq5.png Ranges haven't been changed at all brosef. In fact, most of the ARs have been buffed. Edit: Okay, the Tactical lost some range but the Breach still gained a wallop of range. Point still stands.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 741	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:27:00 - [23] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: How do you Abuse lag ? Go to the server region the farthest from you ??? Profit I dont see how putting myself at a 0.2-0.4 second disadvantage before i see them while they see me is going to profit me. Let him blame his awful performance on people 'abusing lag', it's kinder that way. True, if your not cheating, using cheap tactics, groups of people, its the Lag that gets em killed...
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2222	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:27:00 - [24] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: The funny thing is the ranges on the AR stay the same New FOTM is going to be tanks though, I guess all their whining and crying paid off so a proto swarm in the future will only be as effective as a standard swarm now IE not doing ** and the reduction in grenade health added to the increase in LAV health might see a resurgence of Dust Cart Way to go guys AR's optimal range is cut down to 40m while 3 other weapons easily overlap it. You can try to spin it all you want, but the "I win button" will soon be gone. Also, if you've been paying attention to vehicle changes, you'll realize that AV is being scaled down to what the new tanks are. Still a work in progress, but something that needed to happen. The ARs optimal and effective ranges the same as these new stats are so it really isnt going to change anything, please remember this post after all this stuff gets rolled out and you still get popped from an AR at distance and want to call it an I win button And if YOU have been paying attention youll notice that many vehicles have been given more base health compensating for the loss of a slot or two which combined with the damage reduction to AV means they get to sit around effectively untouchable once again, I foresee a lot of squads having one member calling in a tank while the others cluster around him reducing the change of the enemy even getting off one of the new ** weak swarms since the range is cut by more than half now Its really just another case of CCP taking the nerfing to far as usual, one or the other would have been fine but both at once destroys the weapons usability and I have a bad feeling something similar is going to happen to the forge gun I guess all the guys that wanted a world of tanks shooting gallery got it
Cosgar ParagonX 6463	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:38:00 - [25] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: The funny thing is the ranges on the AR stay the same New FOTM is going to be tanks though, I guess all their whining and crying paid off so a proto swarm in the future will only be as effective as a standard swarm now IE not doing ** and the reduction in grenade health added to the increase in LAV health might see a resurgence of Dust Cart Way to go guys AR's optimal range is cut down to 40m while 3 other weapons easily overlap it. You can try to spin it all you want, but the "I win button" will soon be gone. Also, if you've been paying attention to vehicle changes, you'll realize that AV is being scaled down to what the new tanks are. Still a work in progress, but something that needed to happen. The ARs optimal and effective ranges the same as these new stats are so it really isnt going to change anything, please remember this post after all this stuff gets rolled out and you still get popped from an AR at distance and want to call it an I win button And if YOU have been paying attention youll notice that many vehicles have been given more base health compensating for the loss of a slot or two which combined with the damage reduction to AV means they get to sit around effectively untouchable once again, I foresee a lot of squads having one member calling in a tank while the others cluster around him reducing the change of the enemy even getting off one of the new ** weak swarms since the range is cut by more than half now Its really just another case of CCP taking the nerfing to far as usual, one or the other would have been fine but both at once destroys the weapons usability and I have a bad feeling something similar is going to happen to the forge gun I guess all the guys that wanted a world of tanks shooting gallery got it I'll just let you believe your delusions. It's more entertaining that way.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 742	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:39:00 - [26] - Quote The Que up wizard should either que someone as Infantry or Hav user with a selection button. If you que up as just Infantry, you cannot spawn HAV's If you que up as Hav user, you can spawn vehicles and if you choose still run around like infantry But now the game can resort to matching Vehicles vs vehicles properly, if you are going to need 3 guys to take down 1 Tank and the opposing side drops 6 tanks, they effectivly almost doubled their Team Output, if your team then cant drop counter vehicles, your gonna get farmed alive. with a selectable option, the game already knows that their are going to be 6people on the team to spawn tanks, it can then counter with an appropriate amount of tanks on the other side. Otherwise the trend of either rolling or getting rolled is going to continue, though fights are really with a neck to neck race, they dont happen much anymore.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2222	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:43:00 - [27] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: The funny thing is the ranges on the AR stay the same New FOTM is going to be tanks though, I guess all their whining and crying paid off so a proto swarm in the future will only be as effective as a standard swarm now IE not doing ** and the reduction in grenade health added to the increase in LAV health might see a resurgence of Dust Cart Way to go guys AR's optimal range is cut down to 40m while 3 other weapons easily overlap it. You can try to spin it all you want, but the "I win button" will soon be gone. Also, if you've been paying attention to vehicle changes, you'll realize that AV is being scaled down to what the new tanks are. Still a work in progress, but something that needed to happen. The ARs optimal and effective ranges the same as these new stats are so it really isnt going to change anything, please remember this post after all this stuff gets rolled out and you still get popped from an AR at distance and want to call it an I win button And if YOU have been paying attention youll notice that many vehicles have been given more base health compensating for the loss of a slot or two which combined with the damage reduction to AV means they get to sit around effectively untouchable once again, I foresee a lot of squads having one member calling in a tank while the others cluster around him reducing the change of the enemy even getting off one of the new ** weak swarms since the range is cut by more than half now Its really just another case of CCP taking the nerfing to far as usual, one or the other would have been fine but both at once destroys the weapons usability and I have a bad feeling something similar is going to happen to the forge gun I guess all the guys that wanted a world of tanks shooting gallery got it I'll just let you believe your delusions. It's more entertaining that way. Man you always do this, say something dumb, get called on it, try to retort, get more than you can handle and run off Try to put up a little fight if you want to instigate an argument
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1886	Posted - 2013.10.25 09:44:00 - [28] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Enough said... But these are all assault rifles. They just have different names. If anything, this solidifies the AR514 title.


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