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Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:36:00 -
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Love useing the PC. If I could change one thing it would be the brief pause after you shoot it. It is painfully slow and then you have to reload, swap weapons or do what ever.until I get the proficiency up on this bad boy I won't be K.O ing many med frames with out my sidearm. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
4122
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:38:00 -
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I'm pretty sure it also affects the sidearm swapping, which is more of a problem imo. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Auxiliaries
283
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:07:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm pretty sure it also affects the sidearm swapping, which is more of a problem imo.
This. The pause in weapon swap is completely ********. I can swap other weapons instantly, but with PLC I am frakked. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
738
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm pretty sure it also affects the sidearm swapping, which is more of a problem imo.
exactly, this is how it works. you cannot switch the weapon till the animations of the PLC finishes.
2 seconds for a weapon swap is silly. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
95
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:49:00 -
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Agree |
Kierkegaard Soren
DUST University
Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:52:00 -
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Agree. I'd also like to be able to hold the charge so I can line up the shot without feeling rushed to pull the shot. |
Roldrage
The Plasma Cannon Doctrine
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:59:00 -
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Sprint cancel after the shot. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1558
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:04:00 -
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Plasma cannon needs a kick in the rear an entire reworking actually it has no definable role at the moment it's good at a few things but other weapons can do it's job and with more effectiveness then it can.
I just reminded myself of my scout suit and proxi mines  |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
739
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:10:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot.
sprint cancel often leads to other bugs with the PLC => either reload without actually reloading or the next shot dealing no damage. not really an option  |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
95
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:21:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot. sprint cancel often leads to other bugs with the PLC => either reload without actually reloading or the next shot dealing no damage. not really an option
The no damage part hurts because it usually happens in surprise CQC encounters. |
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Chit Hoppened
Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors
71
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:21:00 -
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Use cover after the shot.
The Cannon isn't like all the other Light Weapons where you can reload in a few seconds after dealing your damage and get to dealing more.
Intelligence is key when using the Cannon.
Unless you're in a 6 man Cannon Squad where other Cannons can cover your reload time.
But yes, the lock time after a shot is terrible and needs to be shorter or just not there. |
Roldrage
The Plasma Cannon Doctrine
224
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:26:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot. sprint cancel often leads to other bugs with the PLC => either reload without actually reloading or the next shot dealing no damage. not really an option
I've been doing it for a while now with no issues, I'm actually wondering if it got hotfixed. |
Chit Hoppened
Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors
71
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:37:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot. sprint cancel often leads to other bugs with the PLC => either reload without actually reloading or the next shot dealing no damage. not really an option I've been doing it for a while now with no issues, I'm actually wondering if it got hotfixed.
Sprint Cancelling works but for some reason it sometimes shows that you have no ammo in the chamber (the ammo bar by the ammo count).
But it does that with more than just the Cannon.
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LOADED'HORN
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:09:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot.
Yea, except when engaged up close and trying to strafe side ways, cant get the reload to happen, the eternal switch to a side arm, I swear the reds can see I'm gimped and pause, or time slows down to give me a chance. Last night the CQC went about 50/50. Did have many OHKs and that was fun enough though. Whoosh----->Surprise! |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
97
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:26:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Agree. I'd also like to be able to hold the charge so I can line up the shot without feeling rushed to pull the shot.
Maybe they could just make a variant that allows you to do this like the forge guns have. That would be pretty interesting.
In general I'm happy with the PLC but if there was one thing to change I think it would be the time delay the OP mentions. |
trraacx
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:30:00 -
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Changing the plasma cannon to be any better than it is might be a mistake. It is the funnest weapon in the game. I think their might be someone near that wall or null cannon. Wham, kill +50. Awesome stuff.
If they get voice working, and people actually use it, they could be one of the most influential weapons in the game. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Auxiliaries
284
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:00:00 -
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Chit Hoppened wrote:Roldrage wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot. sprint cancel often leads to other bugs with the PLC => either reload without actually reloading or the next shot dealing no damage. not really an option I've been doing it for a while now with no issues, I'm actually wondering if it got hotfixed. Sprint Cancelling works but for some reason it sometimes shows that you have no ammo in the chamber (the ammo bar by the ammo count). But it does that with more than just the Cannon.
Reloading syncs local chamber gamestate with server, cancelling glitches that.
Also sprint cancel is not viable in gunfight. :[ |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
479
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:36:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Plasma cannon needs a kick in the rear an entire reworking actually it has no definable role at the moment it's good at a few things but other weapons can do it's job and with more effectiveness then it can. I just reminded myself of my scout suit and proxi mines
The pc is a defensive weapon. Using it like a run n gun toy will always result in a rightful death. |
Roldrage
The Plasma Cannon Doctrine
225
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:44:00 -
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It is viable in a gunfight if you're quick enough, it doesn't work after a jumping shot well though. Literally after the "dunk" sound hit l3+up, flick back the left stick and quickly press square/triangle after that. Then strafe to your hearts content. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
279
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:46:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot.
That can cancel the shot after it leaves the barrel.... I've done that.
Snipers and Plasma both get a "vanishing bullet" effect. Meaning that After the shot is fired, if killed or running soon after the bullet simply fails. |
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Roldrage
The Plasma Cannon Doctrine
225
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:49:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot. That can cancel the shot after it leaves the barrel.... I've done that. Snipers and Plasma both get a "vanishing bullet" effect. Meaning that After the shot is fired, if killed or running soon after the bullet simply fails.
Again I've not had this happen recently, I really do think some form of hotfix has occurred but I can't say for certain. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
651
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:56:00 -
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Would be used more for what it is supposed to be as a med to long range weapon if it worked like the sniper rifle and slowed you to ADS mode when you press to fire and then fire on release. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1559
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:56:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Plasma cannon needs a kick in the rear an entire reworking actually it has no definable role at the moment it's good at a few things but other weapons can do it's job and with more effectiveness then it can. I just reminded myself of my scout suit and proxi mines The pc is a defensive weapon. Using it like a run n gun toy will always result in a rightful death.
I don't remember saying it was...... |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
739
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Posted - 2013.10.24 08:27:00 -
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Roldrage wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot. That can cancel the shot after it leaves the barrel.... I've done that. Snipers and Plasma both get a "vanishing bullet" effect. Meaning that After the shot is fired, if killed or running soon after the bullet simply fails. Again I've not had this happen recently, I really do think some form of hotfix has occurred but I can't say for certain.
none of the PLC bugs were fixed. happened to my just yesterday.
if you shoot, sprint cancel, switch weapon, switch back to PLC and reload then you get the no damage bug almost everytime. |
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Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
398
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Posted - 2013.10.25 01:56:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Roldrage wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Roldrage wrote:Sprint cancel after the shot. That can cancel the shot after it leaves the barrel.... I've done that. Snipers and Plasma both get a "vanishing bullet" effect. Meaning that After the shot is fired, if killed or running soon after the bullet simply fails. Again I've not had this happen recently, I really do think some form of hotfix has occurred but I can't say for certain. none of the PLC bugs were fixed. happened to my just yesterday. if you shoot, sprint cancel, switch weapon, switch back to PLC and reload then you get the no damage bug almost everytime.
this explains why I feel as though Im shooting spit wads when I should be killing people... |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
388
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Posted - 2013.10.25 02:12:00 -
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I do get the dud round sometimes after the sprint cancel. But what really bothers me is the fact that sometimes splash damage doesn't even register. At all. I've hit people point blank without them sustaining any damage. Then I'm stuck dancing around with my SMG instead of just finishing them off with it. So annoying.
And more than once I've had a round just go right through someone. Direct hit. Flies right through them sometimes. Other times shots that shouldn't have been a direct hit will OHK them. Very inconsistent. |
LOADED'HORN
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
41
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Posted - 2013.10.25 02:26:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:I do get the dud round sometimes after the sprint cancel. But what really bothers me is the fact that sometimes splash damage doesn't even register. At all. I've hit people point blank without them sustaining any damage. Then I'm stuck dancing around with my SMG instead of just finishing them off with it. So annoying.
And more than once I've had a round just go right through someone. Direct hit. Flies right through them sometimes. Other times shots that shouldn't have been a direct hit will OHK them. Very inconsistent.
I agree, have experienced these scenerios many times. Good explanation. |
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Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
398
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Posted - 2013.10.25 02:30:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:I do get the dud round sometimes after the sprint cancel. But what really bothers me is the fact that sometimes splash damage doesn't even register. At all. I've hit people point blank without them sustaining any damage. Then I'm stuck dancing around with my SMG instead of just finishing them off with it. So annoying.
And more than once I've had a round just go right through someone. Direct hit. Flies right through them sometimes. Other times shots that shouldn't have been a direct hit will OHK them. Very inconsistent.
on the bright sid. the PLC has shown me hoe to make the breach MD viable. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
598
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Posted - 2013.10.25 02:33:00 -
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I'd rather take increased projectile speed 2x or 3x. That would be a much more tangible buff. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
598
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Posted - 2013.10.25 02:38:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Plasma cannon needs a kick in the rear an entire reworking actually it has no definable role at the moment it's good at a few things but other weapons can do it's job and with more effectiveness then it can. I just reminded myself of my scout suit and proxi mines The pc is a defensive weapon. Using it like a run n gun toy will always result in a rightful death.
lol how do you figure? I've actually had the totally opposite experience. you can run offense shoot and hid ok with it but if you are using it in self defense and you miss that only shot, and let's face it most of the time you will, you are screwed because you have no defense left anymore. |
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