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Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1884
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:52:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote: Name calling is the lowest form of argument. The Amarr use whips nor chains.
you called me a bigot, I call you a dumbass.. read Templar one and youl see that they do. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3377
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:54:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Name calling is the lowest form of argument. The Amarr use whips nor chains.
you called me a bigot, I call you a dumbass.. read Templar one and youl see that they do.
Read Two deaths and you will see how the Gallente dispense justice. At the will of a mob. |
Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1884
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Name calling is the lowest form of argument. The Amarr use whips nor chains.
you called me a bigot, I call you a dumbass.. read Templar one and youl see that they do. Read Two deaths and you will see how the Gallente dispense justice. At the will of a mob.
justice and freedom are separate entities. freedom is the power to do will, justice is a means to ending a conflict. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
512
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:57:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Name calling is the lowest form of argument. The Amarr use whips nor chains.
you called me a bigot, I call you a dumbass.. read Templar one and youl see that they do. I was referring more to the Gallente as a whole rather than the individual people. I'm sure the individuals aren't so bad, but their culture and government disgusts me. |
Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1884
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:01:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Void Echo wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Name calling is the lowest form of argument. The Amarr use whips nor chains.
you called me a bigot, I call you a dumbass.. read Templar one and youl see that they do. I was referring more to the Gallente as a whole rather than the individual people. I'm sure the individuals aren't so bad, but their culture and government disgusts me.
just like the amarr as a whole disgusts me, individuals like adamance however I can get along with. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3377
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:02:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Name calling is the lowest form of argument. The Amarr use whips nor chains.
you called me a bigot, I call you a dumbass.. read Templar one and youl see that they do. Read Two deaths and you will see how the Gallente dispense justice. At the will of a mob. justice and freedom are separate entities. freedom is the power to do will, justice is a means to ending a conflict.
And the Amarr are both incarnate.
Free will does not exclude the concept of Uniform Thought, if all people are at will to think and feel the same way, how then could we have war, of civil strife?
All True Amarr are examples of this. All believe in the one true God, his tenets are their Scriptures, their Empress His avatar. All are free under Imperial rule to serve God in their own way.
We are also justice, for our Holy mission is to Reclaim and unite the stars under one banner and end all conflict and evil.
I'm as devoted the cause...yet ever so slightly more reasonable than most of the Religious Reclaimers. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
26
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Name calling is the lowest form of argument. The Amarr use whips nor chains.
you called me a bigot, I call you a dumbass.. read Templar one and youl see that they do. Read Two deaths and you will see how the Gallente dispense justice. At the will of a mob. justice and freedom are separate entities. freedom is the power to do will, justice is a means to ending a conflict. And the Amarr are both incarnate. Free will does not exclude the concept of Uniform Thought, if all people are at will to think and feel the same way, how then could we have war, of civil strife? All True Amarr are examples of this. All believe in the one true God, his tenets are their Scriptures, their Empress His avatar. All are free under Imperial rule to serve God in their own way. We are also justice, for our Holy mission is to Reclaim and unite the stars under one banner and end all conflict and evil. I'm as devoted the cause...yet ever so slightly more reasonable than most of the Religious Reclaimers.
I know you are believing person of your beloved God and her Avatar, your Empress. But isnt better to trust in yourself, in what you build through your blood, labor and sweat?!
Its just question from one Caldari boyo, nothing offensive. Because how i can see, we have both same ideals but you have them through religion and we have it through meritocracy. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3380
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:55:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:
I know you are believing person of your beloved God and her Avatar, your Empress. But isnt better to trust in yourself, in what you build through your blood, labor and sweat?!
Its just question from one Caldari boyo, nothing offensive. Because how i can see, we have both same ideals but you have them through religion and we have it through meritocracy.
What I do in God's name is built through blood, labor, and sweat. God's demands nothing more and nothing less from his Children.
To trust in oneself leads to Free Thought, that is the instigator of sin, when the individual is left to his own devices he breeds sin and pride. When that individual is within a society, much like the Caldari believe, there is no room for truly Free Thought. Only the Though of the Whole, of the Uniformness of the society is what will strengthen the collective.
While I am a Free man of the Empire, I am also fallible flesh. While the spirit is strong I cannot falter. Who I am now, and who I choose to be does not allow me to suffer the heretic to live, nor the masses revel in their flesh, nor the Light of our Faith to remain un-spread to the darkest corners of New Eden.
If I were anything else that who I am now I have no doubt that spiritual strength to resist what temptations the ideals of "False Freedom" offers. That being said MY HAV was named for my virtues as a Templar. My faith is of the purest and truest kind, and as adamant as steel. |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
101
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Posted - 2013.10.20 21:13:00 -
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Oh dear god, so many of you know so little about the lore, and yet try to preach it.
This thread hurts |
bolsh lee
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
616
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Posted - 2013.10.20 21:18:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:I don't know why anyone would hate the Caldari, other than Gallente nationalists. They are probably the most "good" race in New Eden. The Gallente have war crimes and political corruption, the Amarr have slavery, the Minmatar are angry and violent. The worst the Caldari are guilty of as a race is their low value of human life.
If that life human or clone is weak or worthless to the State it should gave no value ! |
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1927
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Posted - 2013.10.20 21:25:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
the amarr represent humanity's full when wanting to kill everything that's not like you
Says the Gallantean ;because we are all free,everybody must be free.
Who opose our views of freedom must die...
Oh the IRON-E |
Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:09:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:
the amarr represent humanity's full when wanting to kill everything that's not like you
Says the Gallantean ;because we are all free,everybody must be free.Who opose our views of freedom must die...Oh the IRON-E
ikr lol, gallente freedom is much more than amarrian freedom to be honest though |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3389
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:29:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:
the amarr represent humanity's full when wanting to kill everything that's not like you
Says the Gallantean ;because we are all free,everybody must be free.Who opose our views of freedom must die...Oh the IRON-E ikr lol, gallente freedom is much more than amarrian freedom to be honest though Yeah but its down right ridiculous how far you go to oppress the people you say you wish to liberate. |
Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:
the amarr represent humanity's full when wanting to kill everything that's not like you
Says the Gallantean ;because we are all free,everybody must be free.Who opose our views of freedom must die...Oh the IRON-E ikr lol, gallente freedom is much more than amarrian freedom to be honest though Yeah but its down right ridiculous how far you go to oppress the people you say you wish to liberate.
il give you one thing, at least your empire openly oppresses everyone. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3390
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:39:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:
the amarr represent humanity's full when wanting to kill everything that's not like you
Says the Gallantean ;because we are all free,everybody must be free.Who opose our views of freedom must die...Oh the IRON-E ikr lol, gallente freedom is much more than amarrian freedom to be honest though Yeah but its down right ridiculous how far you go to oppress the people you say you wish to liberate. il give you one thing, at least your empire openly oppresses everyone.
And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. |
Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are.
a democracy holds no slavery, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3390
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Posted - 2013.10.20 22:58:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race Why denounce what must be done to bring the people closer to God? |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race Why denounce what must be done to bring the people closer to God?
if you want people to actually want or try to understand you and your empire and not make biased judgments based on your empire despite them being the truth, then you need to denounce slavery.
amarr has a reputation of being hated because of slavery across all of new eden. if you want people to not look at you as an evil puppet empire, then you need to denounce slavery. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3392
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:09:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race Why denounce what must be done to bring the people closer to God? if you want people to actually want or try to understand you and your empire and not make biased judgments based on your empire despite them being the truth, then you need to denounce slavery. amarr has a reputation of being hated because of slavery across all of new eden. if you want people to not look at you as an evil puppet empire, then you need to denounce slavery. Puppet Empire?
Puppet of who. Every Amarrian does their duty because they believe it is right. There is no puppetry here, Faith does not make one any less free than one who does not believe.
As for denouncing slavery it is like us asking you to denounce free and fair elections. Its is core to our culture. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
27
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:12:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race
You should check modern slavery and democracy from old 20th century. |
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race Why denounce what must be done to bring the people closer to God? if you want people to actually want or try to understand you and your empire and not make biased judgments based on your empire despite them being the truth, then you need to denounce slavery. amarr has a reputation of being hated because of slavery across all of new eden. if you want people to not look at you as an evil puppet empire, then you need to denounce slavery. Puppet Empire? Puppet of who. Every Amarrian does their duty because they believe it is right. There is no puppetry here, Faith does not make one any less free than one who does not believe. As for denouncing slavery it is like us asking you to denounce free and fair elections. Its is core to our culture.
then you will never be viewed as a just and good empire... reap what you sew. |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:41:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race You should check modern slavery and democracy from old 20th century.
you do realize that slavery is illegal in modern 1st world countries right? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3392
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:42:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
then you will never be viewed as a just and good empire... reap what you sew.
Just and Good?
We are the servants of God, the chosen given the rights to dispense justice, and Reclaim the stars for all of humanity. You have neither the right nor the authority to name us such Heathen.
Ours is the way of righteousness, ours the way of goodness, and the brining of light to the stars. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3392
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:43:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race You should check modern slavery and democracy from old 20th century. you do realize that slavery is illegal in modern 1st world countries right? You also realise this is game and comparisons from the real world should never be drawn. |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:And we do it equally. Damn were more of a democracy that you are. a democracy holds no slavery nor does it have a single ruler for life, your as far from a democracy as you can get, when you as an empire denounce slavery, you will no longer be the most hated race You should check modern slavery and democracy from old 20th century. you do realize that slavery is illegal in modern 1st world countries right? You also realise this is game and comparisons from the real world should never be drawn.
tell that to him. |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1887
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:
then you will never be viewed as a just and good empire... reap what you sew.
Just and Good? We are the servants of God, the chosen given the rights to dispense justice, and Reclaim the stars for all of humanity. You have neither the right nor the authority to name us such Heathen. Ours is the way of righteousness, ours the way of goodness, and the brining of light to the stars.
you are neither just nor are you good... and your god cant kill me.
its not how the rest of new eden sees you because of slavery. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
884
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:24:00 -
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There are good and bad in all races this applies to real life as well. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3400
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:48:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:
then you will never be viewed as a just and good empire... reap what you sew.
Just and Good? We are the servants of God, the chosen given the rights to dispense justice, and Reclaim the stars for all of humanity. You have neither the right nor the authority to name us such Heathen. Ours is the way of righteousness, ours the way of goodness, and the brining of light to the stars. you are neither just nor are you good... and your god cant kill me. its not how the rest of new eden sees you because of slavery.
New Eden is a den of heretics, renegades, and traitors. The few faithful gather around the light of the Empire, those who are loyal support us, and are rewarded for it, for what you give unto the Empire, the Empire will give back unto you.
God would never sully his hands with the killing of his own children. You are not worthy of his attentions, nor his ire. The Lord sends his avenging angels for that. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1681
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:53:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:The most hated race in the game? Do they all carry ARs or MDs? If so, then yes. |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1889
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:
then you will never be viewed as a just and good empire... reap what you sew.
Just and Good? We are the servants of God, the chosen given the rights to dispense justice, and Reclaim the stars for all of humanity. You have neither the right nor the authority to name us such Heathen. Ours is the way of righteousness, ours the way of goodness, and the brining of light to the stars. you are neither just nor are you good... and your god cant kill me. its not how the rest of new eden sees you because of slavery. New Eden is a den of heretics, renegades, and traitors. The few faithful gather around the light of the Empire, those who are loyal support us, and are rewarded for it, for what you give unto the Empire, the Empire will give back unto you. God would never sully his hands with the killing of his own children. You are not worthy of his attentions, nor his ire. The Lord sends his avenging angels for that.
in other words your god is a coward... |
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