If eve goes F2P ill likely quit. Seriously the way it is now keeps most of the rabble out, going F2P would just increase the level of stupidity to unbearable levels,

Thats just my $0.02

Some of the people i meet make me want to blow the planet up and kill every human.

Sure everyone can afford to play dust since it is free to play. So natural there will be a lot of people which means a lot of ego's and a lot of idea's. Unfortunately this also means a lot of stupid people as well. Free to play games however have been very profitable when done well. I can't remember many right now but there have been several pay to play games that have gone FTP and there are many games that came out as FTP and are profitable.
So really going FTP should allow the company to spend more resources on the game to make it even better. They just have to filter through the idea's and realize which ones are good and which ones are best ignored.

Sounds an awful lot like elitist scum talk here... may need to taze you bro. *starts humming the national anthem of twinkyland* AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Attack!

I would support making Dust514 P2P, if development was dramatically sped up. I would want to see immediate results from the game becoming P2P. most players i know have aurum items, so i dont see why those people wouldnt throw in some money to keep playing.

maybe we could adopt the EVE way, something related to buying subscription time with ingame currency? we could throw 10m isk a week/month into membership. no new player will gain 10m, but after a month or two, they will be getting close.

thoughts?

It's profitable due to some of the community who is dedicated (the pack buyers and such) while the majority of the community gripes and complains about everything they can get their hands on. From this perspective, it seems like 60 percent complains while 40 percent are dedicated.

So can we say that FTP is being benefited by those who aren't dedicated but those dedicated are, in a sense, exploited by the majority of the community who brings unnecessary complaints which effect the game? The dedicated will support while the others will just bring about their shenanigans for kicks. Due to this, doesn't that affect how the developer can respond to players?

Someone paying me money to correct something, I'm right on it. Some work I do for "free", I'm not that excited to work for. Especially if they're complaining every step of the way.

BTW, I miss the merc pack.

That's total BS. Dust is not an MMO RPG. You only communicate with your corp and only if you want to. Last I checked ppl mostly keep quiet in pubs. So F2P does not push you toward fraternizing with ex-convicts. Also, somehow I don't think that $10 a month is a solid barrier against idiots in video games.

F2P is a curse though for an entirely different reason. F2P means a cheaply made game that sets low expectations and never generates enough revenue to accomplish anything worthwhile.

Do you feel Dust is good enough at the moment to be retail price?

Do you feel Dust is good enough at the moment to be retail price?

Do you feel Dust is good enough at the moment to be retail price?

I'm not an advocate for it but if it means dedicated development and a filtration of the community, I'm all for it.

It's my theory that the majority of the community harms the development of this game. For instance, a thread was created on where should Dust go next. Should it be core or content? It got me thinking, they've been working on the core for some time. Has the community been at fault for leading CCP down dead end roads because CCP wants to maintain a player base?

If you're paying, you are caring about your investment.

Even reading the EVE forums, the attitude and demeanor over there is much different. Yes, they do have their trolls and some foolishness like every other forum. But the majority of the community there is dedicated. They want the game to continue its growth.

These are just some of the thoughts I've been pushing around in my head. The ups and downs of F2P...

Honestly, I've played David Cage games.

And this is an example right here by this post. He responds to the superficial instead of reading my whole post. How can he claimed to have read my post when he responds superficially to it?

I'm looking for an intellectual discussion here. I didn't know I had to wave a banner that says "Hey, I'm not trying to change it to P2P but does the F2P model affect the overall growing persistence of this game"

I thought you would have figured that out yourself...

It's a broad scope I'm talking here

Well there's your problem.

I think you took my super serious post too seriously brah... like serious n' stuffGäó

Yes and yes. I have discovered what ppl from EVE were claiming. The console community is a generally lower quality player base. Yes to moving this to the PC.

Free to play adds to the lol factor of this game. No investment means no responsibility which means no respect. Ppl just troll the game and in turn ppl like me that would otherwise take the game more seriously just say F it and dabble with it for general enjoyment. Having to pay a monthly fee would keep out the rabble (usually the young ppl that need daddy's credit card to play).

Oh well, whatcha gonna do? They warned us PC folk about the fast twitch FPS GTA morons. I stay because I like the world and backstory CCP has created and I like ground warfare. I esp like sci-fi based ground warfare.

You've already got ppl tearing this game down to a pissing contest about kd/r and usefulness judged on just hacking a stupid objective.
This game was supposed to be more than that and the EVE connection was supposed to do that. If CCP were truthful those promotional cgi videos would be vastly different. Seriously, do you see any hacking going on in those videos?

I would support making Dust514 P2P, if development was dramatically sped up. I would want to see immediate results from the game becoming P2P. most players i know have aurum items, so i dont see why those people wouldnt throw in some money to keep playing.

maybe we could adopt the EVE way, something related to buying subscription time with ingame currency? we could throw 10m isk a week/month into membership. no new player will gain 10m, but after a month or two, they will be getting close.

thoughts?