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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:59:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Meh. Tankers complained hard back then too. Because then, infantry were crying for nerfs even though few of them bothered with AV. Now everybody has ADV AV and they're all still complaining because they still can't solo tanks. |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:00:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Yes, can we have invincible tanks back please. Not nearly enough newbies quit this game from being stomped by the weakass tanks we have now. We need to be more efficient!
Give use good tanks and make matchmaking good. Good tanks go up against proto AV. Tanks in 1.5 are stuck using really expensive STD tanks vs really powerful and potent proto AV. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:00:00 -
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
rofl
Do not make tanks good, I need the free 150 WP XD
Shut up, you know CCP doesn' t like you vehicle pilots
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:01:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote: You dont need an Av main when all you need is to spend 700k sp into a proto Av weapon. Well im not saying hes bad because of one situation but that's my experience. In that situation he was not wise, I don't have a big tank name like void but im not an opponent to be taken lightly.
So you have 1 proto AV weapon and even if you re running around in a MLT suit that makes you an AV specialist, but in order for me to have an opinion on tanks i need to have a Tanker Main?
Very,convincing.....
Equivalent of what you are saying: ''Yeah i dont need a Tanker MAin. I have Tank proto turrets''.LOL. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:01:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:you realize this was back in February right? Back when there was fuckall in the global SP pool right? you can do similar wizardry in the new player matches today if you really wanted to. let a new account get up to 1.5mil SP, dump into a maddy with adv blaster and go to ******* town if that's what you're into. i have dumped 12 mil sp into tanks, 7.5 into shields and the rest into armour, till this day i regret ever updating from chromosome, If you are a tanker, you would know how it feels when the thing you spent you hard earned isk and sp into blows up in your face in two seconds, especially my falchion. Its ok if i lose it once in a while but losing one 60% of the time in a match is unacceptable. My Sagaris was a boss, it payed for its self and i was prideful because i owned one. Now, its a shame to tell someone your a tanker. Tankers NEED TO UNDERSTAND you are not even 10% of DUST player base. STOP talking like you deserve the game to be broke in your favor just because your tanks are expensive and you have spent millions of SP. It needs balace? YES Does in need chromo tanks? F*** no ..... So because there's so few tankers, that means CCP doesn't need to listen to us about vehicles, and they should only take infantry's advice on how vehicles are supposed to work? We don't tell you how infantry is supposed to work as it pertains to that alone. We basically tell you how to destroy us, easily, yet all of you still complain. You're beyond hope. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:03:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
How many times do i have to tell you that you are not a tanker... You know fu*king absolutely nothing about tanks. Also, i have a proto ishukone Assault FG and i run it with my militia heavy suit with one militia heavy dmg mods, I have taken down the best of madrugars and the best shield tankers in this game without much trouble. You need to go shut your fu*king trap and stop talking the talk without walking the walk. Please do the fu*king dust community and stick to your specialty. P.S. any proto Av weapon is more than enough to rip any tank into shreds. If you cannot kill a tank, your fuc*king doing it wrong.
I have 2 tanker accounts , they make me as much of a tanker as your ISHI FG makes you an AV specialist.
the BEST tankers? Go 1 v1 vs good tankers such as Void, True adamanace, legend,etc... Bet you cant solo them even if you spend the whole match shooting at them..lol (Even in the current state of tanks) LOL No you don't, stop lying. If you had just one decent tanker alt, you wouldn't be crying about tanks at all, ever, because you'd realize how difficult they are to operate. Go away |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: So because there's so few tankers, that means CCP doesn't need to listen to us about vehicles, and they should only take infantry's advice on how vehicles are supposed to work? We don't tell you how infantry is supposed to work as it pertains to that alone. We basically tell you how to destroy us, easily, yet all of you still complain. You're beyond hope.
I love how you always put words in my mouth, plus the only ones complaining all days are tankers....
''LOL No you don't, stop lying. If you had just one decent tanker alt, you wouldn't be crying about tanks at all, ever, because you'd realize how difficult they are to operate. Go away''
Wow you still havnt notices your opinion is worthless to me and i dont care what you say? go away im talking to Dukey here... No scrubs allowed... |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:03:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote: You dont need an Av main when all you need is to spend 700k sp into a proto Av weapon. Well im not saying hes bad because of one situation but that's my experience. In that situation he was not wise, I don't have a big tank name like void but im not an opponent to be taken lightly.
So you have 1 proto AV weapon and even if you re running around in a MLT suit that makes you an AV specialist, but in order for me to have an opinion on tanks i need to have a Tanker Main?
Very,convincing.....
Equivalent of what you are saying: ''Yeah i dont need a Tanker MAin. I have Tank proto turrets''.LOL.
My point exactly, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AV SPECIALIST BECAUSE TANKS ARE UTTER BULLSHIT... you need to be a tank specialist because you gotta make bullshit work. BTW, i said noting about AV in this post...
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:04:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Im NOT saying the AV vs Tanks balance is not broken. It is, and it needs to be fixed.
But in Chromo, tanks were unkillable and no fun for anybody except the tankers. So no. not gonna happen, go eat dukey... They were unkillable because infantry fired ARs at them and expected them to go down. |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:04:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: So because there's so few tankers, that means CCP doesn't need to listen to us about vehicles, and they should only take infantry's advice on how vehicles are supposed to work? We don't tell you how infantry is supposed to work as it pertains to that alone. We basically tell you how to destroy us, easily, yet all of you still complain. You're beyond hope.
I love how you always put words in my mouth, plus the only ones complaining all days are tankers....
well maybe if CCP fixed this nonsense we wouldn't complain. |
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:05:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Im NOT saying the AV vs Tanks balance is not broken. It is, and it needs to be fixed.
But in Chromo, tanks were unkillable and no fun for anybody except the tankers. So no. not gonna happen, go eat dukey... did you see that that tank, it was down to 86 armor, who in the fuk said they went killable. This is a specific case : 1st/ HE went down to 86 but did he die? NO 2nd/Did the AVers get ANYTHING by shooting the tank except some caps in his head? No 3rd/This is a map Where AVing i s Extremeley easy. This tank in Line Harvest for example? IS UNKILLABLE. 4rd/ Give it up man, no one wants Chromo tanks back. We want Balance and for both tankers and AV to be able to make profit. The only thing you want is for vehicles as a whole to be removed from Dust. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1827
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:06:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
My point exactly, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AV SPECIALIST BECAUSE TANKS ARE UTTER BULLSHIT... you need to be a tank specialist because you gotta make bullshit work. BTW, i said noting about AV in this post...
I know my bad. Lets leave it at this.
Tanks need a buff. Av needs a slight nerf.
But NOT chromo levels.
You will always miss them same as i will forever miss my Type-B scout...........But it wont and should come back... |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
I spit in voids face, he stood their like a brick taking dmg form my milita heavy and my proto Fg and got killed... Anyways, i cannot kill them because they are armor tanker, it is piratically impossible for a shield tank to kill an armor tank especially since armor tanks have better resistance, much, much much better reppers, and they have way more ehp and are also faster. Also, most of the people you are referring to are railgun snipers.
Wow thats pretty harsh thing to say for a fellow tanker LOL. Yeah agreed shield tanks are uber crap. My Main is King Checkmate; AV specialist and Laser weapon specialist. 18 Mill in both.Since i CANT HAVE 2 mains, just 1 main and other alts with different purposes yeah i dont have a tanker MAIN. Same as you dont have a AV main. You don't have a tanker alt at all. Stop lying. You wouldn't be crying about tanks at all if you really did have a tanker alt. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:08:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Yes, can we have invincible tanks back please. Not nearly enough newbies quit this game from being stomped by the weakass tanks we have now. We need to be more efficient! No, they quite because all they're getting killed by are Imperial Scrambler Rifles, Duvolles, and Freedom Mass Drivers. I'm pretty sure they're not quitting because of 6700 armor Madrugars. MLT swarms are enough to chase off a cautious pilot. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:09:00 -
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When will Spkr4theDead learn no one gives a *** what you think LOL
Stop posting, i dont even read your posts anymore XD |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1050
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:10:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Why, because it would require teamwork to take down? I love the double standards. Tankers have to use teamwork to survive, but infantry shouldn't have to use teamwork to take out a tank. I never said this. I say if a tank can solo ,so should AV. Its the opossite....But i think BOTH should depend on teamwork to be effective. Chromo tanks did not need Teamwork at all... Infantry didn't bother with tanks during Chromosome. We had a boatload of tankers during Chromosome, who countered each other. Me and Takahiro on one team, STD tankers on the other. We countered each other. AV was a non-factor because infantry didn't care to go for PRO AV because it was expensive. Ishukone assault forge guns used to cost 117,000 ISK. Now they cost peanuts compared to the Chromosome build. Why? Because all infantry does is complain that it's too hard to solo tanks with MLT gear. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:11:00 -
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still waiting on Sir Dukey to answer.... |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1050
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:11:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote: You dont need an Av main when all you need is to spend 700k sp into a proto Av weapon. Well im not saying hes bad because of one situation but that's my experience. In that situation he was not wise, I don't have a big tank name like void but im not an opponent to be taken lightly.
So you have 1 proto AV weapon and even if you re running around in a MLT suit that makes you an AV specialist, but in order for me to have an opinion on tanks i need to have a Tanker Main?
Very,convincing.....
Equivalent of what you are saying: ''Yeah i dont need a Tanker MAin. I have Tank proto turrets''.LOL. You're not a tanker at all. I'm again on both sides of the coin. AV is incredibly easy to use. I stopped using my Haywires because they're so easy to use. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1050
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: So because there's so few tankers, that means CCP doesn't need to listen to us about vehicles, and they should only take infantry's advice on how vehicles are supposed to work? We don't tell you how infantry is supposed to work as it pertains to that alone. We basically tell you how to destroy us, easily, yet all of you still complain. You're beyond hope.
I love how you always put words in my mouth, plus the only ones complaining all days are tankers....''LOL No you don't, stop lying. If you had just one decent tanker alt, you wouldn't be crying about tanks at all, ever, because you'd realize how difficult they are to operate. Go away''Wow you still havnt notices your opinion is worthless to me and i dont care what you say? go away im talking to Dukey here... No scrubs allowed... LOL whatever. I'd stomp you with a tank or my Ishukone. You pick |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
221
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:13:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:When will Spkr4theDead learn no one gives a *** what you think LOL
Stop posting, i dont even read your posts anymore XD
spark is correct in some ways... but hes absolutely correct about the new player, they will probably see one tank every 10 matches and he will see 16 duvolles every match... |
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1050
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:13:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:When will Spkr4theDead learn no one gives a *** what you think LOL
Stop posting, i dont even read your posts anymore XD I'm building up likes pretty quickly, so people obviously like what I post. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:16:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:When will Spkr4theDead learn no one gives a *** what you think LOL
Stop posting, i dont even read your posts anymore XD spark is correct in some ways... but hes absolutely correct about the new player, they will probably see one tank every 10 matches and he will see 16 duvolles every match...
And im right when i say we do NOT need Chromo tanks back.
Its just,taking it too far.... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3198
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:17:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:When will Spkr4theDead learn no one gives a *** what you think LOL
Stop posting, i dont even read your posts anymore XD spark is correct in some ways... but hes absolutely correct about the new player, they will probably see one tank every 10 matches and he will see 16 duvolles every match... And im right when i say we do NOT need Chromo tanks back.Its just,taking it too far.... Well proto tanks could be chromo tanks. They were a tough fight, but not impossible to kill or fend off by any means. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1199
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:18:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:you realize this was back in February right? Back when there was fuckall in the global SP pool right? you can do similar wizardry in the new player matches today if you really wanted to. let a new account get up to 1.5mil SP, dump into a maddy with adv blaster and go to ******* town if that's what you're into. i have dumped 12 mil sp into tanks, 7.5 into shields and the rest into armour, till this day i regret ever updating from chromosome, If you are a tanker, you would know how it feels when the thing you spent you hard earned isk and sp into blows up in your face in two seconds, especially my falchion. Its ok if i lose it once in a while but losing one 60% of the time in a match is unacceptable. My Sagaris was a boss, it payed for its self and i was prideful because i owned one. Now, its a shame to tell someone your a tanker. So in ten matches you lose 6 tanks?
How many suits do you think people lose?
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Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:18:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
How many times do i have to tell you that you are not a tanker... You know fu*king absolutely nothing about tanks. Also, i have a proto ishukone Assault FG and i run it with my militia heavy suit with one militia heavy dmg mods, I have taken down the best of madrugars and the best shield tankers in this game without much trouble. You need to go shut your fu*king trap and stop talking the talk without walking the walk. Please do the fu*king dust community and stick to your specialty. P.S. any proto Av weapon is more than enough to rip any tank into shreds. If you cannot kill a tank, your fuc*king doing it wrong.
I have 2 tanker accounts , they make me as much of a tanker as your ISHI FG makes you an AV specialist.
the BEST tankers? Go 1 v1 vs good tankers such as Void, True adamanace, legend,etc... Bet you cant solo them even if you spend the whole match shooting at them..lol (Even in the current state of tanks) I spit in voids face, he stood their like a brick taking dmg form my milita heavy and my proto Fg and got killed... Anyways, i cannot kill them because they are armor tanker, it is piratically impossible for a shield tank to kill an armor tank especially since armor tanks have better resistance, much, much much better reppers, and they have way more ehp and are also faster. Also, most of the people you are referring to are railgun snipers.
notice how you were using a proto forge, not a miltia forge.... |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
224
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:22:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
How many times do i have to tell you that you are not a tanker... You know fu*king absolutely nothing about tanks. Also, i have a proto ishukone Assault FG and i run it with my militia heavy suit with one militia heavy dmg mods, I have taken down the best of madrugars and the best shield tankers in this game without much trouble. You need to go shut your fu*king trap and stop talking the talk without walking the walk. Please do the fu*king dust community and stick to your specialty. P.S. any proto Av weapon is more than enough to rip any tank into shreds. If you cannot kill a tank, your fuc*king doing it wrong.
I have 2 tanker accounts , they make me as much of a tanker as your ISHI FG makes you an AV specialist.
the BEST tankers? Go 1 v1 vs good tankers such as Void, True adamanace, legend,etc... Bet you cant solo them even if you spend the whole match shooting at them..lol (Even in the current state of tanks) I spit in voids face, he stood their like a brick taking dmg form my milita heavy and my proto Fg and got killed... Anyways, i cannot kill them because they are armor tanker, it is piratically impossible for a shield tank to kill an armor tank especially since armor tanks have better resistance, much, much much better reppers, and they have way more ehp and are also faster. Also, most of the people you are referring to are railgun snipers. notice how you were using a proto forge, not a miltia forge....
Proto Av is broken, but i got pissed that you and some other tanker blew up my dropship right after it hit the ground. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1828
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:When will Spkr4theDead learn no one gives a *** what you think LOL
Stop posting, i dont even read your posts anymore XD spark is correct in some ways... but hes absolutely correct about the new player, they will probably see one tank every 10 matches and he will see 16 duvolles every match... And im right when i say we do NOT need Chromo tanks back.Its just,taking it too far.... Well proto tanks could be chromo tanks. They were a tough fight, but not impossible to kill or fend off by any means.
If ''fending them off'' grants WP, again, im not agains Proto tanks being really hard to kill.... |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
224
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:22:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:you realize this was back in February right? Back when there was fuckall in the global SP pool right? you can do similar wizardry in the new player matches today if you really wanted to. let a new account get up to 1.5mil SP, dump into a maddy with adv blaster and go to ******* town if that's what you're into. i have dumped 12 mil sp into tanks, 7.5 into shields and the rest into armour, till this day i regret ever updating from chromosome, If you are a tanker, you would know how it feels when the thing you spent you hard earned isk and sp into blows up in your face in two seconds, especially my falchion. Its ok if i lose it once in a while but losing one 60% of the time in a match is unacceptable. My Sagaris was a boss, it payed for its self and i was prideful because i owned one. Now, its a shame to tell someone your a tanker. So in ten matches you lose 6 tanks? How many suits do you think people lose?
well, I would lose 6 but im smart enough to only call in tanks when im 100% sure their is no madrugars or proto AV out... |
Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
224
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:23:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:When will Spkr4theDead learn no one gives a *** what you think LOL
Stop posting, i dont even read your posts anymore XD spark is correct in some ways... but hes absolutely correct about the new player, they will probably see one tank every 10 matches and he will see 16 duvolles every match... And im right when i say we do NOT need Chromo tanks back.Its just,taking it too far.... Well proto tanks could be chromo tanks. They were a tough fight, but not impossible to kill or fend off by any means. If ''fending them off'' grants WP, again, im not agains Proto tanks being really hard to kill....
Great idea, if you do damage to a tank, you should get wp like you do in BF4.
15 wp seems good? |
Void Echo
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1829
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:23:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Void Echo wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
How many times do i have to tell you that you are not a tanker... You know fu*king absolutely nothing about tanks. Also, i have a proto ishukone Assault FG and i run it with my militia heavy suit with one militia heavy dmg mods, I have taken down the best of madrugars and the best shield tankers in this game without much trouble. You need to go shut your fu*king trap and stop talking the talk without walking the walk. Please do the fu*king dust community and stick to your specialty. P.S. any proto Av weapon is more than enough to rip any tank into shreds. If you cannot kill a tank, your fuc*king doing it wrong.
I have 2 tanker accounts , they make me as much of a tanker as your ISHI FG makes you an AV specialist.
the BEST tankers? Go 1 v1 vs good tankers such as Void, True adamanace, legend,etc... Bet you cant solo them even if you spend the whole match shooting at them..lol (Even in the current state of tanks) I spit in voids face, he stood their like a brick taking dmg form my milita heavy and my proto Fg and got killed... Anyways, i cannot kill them because they are armor tanker, it is piratically impossible for a shield tank to kill an armor tank especially since armor tanks have better resistance, much, much much better reppers, and they have way more ehp and are also faster. Also, most of the people you are referring to are railgun snipers. notice how you were using a proto forge, not a miltia forge.... Proto Av is broken, but i got pissed that you and some other tanker blew up my dropship right after it hit the ground.
don't fly a dropship in front of a tanker known for his rail gun usage. |
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