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Brynjar Reko
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:46:00 -
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After some searching I have found a number of threads with speculation in them, but haven't seen any threads that focus solely on speculation, so here we go: This is a thread for everyone that wants to talk weapons, dropsuits, vehicles, equipment, and anything else that is assumed to be released in variants for the different races.
The weapon set I've heard the least speculation over has been the heavy weapon set.
We already have two:
Caldari Forge Gun
Minmatar Heavy Machine Gun
As for the other two,
I would envisage for Gallente a sort of Plasma Thrower. I think it would fit in with the Gallente style; high DPS, extremely short range, effective against infantry.
I expect the Amarr will get a big Laser Cannon, perhaps with a bit of a zoom to differentiate it from the forge gun even more. Could have a longer range than the forge, or at least is effective at longer ranges due to zoom, and I could picture it wrecking sniper shield tanks that stay out too long.
Next up, Shotgun variants:
We only have the Gallente Plasma Shotgun so far.
These are a bit more difficult to speculate on, but I'll give it a shot if you'll pardon the pun.
Caldari - If ever there were a candidate for a mid-close to mid-long range slug-firing shotgun it would be the Caldari shotgun. Probably would only have around 4 shots without reloading.
Minmatar - I think a lower-damage, wider-spread auto-shotgun would fit the Minmatar well.
Amarr - I have trouble picturing a shotgun for the Amarr, this is one that I'm the absolute least qualified to speculate on in ANY constructive manner, but let's try; Just for kicks, wouldn't it be neat if the Amarr had one weapon that was incredibly high damage, short range, and imprecise? I'd like to see the Amarr shotgun be a flechette launcher, shorter effective range than the Gallente shotgun, with a very wide spread, possibly only a one- or two-shot weapon. This doesn't sound like it fits with Amarr weapon philosophy, and for all I know Amarr don't use anything that isn't a laser, but I like to picture it as the perfect counter-point to the flaws in Amarr weapons, and would couple nice on a Commando suit paired with a laser rifle.
So far we have three light AV weapons
Minmatar Mass Driver
Caldari Swarm Launcher
Gallente Plasma Cannon
Is the Amarr Laser Rifle designed to match with these sort-of odd weapons, or will Amarr also get a light AV weapon? Will the Laser Rifle be buffed against vehicle shields?
We also have three Grenade types
Caldari Anti Vehicle Grenades
Gallente Flux Grenades
Locus Grenades - Are Locus Grenades Minmatar or Amarr? Minmatar makes considerably more sense to me but I can't find evidence for it in the naming of the grenades, but this would leave room for an...
Amarr Light Grenade, which would make a decent flashbang, but I'm sure a bit of thought could give us a more intriguing weapon.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:50:00 -
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I believe the LR, MD, and Plasma cannon are considered their specialized weapons. Sniper rifle might fall into this category as well?
Locus grenades are manufactored by CORE, a minmatar company.
As for a minmatar shotgun I could see them with something that mimics a pump action. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3184
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:51:00 -
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An Amarr shot gun is just too weird to imagine.
Though we could make use of Flayerguns. Like Amarr Flayer mines they fire a small projectile that detonates before the target, exposing long monofilament wires that slice through flesh and bone. I imagine that to be more like an elephant gun style weapon, we are an empire after all (ouwwwl and I would pronounce it) with a two shot fire cap, or a one shot charge one before over heat and reloading. High Alpha and low dps. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1324
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Posted - 2013.10.16 21:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:An Amarr shot gun is just too weird to imagine.
I second that. I feel like the battle philosophy is a bit off for the weapon. Shotguns are short range messy weapons that not precise. A complete 180 from distance and precision. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:00:00 -
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I imagine the amarr shotgun is a microwave array and that just anything in the 'bubble' just get set on fire. From what I understand the following classes of weapons are
Pistols
SMGs
Rifles
Sniper Rifles
Launchers
Heavy Anti-vehicle
Heavy Anti-infantry.
Grenades
I could be wrong because the laser rifle fits nowhere here. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1324
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I imagine the amarr shotgun is a microwave array and that just anything in the 'bubble' just get set on fire.
Horrible burning death? Sounds in line with Amarr standards. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3187
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:02:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:True Adamance wrote:An Amarr shot gun is just too weird to imagine. I second that. I feel like the battle philosophy is a bit off for the weapon. Shotguns are short range messy weapons that not precise. A complete 180 from distance and precision.
Messy is for your people.
We Amarr prefer to do things elegantly. |
Tellot
DUST University
Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:06:00 -
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On the Amarr shotgun, how about a pulse laser, SMG like or faster rate of fire, high damage, and extremely short range and very dispersed shots |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1197
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I imagine the amarr shotgun is a microwave array and that just anything in the 'bubble' just get set on fire. From what I understand the following classes of weapons are
Pistols
SMGs
Rifles
Sniper Rifles
Launchers
Heavy Anti-vehicle
Heavy Anti-infantry.
Grenades
I could be wrong because the laser rifle fits nowhere here.
Amarr Sniper? |
Brynjar Reko
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:28:00 -
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I like the ideas thrown out for the Amarr shotgun, particularly the microwave idea: how about instead of having ammo it's just something like a 30 degree, 10 meter long cone that the "shotgun" heats up. The damage would start minuscule and ramp up like the laser rifle but a bit more quickly, and then overheat. Pretty much just a wide-focus laser rifle. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3192
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Posted - 2013.10.17 00:11:00 -
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Tellot wrote:On the Amarr shotgun, how about a pulse laser, SMG like or faster rate of fire, high damage, and extremely short range and very dispersed shots
We have a Pulse Laser, its the ScR and AScR.
Howver yeah I get that.
Hold on a sec I have a great Idea for a short range Amarr weapon.
Prism Laser- Basically it acts like a pulse laser in that it discharges laser beams, but into a prism matrix where the beams are refracted and released as a shotgun burst. Without focusing the gun the beams lack substance and disperse at short range, but focused the beam become more tightly packed and fire tightly and do not lose heat so quickly.
Basically this gun charges up all the time, you can choose how far you want to shoot.
Instant fire is low dispersion
Charged Fire is Longer range tighter packed.
Again low shot per reload, low heat ceiling, 5 uncharged shots at most, 2 charged at most. |
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