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Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12	Posted - 2013.10.16 15:00:00 - [1] - Quote I mean really. I've only messed around with sniping a bit, but is seems that the charge sniper got over-nerfed, no? It's probably still powerful, but doesn't making it proto only and expensive as a decent LAV only encourage redline sniping? I mean, regardless of the suit that you use, you instantly loose 50,000 ISK upon death with the thing. Was it really that OP? Couldn't they just make it advanced/proto rather than just proto?
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 654	Posted - 2013.10.16 15:12:00 - [2] - Quote Put 3 complex damage mods with lvl 5 damage proficiency and you're looking at a one shot kill weapon compareable to thales. You can one shot most 500 eHP players with a bodyshot while dealing very heavy damage on the highest hp builds in the game with a headshot. Dont think charge sniper rifle was ever nerfed other than being made a prototype lvl 5 weapon with prototype price. Snipers are honestly the least likely to die vs people with prototype shotguns and ARs. Just make sure you have enough eHP to take counter sniper shots. Edit: I think they increased the cpu/pg requirement from standard to prototype level but thats all I remember.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3935	Posted - 2013.10.16 15:32:00 - [3] - Quote It wasn't really nerfed... The damage on it was actually increased IIRC. Also, if you're dying much as a sniper you're doing it wrong.
Moonrocks Stars Protect Systems Incorporation 1	Posted - 2013.10.16 15:53:00 - [4] - Quote with less skill charge sniper aren't enough Rof ( rate of fire ) to kill a moving target , but yep with some good skill and mod you can OS assault . so i prefer use tactical snip ( less amoo ( 3) but large loader ( 30 ammo) lot of and good Rof for shoot target in 2-3 bullet if you are not bad sniper your ration Kill/dead are positive and price of set are not a problem
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 702	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:01:00 - [5] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: I mean really. I've only messed around with sniping a bit, but is seems that the charge sniper got over-nerfed, no? It's probably still powerful, but doesn't making it proto only and expensive as a decent LAV only encourage redline sniping? I mean, regardless of the suit that you use, you instantly loose 50,000 ISK upon death with the thing. Was it really that OP? Couldn't they just make it advanced/proto rather than just proto? yeah, they're really that tough. one of our guys bought thousands of them while they were 2000 isk or whatever
lrian Locust We Who Walk Alone 214	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:37:00 - [6] - Quote Doc Noah wrote: Put 3 complex damage mods with lvl 5 damage proficiency and you're looking at a one shot kill weapon compareable to thales. You can one shot most 500 eHP players with a bodyshot while dealing very heavy damage on the highest hp builds in the game with a headshot.. The shots will be as powerful as the Thales, but the Thales has many advantages: - Higher zoom (Charge Sniper Rifle has lower zoom) - Ability to double tap (while CSR has to charge) - No need for the damage mods Getting a headshot with a CSR is a lot harder than with a tactical, or a Thales!
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 717	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:49:00 - [7] - Quote Thale is still better. No need to wait as I listen to that god awful vacuum charge sound to make a shot,
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 46	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:52:00 - [8] - Quote lrian Locust wrote: Doc Noah wrote: Put 3 complex damage mods with lvl 5 damage proficiency and you're looking at a one shot kill weapon compareable to thales. You can one shot most 500 eHP players with a bodyshot while dealing very heavy damage on the highest hp builds in the game with a headshot.. The shots will be as powerful as the Thales, but the Thales has many advantages: - Higher zoom (Charge Sniper Rifle has lower zoom) - Ability to double tap (while CSR has to charge) - No need for the damage mods Getting a headshot with a CSR is a lot harder than with a tactical, or a Thales! Because damage mods are percentage based, you actually get more benefit from them as you move up the sniper rifle food chain. A Thales with 3+ damage mods is really the only viable option in PC. You can do as much damage with a charge, but you won't hit enough head shots to control an area and you can't shoot fast enough to stop coordinated hacks or hit follow up shots for non-headshot kills.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1139	Posted - 2013.10.16 17:23:00 - [9] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: I mean really. I've only messed around with sniping a bit, but is seems that the charge sniper got over-nerfed, no? It's probably still powerful, but doesn't making it proto only and expensive as a decent LAV only encourage redline sniping? I mean, regardless of the suit that you use, you instantly loose 50,000 ISK upon death with the thing. Was it really that OP? Couldn't they just make it advanced/proto rather than just proto? Because all proto tier weapons are expensive basically and in skilled hands the only better sniper for one shots is a thales.
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13	Posted - 2013.10.16 17:36:00 - [10] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Humble Seeker wrote: I mean really. I've only messed around with sniping a bit, but is seems that the charge sniper got over-nerfed, no? It's probably still powerful, but doesn't making it proto only and expensive as a decent LAV only encourage redline sniping? I mean, regardless of the suit that you use, you instantly loose 50,000 ISK upon death with the thing. Was it really that OP? Couldn't they just make it advanced/proto rather than just proto? Because all proto tier weapons are expensive basically and in skilled hands the only better sniper for one shots is a thales. So if I start a sniping alt just for funsies, are there any recommended starter fits? Preferably usable with the starting 500k SP?

CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 346	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:18:00 - [11] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Humble Seeker wrote: I mean really. I've only messed around with sniping a bit, but is seems that the charge sniper got over-nerfed, no? It's probably still powerful, but doesn't making it proto only and expensive as a decent LAV only encourage redline sniping? I mean, regardless of the suit that you use, you instantly loose 50,000 ISK upon death with the thing. Was it really that OP? Couldn't they just make it advanced/proto rather than just proto? Because all proto tier weapons are expensive basically and in skilled hands the only better sniper for one shots is a thales. So if I start a sniping alt just for funsies, are there any recommended starter fits? Preferably usable with the starting 500k SP? Not really man all you can do is get advanced level sniper rifles and maybe some damage mods but then probably not a good enough suit to put more than 1 basic damage mod on. Could be wrong, just train sniper rifle on your main, I already have damage mods (enhanced i think) with a proto logi suit so just train sniper rifle and then (in my situation) you've automatically got a suit to fit 5 damage mods and uplinks/hives.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1045	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:32:00 - [12] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: I mean really. I've only messed around with sniping a bit, but is seems that the charge sniper got over-nerfed, no? It's probably still powerful, but doesn't making it proto only and expensive as a decent LAV only encourage redline sniping? I mean, regardless of the suit that you use, you instantly loose 50,000 ISK upon death with the thing. Was it really that OP? Couldn't they just make it advanced/proto rather than just proto? Because it's an extremely powerful gun?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3177	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:33:00 - [13] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: I mean really. I've only messed around with sniping a bit, but is seems that the charge sniper got over-nerfed, no? It's probably still powerful, but doesn't making it proto only and expensive as a decent LAV only encourage redline sniping? I mean, regardless of the suit that you use, you instantly loose 50,000 ISK upon death with the thing. Was it really that OP? Couldn't they just make it advanced/proto rather than just proto? As the other posters have said its due to some players being able to hit for huge massive damage.
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 45	Posted - 2013.10.16 19:43:00 - [14] - Quote Played against a dude the other night that went went >30/0 with a Charge. I've never seen anyone that fast and accurate with one. Normally, you'd think "Charge sniper, I've got a sec..." dead.
Vitharr Foebane Blood Money Mercenaries 132	Posted - 2013.10.16 19:48:00 - [15] - Quote killed a guy twice who was using charge with my lolmando using a standard tac sniper. it was quite satisfying.
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 30	Posted - 2013.10.16 19:59:00 - [16] - Quote Two days before CCP decided to create parity between the Proto Sniper Rifles, I bought 250 of them for, what, 2k a piece. No idea why, I just had a feeling it would pay off. I've started to use the recently, and even I can kill people. I find them to be pretty dang powerful with limited proficiency and damage mods. They put out too much damage to lower the price.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9484	Posted - 2013.10.16 20:05:00 - [17] - Quote Nowhere near using a charge rifle yet but tactical can kill most with three center mass shots


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