Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
50
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 04:37:00 -
[1] - Quote
Exactly what was on your minds when you wrote in the Sentinel bonus? Because right now, it has literally nothing to do with either of the two heavy weapons, or just playing a sentinel in general. So this is really just a direct question for you guys, what was the thought process? Is it for something in the future? Is it an oversight that you just haven't gotten around to correcting yet? Perhaps I'm being a bit too presumptuous, but after having to deal with it for so long (as it's the only available Sentinel suit), I feel that us heavies kinda deserve to know. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
50
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 22:53:00 -
[2] - Quote
Still waiting for a blue tag. |
Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
427
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 22:55:00 -
[3] - Quote
$$Money$$ |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2049
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 22:58:00 -
[4] - Quote
"What were you thinking" in an inflammatory statement, desptie your title which seems to indicate you weren't trying to attack anyone. Not surprised the Devs haven't answered. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1818
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:03:00 -
[5] - Quote
If you check one of the stickys in the feedback section, the devs once expressed their admiration for "zealot" variants of laser-based weaponry. These would be weapons with feedback damage that, instead of jamming upon overheat, would allow continuous fire after overheat at the cost of increasing feedback damage.
If a heavy weapon fit that category, the Amarr sentinel's bonuses would be fantastic. For now, they're an idle promise at best, and an insult to our patience at worst. |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z
279
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:03:00 -
[6] - Quote
What do you mean? its an amarr suit so the bonus is to do with an amarr heavy weapon (obviously) and the reload bonus is great, seriously the sentinel suit is great, its a pity all the HMG heavies just suck |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
50
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:21:00 -
[7] - Quote
Forlorn Destrier wrote:"What were you thinking" in an inflammatory statement, despite your title which seems to indicate you weren't trying to attack anyone. Not surprised the Devs haven't answered.
I guess it's a good thing I never used that statement then. Please read the entire post before commenting.
Chunky Munkey wrote:If you check one of the stickys in the feedback section, the devs once expressed their admiration for "zealot" variants of laser-based weaponry. These would be weapons with feedback damage that, instead of jamming upon overheat, would allow continuous fire after overheat at the cost of increasing feedback damage.
This is definitely a possibility, although it would be pretty shortsighted to have the bonus only apply to a certain variant of a certain weapon that still doesn't exist. I can appreciate the speculation, but of course I'd still like a confirmation from a Dev.
demonkiller 12 wrote:What do you mean? its an amarr suit so the bonus is to do with an amarr heavy weapon (obviously) and the reload bonus is great, seriously the sentinel suit is great, its a pity all the HMG heavies just suck
Actually, go look again, it's the standard Sentinel bonus that gives the reduction to weapon feedback damage, and the Amarr Sentinel bonus is for reload speed. I have no real issues with the suit itself, but the bonus does leave something to be desired. But thanks for establishing the size of your ego, I probably couldn't have made it through the day without knowing how awesome you are.
|
DildoMcnutz
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
285
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:35:00 -
[8] - Quote
Why did they make the sentinel bonus the way it is? The same reason most of the other suits have super awesome well thought out bonus's, When CCP are brainstorming they all sit in a big circle and pass the company crack pipe around. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
330
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:38:00 -
[9] - Quote
Summ Dude wrote:Exactly what was on your minds when you wrote in the Sentinel bonus? Because right now, it has literally nothing to do with either of the two heavy weapons, or just playing a sentinel in general. So this is really just a direct question for you guys, what was the thought process? Is it for something in the future? Is it an oversight that you just haven't gotten around to correcting yet? Perhaps I'm being a bit too presumptuous, but after having to deal with it for so long (as it's the only available Sentinel suit), I feel that us heavies kinda deserve to know.
Lets get down to the real problem here: Amarr suit Minmatar weapon. *shakes his head* who in there right mind though this was a good idea? |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2053
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:48:00 -
[10] - Quote
Summ Dude wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:"What were you thinking" in an inflammatory statement, despite your title which seems to indicate you weren't trying to attack anyone. Not surprised the Devs haven't answered. I guess it's a good thing I never used that statement then. Please read the entire post before commenting. Chunky Munkey wrote:If you check one of the stickys in the feedback section, the devs once expressed their admiration for "zealot" variants of laser-based weaponry. These would be weapons with feedback damage that, instead of jamming upon overheat, would allow continuous fire after overheat at the cost of increasing feedback damage. This is definitely a possibility, although it would be pretty shortsighted to have the bonus only apply to a certain variant of a certain weapon that still doesn't exist. I can appreciate the speculation, but of course I'd still like a confirmation from a Dev. demonkiller 12 wrote:What do you mean? its an amarr suit so the bonus is to do with an amarr heavy weapon (obviously) and the reload bonus is great, seriously the sentinel suit is great, its a pity all the HMG heavies just suck Actually, go look again, it's the standard Sentinel bonus that gives the reduction to weapon feedback damage, and the Amarr Sentinel bonus is for reload speed. I have no real issues with the suit itself, but the bonus does leave something to be desired. But thanks for establishing the size of your ego, I probably couldn't have made it through the day without knowing how awesome you are.
The words were different, yes, but the tone was exactly the same - inflammatory. And I did read the entire post - your ideas, while not new, are still valid, but it doesn't change the fact that your post was passive aggressive. |
|
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
51
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:52:00 -
[11] - Quote
Ignoble Son wrote:Lets get down to the real problem here: Amarr suit Minmatar weapon. *shakes his head* who in there right mind though this was a good idea?
I'mGǪnot sure that's the 'real' problem, of course it is annoying from a lore perspective, something I know CCP is generally very big on. |
Stevez WingYip
Operation Wolf Pack
6
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 23:59:00 -
[12] - Quote
Summ Dude wrote:Exactly what was on your minds when you wrote in the Sentinel bonus? Because right now, it has literally nothing to do with either of the two heavy weapons, or just playing a sentinel in general. So this is really just a direct question for you guys, what was the thought process? Is it for something in the future? Is it an oversight that you just haven't gotten around to correcting yet? Perhaps I'm being a bit too presumptuous, but after having to deal with it for so long (as it's the only available Sentinel suit), I feel that us heavies kinda deserve to know.
The amarr heavy weapon is not out yet and that is what this suit is designed for I would assume. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1817
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 00:05:00 -
[13] - Quote
Summ Dude wrote:Exactly what was on your minds when you wrote in the Sentinel bonus? Because right now, it has literally nothing to do with either of the two heavy weapons, or just playing a sentinel in general. So this is really just a direct question for you guys, what was the thought process? Is it for something in the future? Is it an oversight that you just haven't gotten around to correcting yet? Perhaps I'm being a bit too presumptuous, but after having to deal with it for so long (as it's the only available Sentinel suit), I feel that us heavies kinda deserve to know.
I WILL ASSUME, that the heavy Amarr weapon will have as a Drawback constant Feedback damage :
Example= GÖª X3 times The Laser Rifles damage GÖª X3 times The Laser Rifles range GÖª But for every second the weapon is being used the user gets a 15-25 HP damage per second as a penalty (Because its very hot or what not) GÖª a Reload speed of 4 secs
So there: With sentinel bonuses The AMarr Heavy laser rifle would do instead of 15-25 damage per sec 12-20 damage per sec and would reload at 3 secs instead of 4. Its no news Amarrian Dropsuits are specificly designed to carry amarrian weapons. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
53
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 04:09:00 -
[14] - Quote
King, we really need to have a talk some time about your constant overuse of bold and italics. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
56
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 23:11:00 -
[15] - Quote
Still waiting for a blue tag. |
Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
314
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 23:39:00 -
[16] - Quote
Summ Dude wrote:Still waiting for a blue tag. Its probably never going to come. Thinking the devs give a dam is very optimistic. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
57
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 00:05:00 -
[17] - Quote
Thurak1 wrote:Its probably never going to come. Thinking the devs give a dam is very optimistic.
You could very well be right, but it takes almost no effort to ask. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
58
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 05:31:00 -
[18] - Quote
Still waiting for a blue tag. |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
136
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 06:04:00 -
[19] - Quote
Summ Dude wrote:Still waiting for a blue tag. Keep fighting the good fight... |
BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
94
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 07:34:00 -
[20] - Quote
I'll bump this for the cat's sake. |
|
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
455
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 09:09:00 -
[21] - Quote
demonkiller 12 wrote:What do you mean? its an amarr suit so the bonus is to do with an amarr heavy weapon (obviously) and the reload bonus is great, seriously the sentinel suit is great, its a pity all the HMG heavies just suck The ammar bonus is the 2% faster reload, the sentinal skill (the one all sentinals will get) is the feedback damage. It makes no sence. Even if they wanted a skill for a heavy lazer weapon a slower heat build up would have made alot more sence. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
61
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 17:46:00 -
[22] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Keep fighting the good fight...
BrownEye1129 wrote:I'll bump this for the cat's sake.
I appreciate the support guys. |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
299
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 18:02:00 -
[23] - Quote
As the logibro to this heavy, I support this thread. |
Ion Crush
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
143
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 18:32:00 -
[24] - Quote
I agree with this message. And these other 2 guys.
Though I am surprised at how many people still don't know that it's the sentinel suit bonus that reduces feedback damage and the amarr bonus to reload speed.
This would mean that ALL RACIAL heavy suits will have reduced feedback damage. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
66
|
Posted - 2013.10.19 00:46:00 -
[25] - Quote
Ion Crush wrote:Though I am surprised at how many people still don't know that it's the sentinel suit bonus that reduces feedback damage and the Amarr bonus to reload speed.
Well, to be fair, it is pretty counter intuitive. But I guess that's the kind of thing that happens when a dropsuit's bonus has virtually no use. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
69
|
Posted - 2013.10.19 16:26:00 -
[26] - Quote
Still waiting for a blue tag. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
845
|
Posted - 2013.10.19 16:43:00 -
[27] - Quote
I feel like I wasted 500k sp on a pointless frame with only 2 weapons, soo here I am waiting on an respec. |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
346
|
Posted - 2013.10.19 16:50:00 -
[28] - Quote
The Sentinel bonus is for the upcoming Heavy Laser weapon. CCP stated awhile back the reason for the bonus is that they are consistently looking at the big picture when developing, hence the Amarr Sentinel suit having a bonus to an Amarrian weapon. (as a Heavy from when i first started a year ago, It has been a very difficult wait for our proper weapon to be developed.)
I'd also like to note to people who still don't seem to understand the other bonus, the reload speed. It is not 2% reload speed per level. It's a flat 2% reload speed. There is one other suit in the game with this same ridiculously under powered bonus.
Also OP, I'm not sure why you feel like your question is so important to warrant a dev response. It's old news, that was already covered and explained by CCP in the past. You being fairly new doesn't make your "questions that have already been answered" a top priority. Not to mention people have already posted in your thread the answer to your question. The answers you scoffed at because it wasn't a blue tag.
So now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
|
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
346
|
Posted - 2013.10.19 17:02:00 -
[29] - Quote
Ion Crush wrote:I agree with this message. And these other 2 guys.
Though I am surprised at how many people still don't know that it's the sentinel suit bonus that reduces feedback damage and the Amarr bonus to reload speed.
This would mean that ALL RACIAL heavy suits will have reduced feedback damage, not just the Amarr suit for the Amarr heavy weapon.
One can only assume (or hope rather) that when all racial variants come out for each suit, they will change the race specific bonuses towards their respective races weapons. Feedback dmg reduction on a Minmatar suit wouldn't make much sense.
But currently there isn't a need to diversify since there isn't much diversity to begin with. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
70
|
Posted - 2013.10.19 18:30:00 -
[30] - Quote
Duran Lex wrote:The Sentinel bonus is for the upcoming Heavy Laser weapon. CCP stated awhile back the reason for the bonus is that they are consistently looking at the big picture when developing, hence the Amarr Sentinel suit having a bonus to an Amarrian weapon. (as a Heavy from when i first started a year ago, It has been a very difficult wait for our proper weapon to be developed.)
I'd also like to note to people who still don't seem to understand the other bonus, the reload speed. It is not 2% reload speed per level. It's a flat 2% reload speed. There is one other suit in the game with this same ridiculously under powered bonus.
Also OP, I'm not sure why you feel like your question is so important to warrant a dev response. It's old news, that was already covered and explained by CCP in the past. You being fairly new doesn't make your "questions that have already been answered" a top priority. Not to mention people have already posted in your thread the answer to your question. The answers you scoffed at because it wasn't a blue tag.
So now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
Ok so as has been said multiple times, the weapon feedback damage bonus is the general Sentinel bonus, which makes no sense even when 'looking at the big picture'.
This has already been covered by CCP? When exactly? Got a link? This question 'deserves to be answered' because I can't see the logic behind it, and I'd like to know what it is. If there was something in mind when they made this bonus than answering shouldn't be a very challenging task. |
|
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
346
|
Posted - 2013.10.20 00:33:00 -
[31] - Quote
Summ Dude wrote:Duran Lex wrote:The Sentinel bonus is for the upcoming Heavy Laser weapon. CCP stated awhile back the reason for the bonus is that they are consistently looking at the big picture when developing, hence the Amarr Sentinel suit having a bonus to an Amarrian weapon. (as a Heavy from when i first started a year ago, It has been a very difficult wait for our proper weapon to be developed.)
I'd also like to note to people who still don't seem to understand the other bonus, the reload speed. It is not 2% reload speed per level. It's a flat 2% reload speed. There is one other suit in the game with this same ridiculously under powered bonus.
Also OP, I'm not sure why you feel like your question is so important to warrant a dev response. It's old news, that was already covered and explained by CCP in the past. You being fairly new doesn't make your "questions that have already been answered" a top priority. Not to mention people have already posted in your thread the answer to your question. The answers you scoffed at because it wasn't a blue tag.
So now you know, and knowing is half the battle. Ok so as has been said multiple times, the weapon feedback damage bonus is the general Sentinel bonus, which makes no sense even when 'looking at the big picture'. This has already been covered by CCP? When exactly? Got a link? This question 'deserves to be answered' because I can't see the logic behind it, and I'd like to know what it is. If there was something in mind when they made this bonus than answering shouldn't be a very challenging task.
That's because you actually aren't looking at the big picture.
There are hellof a lot weapons on CCP's plans to eventually be released. Since currently the Amarr Sentinel is the only suit that's out for the Heavy dropsuit, and within the next couple of months (hopefully) a new Heavy Weapon laser is coming out , the bonus will make sense then.
Racial dropsuits were put high up on the shelf of things to develop. More then likely we won't see them for another 6 months at the very least. They are "fixing" core gameplay mechanics atm...and the next 3 months are towards vehicles/AV rework.
Since racial dropsuits aren't coming out in such a long time, and the Amarr is the only Racial suit available, the Sentinels general bonus being the feedback damage reduction makes sense (or will once the Heavy Laser is released).
Upon speculation of the way they are developing this game and how they developed Eve, we have a hopeful assumption that once all racial dropsuits are available, they will tailor each general bonus towards that specific race's weapons. After all, feedback damage reduction would be entirely useless for a Minmatar Heavy, that will assuredly have a bonus towards the HMG.
Or with completely opposite speculation, they might eventually introduce Heavy Weapons of each race that all have weapon feedback damage and then the general bonus would make sense far into the future. CCP hasn't let us know anything about that, cause well...we don't need to know, It's not even close to being released. What we do know is that the Sentinel feedback bonus is for the new Heavy Laser, as stated in the past by CCP. I can't help you beyond that.
And no, I don't feel like scouring the forums for a link. Though If more then one person in your thread having the same answer means nothing to you, then i guess goodluck on getting that dev response. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4115
|
Posted - 2013.10.20 00:37:00 -
[32] - Quote
DildoMcnutz wrote:Why did they make the sentinel bonus the way it is? The same reason most of the other suits have super awesome well thought out bonus's, When CCP are brainstorming they all sit in a big circle and pass the company crack pipe around.
Pass d dutchie pon d left hand side
Which funny enough might be their anthem |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
70
|
Posted - 2013.10.20 06:01:00 -
[33] - Quote
Still waiting for a blue tag. |
Summ Dude
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
70
|
Posted - 2013.10.20 21:09:00 -
[34] - Quote
Still waiting for a blue tag. |
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 :: [one page] |