DUST Search - Idea for ammo system

Olomo Daygon wrote:

Takron Nistrom wrote:

Dont want to use an equip slot? Just load one type at default and use it. The first tier ammo pack might hold one type while advanced would hold 3 and proto 5. Since ammo is refilled with nano hives, the packs would just offer the different types of ammo and it is refilled in your weapon. If you die, you lose the ammo vouchers of sorts you had in your pack, like a sub item for the ammo packs.

As an Eve and Dust player I initially approve of this. I would love to put in Uranium rounds in my rifle and get that extra damage boost in close quarters or switch to Iron rounds for that extra range. If they used the https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Hybrid_Charges:Standard_Charges:Small
same thing as this for the ammo types it would be AWESOME.
HOWEVER.... with Dust 514 being geared for the more casual player this would be too confusing and a total turn off form the game.

Don't get me wrong I approve of this post but in this venue it wont work... and i don't see how to get it to work.

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Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. 88	Posted - 2013.10.16 00:00:00 - [1] - Quote I was thinking of the range issues ppl talk about with weapons and how without ammo swapping, it doesnt quite feel right to me. So here is my idea. Make weapons accept the same small ammo types as all the other weapon systems in Eve, Hybrid, crystals, missiles, projectile, etc. Being able to swap ammo will be able to allow you to change your ranges and damage mid match. When you make a loadout, you can choose what ammo type is loaded by default. To take other ammo with you, and to make it something to buy, you can have an Ammo Pack item. Various types can have varied swap times and storage capacities. It would take up an equipment slot and just select it and up would pop your ammo choices you have loaded. Select the one you want and it loads into your gun. Dont want to use an equip slot? Just load one type at default and use it. The first tier ammo pack might hold one type while advanced would hold 3 and proto 5. Since ammo is refilled with nano hives, the packs would just offer the different types of ammo and it is refilled in your weapon. If you die, you lose the ammo vouchers of sorts you had in your pack, like a sub item for the ammo packs.
Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. 89	Posted - 2013.10.16 14:03:00 - [2] - Quote Bump
Olomo Daygon ZionTCD 3	Posted - 2013.10.16 15:33:00 - [3] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Dont want to use an equip slot? Just load one type at default and use it. The first tier ammo pack might hold one type while advanced would hold 3 and proto 5. Since ammo is refilled with nano hives, the packs would just offer the different types of ammo and it is refilled in your weapon. If you die, you lose the ammo vouchers of sorts you had in your pack, like a sub item for the ammo packs. As an Eve and Dust player I initially approve of this. I would love to put in Uranium rounds in my rifle and get that extra damage boost in close quarters or switch to Iron rounds for that extra range. If they used the https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Hybrid_Charges:Standard_Charges:Small same thing as this for the ammo types it would be AWESOME. HOWEVER.... with Dust 514 being geared for the more casual player this would be too confusing and a total turn off form the game. Don't get me wrong I approve of this post but in this venue it wont work... and i don't see how to get it to work.
DJINN Jecture Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 63	Posted - 2013.10.16 20:11:00 - [4] - Quote This has been suggested before and I will continue to believe this is a good idea. Casual players come and go from all sorts of games, lets give them something unique to come back to.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1986	Posted - 2013.10.16 20:37:00 - [5] - Quote I just want to rock a six man rainbow laser squad...
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 308	Posted - 2013.10.17 00:31:00 - [6] - Quote This really seems like a good idea. I would especially like something for forg guns to transform them from say anti vehicle to anti infantry. Have 1 type of ammo that does far less damage but has a bigger splash radius and another type that does great damage but has a very small radius. Of course for a heavy switching ammo would mean going to the supply depot since they have no equipment slots.
Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. 92	Posted - 2013.10.17 01:05:00 - [7] - Quote Maybe just switch ammo at the depots
Arc-08 Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 114	Posted - 2013.10.17 01:09:00 - [8] - Quote one question though, if you had an ammo pack for hybrid ammo, and an ammo pack for say railgun ammo, then would you get a full clip of each ammo. so say it's an SMG would you get 480 of raingun and 480 of hybrid, or would it be split somhow so you only get 480 total ammo still. But good idea, i like it!!!
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 309	Posted - 2013.10.17 02:40:00 - [9] - Quote What do we do to get some CCP attention to this idea? I know its something that would take some work but its very much well worth doing. Would be very useful on many weapons to be able to change out the ammo type rather than changing out your entire fitting to suit the conditions on the BF.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 75	Posted - 2013.10.17 02:49:00 - [10] - Quote Olomo Daygon wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: Dont want to use an equip slot? Just load one type at default and use it. The first tier ammo pack might hold one type while advanced would hold 3 and proto 5. Since ammo is refilled with nano hives, the packs would just offer the different types of ammo and it is refilled in your weapon. If you die, you lose the ammo vouchers of sorts you had in your pack, like a sub item for the ammo packs. As an Eve and Dust player I initially approve of this. I would love to put in Uranium rounds in my rifle and get that extra damage boost in close quarters or switch to Iron rounds for that extra range. If they used the https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Hybrid_Charges:Standard_Charges:Small same thing as this for the ammo types it would be AWESOME. HOWEVER.... with Dust 514 being geared for the more casual player this would be too confusing and a total turn off form the game. Don't get me wrong I approve of this post but in this venue it wont work... and i don't see how to get it to work. I think it will work,but once they have the long awaited customization for weapons

Niuvo The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance 614	Posted - 2013.10.17 08:47:00 - [11] - Quote I like the idea of swapping ammo to better deal with the enemy.
Zero Roamero NaphBlade 15	Posted - 2013.10.17 09:17:00 - [12] - Quote Wouldn't that be considered OP? You do realize there are trolls playing the game too, right? If new players were given a hard enough time because of this the DUST 514 won't do so well.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1199	Posted - 2013.10.17 10:21:00 - [13] - Quote Zero Roamero wrote: Wouldn't that be considered OP? You do realize there are trolls playing the game too, right? If new players were given a hard enough time because of this the DUST 514 won't do so well. Never balance over idiots.
mystus no1 Industrie und Handels Konsortium Tribunal Alliance 15	Posted - 2013.10.17 11:50:00 - [14] - Quote Different ammo types should be considered +1
Geovexen Team Bitch-Slap 30	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:15:00 - [15] - Quote +1 i don't like the equipment slot usage though (logi here). since each weapon has a max ammo(w/ skills) you would just have a slot/menu for ammo loadout. then you load up your ammo composition within this menu. changing ammo could work like squad orders. in the weapon menu hover the weapon then hit R3 to change to ammo view. select your ammo and you will change to that ammo on next reload.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1491	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:54:00 - [16] - Quote Arc-08 wrote: one question though, if you had an ammo pack for hybrid ammo, and an ammo pack for say railgun ammo, then would you get a full clip of each ammo. so say it's an SMG would you get 480 of raingun and 480 of hybrid, or would it be split somhow so you only get 480 total ammo still. But good idea, i like it!!! Guessing the ammo switcher (probably an equipment item) will simply tell the nanite store in your dropsuit to form a certain type of ammunition. So essentially, your ammo is nanites which is replenished by nanohives, and the maximum amount of nanites determines how much ammo you have not what ammo type you're using. If that makes sense. And +1, it's a cool idea. At the very least should be put on the SOON^tm list.
Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. 97	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:10:00 - [17] - Quote Arc-08 wrote: one question though, if you had an ammo pack for hybrid ammo, and an ammo pack for say railgun ammo, then would you get a full clip of each ammo. so say it's an SMG would you get 480 of raingun and 480 of hybrid, or would it be split somhow so you only get 480 total ammo still. But good idea, i like it!!! Thats why the higher tier packs support more rounds, so u can carry for more weapons.
Zero Roamero NaphBlade 15	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:39:00 - [18] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Zero Roamero wrote: Wouldn't that be considered OP? You do realize there are trolls playing the game too, right? If new players were given a hard enough time because of this the DUST 514 won't do so well. Never balance over idiots. I never said balance over idiots. I'm just saying consider the possibility of it being overused too much. And who are you calling idiots? You want this game to stay, don't you? And new players are important, too. You can't rule that out.
Takron Nistrom eHarmony Inc. 97	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:46:00 - [19] - Quote Zero Roamero wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Zero Roamero wrote: Wouldn't that be considered OP? You do realize there are trolls playing the game too, right? If new players were given a hard enough time because of this the DUST 514 won't do so well. Never balance over idiots. I never said balance over idiots. I'm just saying consider the possibility of it being overused too much. And who are you calling idiots? He was saying do not cater to the weak links. You cannot base a game mechanic on if it will not be understood by some. As far as overused? How? Changing ammo is a regular mechanic in Eve. It would be a much needed tool in Dust I believe.


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