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Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 0	Posted - 2013.10.15 20:08:00 - [1] - Quote Recently I've noticed that my rounds don't always damage the enemy. Yesterday in particular it seemed to be happening pretty often. I have no video unfortunately, but I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this? It could be lag, so I'm not actually hitting the targets I think I am (I seem to be able to hit myself with the blast often enough ), but I've noticed a huge decrease in MD usage since 1.4, and I wonder if it's not just the Aim Assist for rifles that's driving the masses away (see what I did there?).
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 611	Posted - 2013.10.15 22:23:00 - [2] - Quote Icarus DelSol wrote: Recently I've noticed that my rounds don't always damage the enemy. Yesterday in particular it seemed to be happening pretty often. I have no video unfortunately, but I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this? It could be lag, so I'm not actually hitting the targets I think I am (I seem to be able to hit myself with the blast often enough ), but I've noticed a huge decrease in MD usage since 1.4, and I wonder if it's not just the Aim Assist for rifles that's driving the masses away (see what I did there?). If you aren't getting hit markers with a Mass Driver, you're doing it wrong. The MD is so easy to use, it's not even funny. Getting hits are easy, it's getting kills that separate the boys from the men. With proper skills, you can get that gun to have over 5m blast radius. That means you can miss by about 15 feet and still get a hit. Crazy huh?
I AM TacoBueno Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2013.10.17 01:12:00 - [3] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Icarus DelSol wrote: Recently I've noticed that my rounds don't always damage the enemy. Yesterday in particular it seemed to be happening pretty often. I have no video unfortunately, but I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this? It could be lag, so I'm not actually hitting the targets I think I am (I seem to be able to hit myself with the blast often enough ), but I've noticed a huge decrease in MD usage since 1.4, and I wonder if it's not just the Aim Assist for rifles that's driving the masses away (see what I did there?). If you aren't getting hit markers with a Mass Driver, you're doing it wrong. The MD is so easy to use, it's not even funny. Getting hits are easy, it's getting kills that separate the boys from the men. With proper skills, you can get that gun to have over 5m blast radius. That means you can miss by about 15 feet and still get a hit. Crazy huh? Nah dude, you want blast radius? Use the assault MD, it has a 6.30m blast radius. On top of that, with Mass Driver Operation level 5 you get 25% more blast radius. 6.30 x .25 = 1.575 + 6.30 = 7.875m blast radius :D The assault does have lower splash damage, but a higher fire rate.
Cosgar ParagonX 6120	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:11:00 - [4] - Quote I've been noticing this too. Grenades going through targets again and even a few show going through the ground without an explosion. Not as bad as 1.0-1.1, but still annoying when every shot counts.
Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 0	Posted - 2013.10.17 15:08:00 - [5] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Icarus DelSol wrote: Recently I've noticed that my rounds don't always damage the enemy. Yesterday in particular it seemed to be happening pretty often. I have no video unfortunately, but I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this? It could be lag, so I'm not actually hitting the targets I think I am (I seem to be able to hit myself with the blast often enough ), but I've noticed a huge decrease in MD usage since 1.4, and I wonder if it's not just the Aim Assist for rifles that's driving the masses away (see what I did there?). If you aren't getting hit markers with a Mass Driver, you're doing it wrong. The MD is so easy to use, it's not even funny. Getting hits are easy, it's getting kills that separate the boys from the men. With proper skills, you can get that gun to have over 5m blast radius. That means you can miss by about 15 feet and still get a hit. Crazy huh? You missed the point of my post. I've got MD V and Prof III. I've used these things since February. The problem isn't that i'm not skilled up or don't know how to use them, it's a change I've noticed since 1.4, hence the post to the bug reports thread instead of the training grounds. Just after Uprising dropped there was an issue with the blast not being a full dome, so for instance you couldn't shoot a wall behind someone to kill them. Once they fixed this (in 1.3 maybe?) the MD became ubiquitous on the battle field and people started asking for a nerf. Then comes 1.4; the rifles get a hit detection pass and they become more effective, and my poor MD rounds seem to stop hitting. I'm just wondering if folks here think when they played with bullet hit detection they somehow changed explosive hit detection as well.
abarkrishna The Elysian Knights 14	Posted - 2013.10.18 03:55:00 - [6] - Quote I have been having this same issue so i filed a support ticket. This is what they had to say in response. "The phenomenon you experienced is latency related and is linked to each specific player internet connection to the server. The hit registration is done server side (Not client side like in most other FPS) and it is likely that the hit registration you see on your screen is delayed in a case where a high latency is involved. The server would register the hit but it would only be display in a delayed reaction. This also generally translate with your aim being slightly off." This is also why it sometimes seems like you are getting shot through walls when your ducking behind cover in a firefight. Once again bad mechanics on CCP's behalf.
Icarus DelSol BIG BAD W0LVES 0	Posted - 2013.10.19 05:31:00 - [7] - Quote That must be it. I hope they fix it somehow. Thanks for letting me know.
Fiddler Galaine Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 34	Posted - 2013.10.19 07:12:00 - [8] - Quote There definitely has been some noticeable lag after 1.5 - taking damage a second or 2 after taking cover.
McFurious TeamPlayers EoN. 383	Posted - 2013.10.19 07:21:00 - [9] - Quote There are issues with the maps where MD rounds go through the ground/floor instead of impacting it. I noticed it on one of the new Gallente maps.
Vitsuna Lancaster ROGUE SPADES EoN. 0	Posted - 2013.10.20 20:28:00 - [10] - Quote I've noticed some issues with massdriving a crowd directly. I hit them only causing some little damage. Plus almost no splash damage to 6 other units inside the area. This was in the domination map with the table top mid map. With the objective inside a crate. I hit directly with 2 shots killing no one. Not sure if direct damage causes no splash? Most of the time killing most of anything with a mass driver. I've noticed sometimes the splash damage has no affect on me when I am using the MD.



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