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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1732
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Posted - 2013.10.12 21:56:00 -
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All of you spec into the Assault Scrambler-Gek-38 Rifle. You will get;
- A Scope - Better DPS - Better Range
And all of that for only about 10,000 isk more.
Lets see how the Amarr extremist deal with this one. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
326
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Posted - 2013.10.12 21:57:00 -
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no english? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1732
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:01:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:no english?
As far as i know.. no... you don't get English with the SCR... what ever that is... |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
584
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:02:00 -
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Don't encourage them! |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1732
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:06:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Don't encourage them!
Why no ? I getting a bit tired of all this "Nerf the AR" threads...time for something new. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3835
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:11:00 -
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The DPS isn't really better, but I have to say I enjoy the scope and range. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1732
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The DPS isn't really better, but I have to say I enjoy the scope and range.
Practically zero bullet dispersion = Better DPS |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1697
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:22:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:All of you spec to the Assault Scrambler-Gek-38 Rifle. You will get; - A Scope - Better DPS - Better Range - Zero bullet dispersion - Practically no recoil And all of that for only about 10,000 isk more. Lets see how the Amarr extremist deal with this one.
You are still convinced ASCR have all that? - A Scope : YES - Better DPS : YES - Better Range : on paper - Zero bullet dispersion : NO - Practically no recoil : NO
You all AR users DO that and have fun using ASCR, when you realize the horrible RECOIL + muzzle flash the weapon has. When you get into an intense Fire fight and gets overheated, yeah, try and fit that 15 PG weapon in your suits too.
And then have fun when scrubs kill you with a GEK at 50+ mts because hes not missing a single bullet and you are hitting the floor with it.
Im convinced Mr. Banning Hammer has never used an ASCR. You use my 77k + ISK Carthum ASCR, and i'll use your 45k ISK Duvolle AR. Trade accepted gallante scum.... |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:All of you spec to the Assault Scrambler-Gek-38 Rifle. You will get; - A Scope - Better DPS - Better Range - Zero bullet dispersion - Practically no recoil And all of that for only about 10,000 isk more. Lets see how the Amarr extremist deal with this one.
You are still convinced ASCR have all that?- A Scope : YES - Better DPS : YES - Better Range : on paper - Zero bullet dispersion : NO - Practically no recoil : NO You all AR users DO that and have fun using ASCR, when you realize the horrible RECOIL + muzzle flash the weapon has. When you get into an intense Fire fight and gets overheated, yeah, try and fit that 15 PG weapon in your suits too. And then have fun when scrubs kill you with a GEK at 50+ mts because hes not missing a single bullet and you are hitting the floor with it. Im convinced Mr. Banning Hammer has never used an ASCR.You use your 77k + Carthum ASCR, and i'll use your 45k Duvolle AR. Trade accepted gallante scum....
Blah, blah, blah ... you just scare of what is going to happen. Don't listen to this guy...The Assault SCR is the new improved version of the Gek-38. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1697
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:32:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote: Blah, blah, blah ... you just scare of what is going to happen. Don't listen to this guy...The Assault SCR is the new improved version of the Gek-38.
Bro, im not even against your idea. Please everybody listen to the wise Banning Hammer, Spec into ASCR NOW! :3
There im helping you, i prefer dealing with ASCR than ARs , so there... |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.12 22:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Blah, blah, blah ... you just scare of what is going to happen. Don't listen to this guy...The Assault SCR is the new improved version of the Gek-38.
Bro, im not even against your idea. Please everybody listen to the wise Banning Hammer, Spec into ASCR NOW! :3
There im helping you, i prefer dealing with ASCR than ARs , so there...
Be careful what you wish for |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1464
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:12:00 -
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Yea my old CEO raved about SCRs. I tried it, specced into it and it just wasn't my style. It didn't match my aggressive gameplay for some reason. I didn't like watching out for the heat though I've been told that once its leveled up, heat build up isn't much of a problem
I'm sticking with my Gek and my Robert Duvolle, thank you very much |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:15:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yea my old CEO raved about SCRs. I tried it, specced into it and it just wasn't my style. It didn't match my aggressive gameplay for some reason. I didn't like watching out for the heat though I've been told that once its leveled up, heat build up isn't much of a problem
I'm sticking with my Gek and my Robert Duvolle, thank you very much
You don't get the Assault version to Level 4 .... but it is a Gek-38 with a Scope, it just looks different. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1465
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:19:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea my old CEO raved about SCRs. I tried it, specced into it and it just wasn't my style. It didn't match my aggressive gameplay for some reason. I didn't like watching out for the heat though I've been told that once its leveled up, heat build up isn't much of a problem
I'm sticking with my Gek and my Robert Duvolle, thank you very much You don't get the Assault version to Level 4 .... but it is a Gek-38 with a Scope, it just looks different.
I understand. It's just not my style. The only thing I like Gallente are my ARs. For me, the SCR is like putting on a corduroy suit in the middle of summer while doing pull ups. It's all sorts of wrong for me...
EDIT: Those who master it I salute. It is a very lethal weapon. If it became norm, then threads would explode with SCR is OP. It's that good. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:22:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea my old CEO raved about SCRs. I tried it, specced into it and it just wasn't my style. It didn't match my aggressive gameplay for some reason. I didn't like watching out for the heat though I've been told that once its leveled up, heat build up isn't much of a problem
I'm sticking with my Gek and my Robert Duvolle, thank you very much You don't get the Assault version to Level 4 .... but it is a Gek-38 with a Scope, it just looks different. I understand. It's just not my style. The only thing I like Gallente are my ARs. For me, the SCR is like putting on a corduroy suit in the middle of summer while doing pull ups. It's all sorts of wrong for me...
No, you still don't get it ..... IT IS an Assault Rifle. Look at the marketplace, Level 4 Assault SCR. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1703
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:25:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Blah, blah, blah ... you just scare of what is going to happen. Don't listen to this guy...The Assault SCR is the new improved version of the Gek-38.
Bro, im not even against your idea. Please everybody listen to the wise Banning Hammer, Spec into ASCR NOW! :3
There im helping you, i prefer dealing with ASCR than ARs , so there... Be careful what you wish for
HAHAH i dont need to be, you will all be missing shots at 40mts while i'll be scoring HS with a Duvolle.
This WHOLE thread of ASCR > AR is just stoopid , sorry but true. Its ridiculous. So yeah i wish that everybody had ASCR instead of ARs. LOL , IT WONT HAPPEN, people LOVE spraying and praying those 60 bullets without overheat......... |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1465
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:25:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea my old CEO raved about SCRs. I tried it, specced into it and it just wasn't my style. It didn't match my aggressive gameplay for some reason. I didn't like watching out for the heat though I've been told that once its leveled up, heat build up isn't much of a problem
I'm sticking with my Gek and my Robert Duvolle, thank you very much You don't get the Assault version to Level 4 .... but it is a Gek-38 with a Scope, it just looks different. I understand. It's just not my style. The only thing I like Gallente are my ARs. For me, the SCR is like putting on a corduroy suit in the middle of summer while doing pull ups. It's all sorts of wrong for me... No, you still don't get it ..... IT IS an Assault Rifle. Look at the marketplace, Level 4 Assault SCR.
LOL no you don't get it. Where am I disputing that it isn't a AR? Where? I just said it wasn't my style. Then I go on to say the only thing I like about Gallente is their ARs. The SCR is an Amarr weapon. So I don't know what you're rambling about. I wasn't talking about what it is defined as. I'm talking about what I like and what I don't like. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.12 23:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Blah, blah, blah ... you just scare of what is going to happen. Don't listen to this guy...The Assault SCR is the new improved version of the Gek-38.
Bro, im not even against your idea. Please everybody listen to the wise Banning Hammer, Spec into ASCR NOW! :3
There im helping you, i prefer dealing with ASCR than ARs , so there... Be careful what you wish for HAHAH i dont need to be, you will all be missing shots at 40mts while i'll be scoring HS with a Duvolle. This WHOLE thread of ASCR > AR is just stoopid , sorry but true . Its ridiculous.So yeah i wish that everybody had ASCR instead of ARs. LOL , IT WONT HAPPEN, people L OVE spraying and praying those 60 bullets without overheat.........
That is exactly what the ASCR does....I can't seriously be the only person in this forums that have tried the ASCR, honestly?
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1703
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:13:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:That is exactly what the ASCR does....I can't seriously be the only person in this forums that have tried the ASCR, honestly?
God please stop, you are making a fool of yourself saying aSCR > AR
As it is the ARs are better at long range and ASCR equal them in CQ. It should be inversed, ASCR good long ranged+mid ranged..... AR good CQ-mid range. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:That is exactly what the ASCR does....I can't seriously be the only person in this forums that have tried the ASCR, honestly? God please stop, you are making a fool of yourself saying aSCR > AR As it is the ARs are better at long range and ASCR equal them in CQ. It should be inversed, ASCR good long ranged+mid ranged..... AR good CQ-mid range.
I think you may find... that it is you that is making a fool of yourself. You see, CCP have been very sneaky with the ASCR...
They have given AR users exactly what we want, but in a place where AR haters ( Amarr Heavies ) can't touch it.
The fool always thinks that everyone else is a fool. |
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Protocake JR
Ancient Exiles
752
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:40:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:All of you spec to the Assault Scrambler-Gek-38 Rifle. You will get; - A Scope - Better DPS - Better Range - Zero bullet dispersion - Practically no recoil And all of that for only about 10,000 isk more. Lets see how the Amarr extremist deal with this one.
I'm really not sure what to say here.
The AScr only has better DPS against shield tankers in CQC when compared to the Gek. It will loose all of it's DPS at range due to bullet dispersion. It has no recoil, but it does have a debilitating muzzle flash that acts like a strobe light (frames per second looks like it is lower than it really is, because of the strobe light effect). Oh! And even though the scope is kind of nice, it's easy to lose the dot in areas where there is too much light. ALSO, the muzzle flash in combination with the yellow tinted scope can turn black protosuits invisible in shady areas.
On paper, the AScr looks OP. But there are many "off the paper" stats that supposedly "balance" out the gun. It's still a good gun in the right hands, but if you are doing really well with the AScr, then you would be doing better with a GEK/Duvolle. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1704
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:42:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:That is exactly what the ASCR does....I can't seriously be the only person in this forums that have tried the ASCR, honestly? God please stop, you are making a fool of yourself saying aSCR > AR As it is the ARs are better at long range and ASCR equal them in CQ. It should be inversed, ASCR good long ranged+mid ranged..... AR good CQ-mid range. I think you may find... that it is you that is making a fool of yourself. You see, CCP have been very sneaky with the ASCR... They have given AR users exactly what we want, but in a place where AR haters ( Amarr Heavies ) can't touch it. The fool always thinks that everyone else is a fool.
Great counter argument, LOL.
Do what you want man. Whatevs,there is a reason every game we have 10 AR users and i see 1 ASCR every 3 games. Thinking you know better than the whole DUST514 Playerbase says a lot about yourself; and i figured out i shouldnt even try to reason with you.
Chuz bro,have fun with your ASCR then. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:55:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:That is exactly what the ASCR does....I can't seriously be the only person in this forums that have tried the ASCR, honestly? God please stop, you are making a fool of yourself saying aSCR > AR As it is the ARs are better at long range and ASCR equal them in CQ. It should be inversed, ASCR good long ranged+mid ranged..... AR good CQ-mid range. I think you may find... that it is you that is making a fool of yourself. You see, CCP have been very sneaky with the ASCR... They have given AR users exactly what we want, but in a place where AR haters ( Amarr Heavies ) can't touch it. The fool always thinks that everyone else is a fool. Great counter argument, LOL.Do what you want man. Whatevs,there is a reason every game we have 10 AR users and i see 1 ASCR every 3 games. Thinking you know better than the whole DUST514 Playerbase says a lot about yourself; and i figured out i shouldnt even try to reason with you. Chuz bro,have fun with your ASCR then.
That is only because most people won't get to level 4, if they don't like what they seeing at Level 1... that is why i said CCP have been Sneaky, they know that only few people will be curious about the Assault SCR, and wiling to spend the SP to get to Level 4.
You see... I'm a cat, i find shiny things Curious ... Meow. |
HYENAKILLER X
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
282
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:01:00 -
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I specd into scrambler rifles and want my sp back. Gek 38 pound for pound is easily the best weapon ingame.....that doesnt spam.
Not to mention the amount of pg/cpu required basically makes scrambler on adv assualt suits pointless.
Dont even step to the duvolle son. Please please please do not step. |
PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
70
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:01:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:All of you spec to the Assault Scrambler-Gek-38 Rifle. You will get; - A Scope - Better DPS - Better Range - Zero bullet dispersion - Practically no recoil And all of that for only about 10,000 isk more. Lets see how the Amarr extremist deal with this one.
You are still convinced ASCR have all that?- A Scope : YES - Better DPS : YES - Better Range : on paper - Zero bullet dispersion : NO - Practically no recoil : NO You all AR users DO that and have fun using ASCR, when you realize the horrible RECOIL + muzzle flash the weapon has. When you get into an intense Fire fight and gets overheated, yeah, try and fit that 15 PG weapon in your suits too. And then have fun when scrubs kill you with a GEK at 50+ mts because hes not missing a single bullet and you are hitting the floor with it. Im convinced Mr. Banning Hammer has never used an ASCR.You use my 77k + ISK Carthum ASCR, and i'll use your 45k ISK Duvolle AR. Trade accepted gallante scum....
Well i have used ASCR/SCR You lying son of a b.... There is no disp, and there is no kick, i can empty my entire clip in a bulls eye, and my ASCR/SCR dont move an inch, and ALL bullets hit my target if i stand still and aim fire it at a fixed point.
I CANT do that with an AR, it starts to bounce around in the middle of the clip and starts to move up and to the side, and when it does that you hit NOTHING.
Try this fitting, i use it myself. Caldari lvl 5 logi suit, 1.184 EHP, Proto ASCR, grenades, and nano's for self reps and ammo...
5 X Complex shield extender. 4 X Enhanced armor plate. 3 X Compact nanohive. 1 X Flux grenade. 1 X Carthum assault scrambler rifle.
Stats:
CPU: 458/459 PG: 102/102 Shield: 588 HP. Armor: 596 HP. Stamina: 115. Stamina recovery rate: 12.00. Shield recharge rate: 20. Armor repair rate: 3. (im still only lvl 3, at lvl 5, its 5) Movement speed: 4.33. Sprint speed: 6.06. Melee damage: 110.
STOP LYING... |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:15:00 -
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Pwff, I'd still be able to wreck all of you with my DREN AR so sit down and shut up fools. |
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