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MCEINSTEIN08
ADAMANTIUM CORE
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:12:00 -
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Hello DUST Community, I just need a quick explanation.
On the AMARR Sentinel DS, you get:
5% reduction to weapon feedback damage per level.
What exactly this means? And please use simple words for your explanation. 
Thank you very much for the help. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2085
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:14:00 -
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When your laser or scrambler rifle overheats and blows up in your face you take less damage than people in other suits |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
578
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:15:00 -
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that means weapons that overheats and deals dmg to you will have that dmg reduce.
meaning laser rifles and SCR will have its overheat dmg reduced to you.
so as a heavy it is quite pointless to skill into a sentinel suit due to the fact that no heavy weapon overheats. |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers
EoN.
115
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:16:00 -
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5 % Reduction damage from light weapon. |
MCEINSTEIN08
ADAMANTIUM CORE
44
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:26:00 -
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Thank you.
So if I understand all you responses, this bonus is useless?
First of all I did not know that overheating a weapon will give me damage. Second of all I really never overheat.
So the only real bonus is the 2% fast reload.
Thank you community for the explanation. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1139
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:32:00 -
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As the others said you will take less damage when overheating Laser and Scrambler Rifles. The HMG can overheat as well, but you don't take damage when it does.
The Amarr Sentinel has this bonus because in the future there will be an Amarr heavy weapon that will overheat and do damage to you when overheating.
The bonus sucks for a couple of reasons.
1. We don't have the Amarr heavy weapon currently, which means it's a worthless bonus.
2. Even if we did have the Amarr heavy weapon, the bonus would still be worthless because you shouldn't even be overheating in the first place, so the bonus will have no use.
Edit: Well, actually I forgot that this is in fact the bonus for all the races Sentinel suit (for when we get them), which just makes the bonus even more worthless. The Amarr Sentinel currently has the reload bonus. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2735
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:02:00 -
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The sentinel is still good to skill into because it trades highs for lows over the default heavy frame, but that bonus is pointless. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2239
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:46:00 -
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Yeah, really unfortunate.
I'd rather have a 5% increase to jumping altitude per level :D |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2958
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:49:00 -
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MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:Thank you.
So if I understand all you responses, this bonus is useless?
First of all I did not know that overheating a weapon will give me damage. Second of all I really never overheat.
So the only real bonus is the 2% fast reload.
Thank you community for the explanation.
NO it may well be useful later when the Amarr Heavy Weapon is out.
Our suit bonuses directly affect the heat of our weapons which is great. |
Mauren NOON
The Exemplars
Top Men.
14
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:58:00 -
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The sentinel also costs a lot less Isk |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5989
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Posted - 2013.10.14 04:01:00 -
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It means they balanced the suit for something still on the drawing board... |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
Ascension Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.10.14 05:04:00 -
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I wouldn't say the sentinel is useless. Basic for offense, Sentinel for defense~ The bonuses are a bit meh but who cares~ |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1846
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Posted - 2013.10.14 05:05:00 -
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Yea, the suit isn't useless.
The bonus is useless. |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
114
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Posted - 2013.10.14 05:08:00 -
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spend millions of sp on core skills, maxed out weapons, and armor plates and AR scrubs ALMOST have to use tactics to kill you... |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z
273
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Posted - 2013.10.14 05:30:00 -
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MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:Thank you.
So if I understand all you responses, this bonus is useless?
First of all I did not know that overheating a weapon will give me damage. Second of all I really never overheat.
So the only real bonus is the 2% fast reload.
Thank you community for the explanation.
just think of it like this, viziam does like 200hp when overheat? a proto heavy laser would probably kill a regular heavy when overheated if you didnt have this skill to 5 |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
57
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Posted - 2013.10.14 06:15:00 -
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the sentinel bonus is there for when the Amarrian heavy weapon gets implemented, but at this point who knows when that will be
if you are going heavy, just use the basic, dont waste the SP in sentinel until there are more heavy weapons |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
Ascension Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.10.14 06:47:00 -
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Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:the sentinel bonus is there for when the Amarrian heavy weapon gets implemented, but at this point who knows when that will be
if you are going heavy, just use the basic, dont waste the SP in sentinel until there are more heavy weapons
I would consider this bad advice but to each their own~ |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
121
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:23:00 -
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The 2% sentinel reload bonus is per level, so 10% at level 5, right? Because the in-game description doesn't say anything about "per level" - just says "+2% to heavy weapon reload speed", which suggests it's 2% total. Every bonus on every other suit says "per level". |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
196
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:27:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:The 2% sentinel reload bonus is per level, so 10% at level 5, right? Because the in-game description doesn't say anything about "per level" - just says "+2% to heavy weapon reload speed", which suggests it's 2% total. Every bonus on every other suit says "per level".
Just a static 2%. Caldari assault used to have that style bonus to hybrid weapons. .. but with out it being per level it's kinda junky. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1798
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:30:00 -
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Handy for the SCR rifle....you don't HAVE to use a heavy weapon all the time, you know.....in fact, a Sentinel with an Assault SCR is a bit of a beast .... |
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
121
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:50:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:The 2% sentinel reload bonus is per level, so 10% at level 5, right? Because the in-game description doesn't say anything about "per level" - just says "+2% to heavy weapon reload speed", which suggests it's 2% total. Every bonus on every other suit says "per level". Just a static 2%. Caldari assault used to have that style bonus to hybrid weapons. .. but with out it being per level it's kinda junky.
Really? So at level 5 you get feedback damage reduction (=useless) and 2% reload? Compared to +25% to shield recharge and +10% to shield extenders for Caldari Assault. Unbalanced, like elephants and ants on seesaws. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
451
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:35:00 -
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IMO the sentinel skill should give a 3% reduction to incoming damage per level
The Ammar sentinel skill should give a 3-5% reduction to heat build up per level |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1373
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:31:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:IMO the sentinel skill should give a 3% reduction to incoming damage per level
The Ammar sentinel skill should give a 3-5% reduction to heat build up per level
I like
Have the sentinel skill the same for all races then tweek the 2nd skill for the weapon or whatever like logi/assaults |
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