DUST Search - Minmatar had lost every single FW battle for the last two days to amarr

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

So everyone saying, "Hey man, we redlined the Amarr hard!" Do know that every time you redline the enemy, you are going against the randoms. That matches you should be priding your victories in are the close fought ones that your team would of lost had your squad not been there. How many of those have you come out on the winning side of?

Apparently not many, because looking at the percentages,

Devoid
98% - 24th Imperial Crusade
2% - Tribal Liberation Force

The Bleak Lands
95% - 24th Imperial Crusade
5% - Tribal Liberation Force

Heimatar
82% - 24th Imperial Crusade
18% - Tribal Liberation Force

Metropolis
87% - 24th Imperial Crusade
13% - Tribal Liberation Force

So yeah. And I would initially get suspicious that there is something up with FW that is broken again, but on the Gallente/Caldari side the Caldari are only holding a modest lead.

I seem to recall that you were complaining about broken mechanics. I think this adequately proves that a turnaround is entirely possible.

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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2680	Posted - 2013.10.10 08:19:00 - [31] - Quote So everyone saying, "Hey man, we redlined the Amarr hard!" Do know that every time you redline the enemy, you are going against the randoms. That matches you should be priding your victories in are the close fought ones that your team would of lost had your squad not been there. How many of those have you come out on the winning side of? Apparently not many, because looking at the percentages, Devoid 98% - 24th Imperial Crusade 2% - Tribal Liberation Force The Bleak Lands 95% - 24th Imperial Crusade 5% - Tribal Liberation Force Heimatar 82% - 24th Imperial Crusade 18% - Tribal Liberation Force Metropolis 87% - 24th Imperial Crusade 13% - Tribal Liberation Force So yeah. And I would initially get suspicious that there is something up with FW that is broken again, but on the Gallente/Caldari side the Caldari are only holding a modest lead. Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Remember when Foxfour said the hole seems too deep to be dug out of for Amarr/Caldari? Like I had said before, it was not. All we needed was motivation, not hand-holding mechanics that made everybody equal by default. Well, then again the event started on the day of the update to 1.5. It could of very well been that FoxFour fixed it. I have a hard time believing that Amarr were struggling to hold just 1% for a full month, then just because of the event they flipped everything over. Long Evity wrote: BrownEye1129 wrote: Hmmm interestinng bc I played 8-10 matches this morning after down time and won. Or should I say redlined and cloned. Not sure where you pulled your data to make such a statement. You are incorrect might want to run through your numbers again before you decide to open your mouth and spew BS. So.. Minmatar can only win when most of Amarr is asleep? Lol Well actually this could be the case. Yesterday I saw Amarr holding 38% in Bleak Lands, then went to bed and found out we went all the way down to 9% in Bleak Lands. Of course now we got it all the way up to 95%, should be interesting to see where it is in the morning.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2788	Posted - 2013.10.10 08:22:00 - [32] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Remember when Foxfour said the hole seems too deep to be dug out of for Amarr/Caldari? Like I had said before, it was not. All we needed was motivation, not hand-holding mechanics that made everybody equal by default. I'm glad our posting, PIE GD, and the involvement of certain groups within EoN, as well as the long serving efforts of the Amarrian loyalists on this forum have been able to turn things around.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1211	Posted - 2013.10.10 08:25:00 - [33] - Quote Personally I've lost every single FW warfare match I've played in the last 48 hours. It's been insanely stacked teams vs my 1 organized squad w the rest have been NPC players going 0/15, 0/19, 0/25. I personally will not be receiving any awards from this event.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1057	Posted - 2013.10.10 08:28:00 - [34] - Quote I blame the honourless mercs who switch sides when offered lewt.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1211	Posted - 2013.10.10 08:31:00 - [35] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: I blame the honourless mercs who switch sides when offered lewt. Pretty much this. There just isn't a large enough pool of organized players fighting for Minmatar right now.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2681	Posted - 2013.10.10 08:37:00 - [36] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: iceyburnz wrote: I blame the honourless mercs who switch sides when offered lewt. Pretty much this. There just isn't a large enough pool of organized players fighting for Minmatar right now. I wouldn't blame the loot. Are the Minmatar not getting good rewards as well? How about the fact that ever since release there has been a strong push by many players to create a strong gathering towards Amarr? You're right, not many organized players fighting for Minmatar. So why not do something to change that?
Raskutor DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2013.10.10 08:40:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Remember when Foxfour said the hole seems too deep to be dug out of for Amarr/Caldari? Like I had said before, it was not. All we needed was motivation, not hand-holding mechanics that made everybody equal by default. I'm glad our posting, PIE GD, and the involvement of certain groups within EoN, as well as the long serving efforts of the Amarrian loyalists on this forum have been able to turn things around. This. The PIE GD channel is what got me connected with you guys, and I'm glad for it. Also, was having another great run until my PS3 froze a few minutes ago. Now just need to get back in game.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1734	Posted - 2013.10.10 09:01:00 - [38] - Quote BrownEye1129 wrote: My first comment? That was asking the OP for some proof of his claim that Minmatar lost "every" FW the last two days. My second comment was asking for some evidence that most of the Ammar are asleep after down time. I just don't understand how these people are making such difinative statements without any evidence. Is this what the mass of our society has come to? Randomly coming to conclusions and drawing theories? I gave you a possible reason why you're numbers were different from the Ops and how many battles I won myself for the Amarr faction. Also I'm sure the Op meant that they were losing every battle he was in and not the Minmatar losing every battle as a whole.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1511	Posted - 2013.10.10 09:02:00 - [39] - Quote I think fox threw a fix in or the rusts are about to be on the wrong end of the hole thanks to a very strong effort by the amarr loyalists
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 600	Posted - 2013.10.10 09:09:00 - [40] - Quote I need a PS3... My MinLogi wants to see some action! Go Minmatar!

abarkrishna The Elysian Knights 8	Posted - 2013.10.10 09:09:00 - [41] - Quote The answer is simple. The amar rewards are a CRW scrambler rifle. Everyone uses the ******* CRW Hence are encouraged to proto stomp
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2682	Posted - 2013.10.10 09:14:00 - [42] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: The answer is simple. The amar rewards are a CRW scrambler rifle. Everyone uses the ******* CRW Hence are encouraged to proto stomp Incorrect, the Amarr reward is the Carthum assault scrambler rifle. And speaking of which, I've seen a ton of players fighting for the Minmatar using scrambler rifles and even prototype Amarr logistics, another one of the Amarr rewards. Makes no sense to me why they are fighting Minmatar, but they are. I would rather like to contribute the Amarr FW success to a bunch of guys around the forums and in the game who have been relentless advocating for Amarr for months now. We have amassed quite the army and even a bunch of EVE orbital supporters.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2793	Posted - 2013.10.10 09:34:00 - [43] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: The answer is simple. The amar rewards are a CRW scrambler rifle. Everyone uses the ******* CRW Hence are encouraged to proto stomp HTFU. This is how it works in EVE, this is how it works in Dust, only reason MInnies were winning this past month is due to the increase in FW Minmatar ship prices at sale. FYI, besides those corps who constantly FW like PIE Inc, EM, etc. Most people don't care and fight whichever way makes them money.
bethany valvetino Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 101	Posted - 2013.10.10 11:25:00 - [44] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Cause we want our carthums (very expensive stuff) it's why i'm doing them
bethany valvetino Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 101	Posted - 2013.10.10 11:27:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: abarkrishna wrote: The answer is simple. The amar rewards are a CRW scrambler rifle. Everyone uses the ******* CRW Hence are encouraged to proto stomp HTFU. This is how it works in EVE, this is how it works in Dust, only reason MInnies were winning this past month is due to the increase in FW Minmatar ship prices at sale. FYI, besides those corps who constantly FW like PIE Inc, EM, etc. Most people don't care and fight whichever way makes them money. been this way in eve fw for years. and don't mistake the actions of farmers for those of dedicated FW ppl. In Eve FW has a strong rp following, guys like PIE. I have not really seen this so much in Dust.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2798	Posted - 2013.10.10 11:33:00 - [46] - Quote bethany valvetino wrote: True Adamance wrote: abarkrishna wrote: The answer is simple. The amar rewards are a CRW scrambler rifle. Everyone uses the ***** CRW Hence are encouraged to proto stomp HTFU. This is how it works in EVE, this is how it works in Dust, only reason MInnies were winning this past month is due to the increase in FW Minmatar ship prices at sale. FYI, besides those corps who constantly FW like PIE Inc, EM, etc. Most people don't care and fight whichever way makes them money. been this way in eve fw for years. and don't mistake the actions of farmers for those of dedicated FW ppl. In Eve FW has a strong rp following, guys like PIE. I have not really seen this so much in Dust. As always you do know a ** ton about EVE Mr "Bloody Pirate" Valvetino.
Buttercup Chipmint Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2013.10.10 11:36:00 - [47] - Quote Dark Deviser wrote: ... What do the minmatar have to say for *themselfs? I am ashamed cause I've been fighting for them for the last two days also... themselves* pronoun pronoun: themselves 1. used as the object of a verb or preposition to refer to a group of people or things previously mentioned as the subject of the clause. "countries unable to look after themselves" 2. used to emphasize a particular group of people or things mentioned. "excellent at organizing others, they may well be disorganized themselves"
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 176	Posted - 2013.10.10 11:46:00 - [48] - Quote abarkrishna wrote: The answer is simple. The amar rewards are a CRW scrambler rifle. Everyone uses the ******* CRW Hence are encouraged to proto stomp I'm not sure about that. I see plenty of freedom mass drivers still around, not a terrible prize to be had. Anyway, sure, having EoN helps but to be honest I played most of my matches without a lot of EoN around and still won them all. PIE has lot to do with it. don't like it? Make your own channel and muster your allies! (p.s., I also have no proto suits, so dont bother claiming protostomping, I'm still in the top 5 on the leaderboard most matches)
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3759	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:07:00 - [49] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: So everyone saying, "Hey man, we redlined the Amarr hard!" Do know that every time you redline the enemy, you are going against the randoms. That matches you should be priding your victories in are the close fought ones that your team would of lost had your squad not been there. How many of those have you come out on the winning side of? Apparently not many, because looking at the percentages, Devoid 98% - 24th Imperial Crusade 2% - Tribal Liberation Force The Bleak Lands 95% - 24th Imperial Crusade 5% - Tribal Liberation Force Heimatar 82% - 24th Imperial Crusade 18% - Tribal Liberation Force Metropolis 87% - 24th Imperial Crusade 13% - Tribal Liberation Force So yeah. And I would initially get suspicious that there is something up with FW that is broken again, but on the Gallente/Caldari side the Caldari are only holding a modest lead. I seem to recall that you were complaining about broken mechanics. I think this adequately proves that a turnaround is entirely possible.
Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1472	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:22:00 - [50] - Quote As of this morning, Amarr has 100% in all regions which is causing Scotty to blunder and give error messages. P.S. - Easiest 100 Uplinks, 50 Carthums, and 25 Logistics a.k0 suits I'll ever earn!

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 340	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:32:00 - [51] - Quote Lol complete lies, there's more battles going on than you think.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 340	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:33:00 - [52] - Quote They flip constantly almost.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1024	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:37:00 - [53] - Quote I give in. I'm done trying to fight for the Minmatar as by now, the amount of battles I would need to win in order to get at least 45% of them would be over 100 if I kept going at this average. Might as well fight for the amarr for the Carthums... :/ I was excited to see proto min logi, repair tools, and mass drivers as minmatar rewards but sadly I will never get them. However I did win one match using a suit that costs 17k...topping the board with 25/6. Minmatar mass drivers FTW. I have not been so lucky since.
Centurion mkII SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 132	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:40:00 - [54] - Quote Glory to the empress!
Zimander A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:45:00 - [55] - Quote Long Evity wrote: just did 15-20 FW matches for amarr - won 90% of them, and 2/3 of those were red lines. With EoN and AE mostly backing Amarr Minmatar are pressed hard. Surlily last night i play 10 WF for Minmatar and won 9 of them so yeah maybe check u # again
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2691	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:48:00 - [56] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: So everyone saying, "Hey man, we redlined the Amarr hard!" Do know that every time you redline the enemy, you are going against the randoms. That matches you should be priding your victories in are the close fought ones that your team would of lost had your squad not been there. How many of those have you come out on the winning side of? Apparently not many, because looking at the percentages, Devoid 98% - 24th Imperial Crusade 2% - Tribal Liberation Force The Bleak Lands 95% - 24th Imperial Crusade 5% - Tribal Liberation Force Heimatar 82% - 24th Imperial Crusade 18% - Tribal Liberation Force Metropolis 87% - 24th Imperial Crusade 13% - Tribal Liberation Force So yeah. And I would initially get suspicious that there is something up with FW that is broken again, but on the Gallente/Caldari side the Caldari are only holding a modest lead. I seem to recall that you were complaining about broken mechanics. I think this adequately proves that a turnaround is entirely possible. I seem to recall that nothing started to flip until Uprising 1.5 launched, so yeah . . . How does everyone keep missing that? CCP obviously did something to the FW mechanics in 1.5.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1527	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:56:00 - [57] - Quote It's now broken I think everyone pulled into amarr so we dug and now it's gone full circle
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2806	Posted - 2013.10.10 18:41:00 - [58] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: It's now broken I think everyone pulled into amarr so we dug and now it's gone full circle If it is I distinctly remember Fox Four posting that he through the old FW state of Gal/Min dom was imposible for the Kalamari toe escape from. I think we earned this shift.


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