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Castor Crave
DUST University Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:36:00 -
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It's about this: http://dust514.com/events/factional-warfare-challenge/
I played ten matches now. In order to get the rewards I need to fight 40+ matches and win at least 45% of them. I really wanted to do this, brought my best gear and so on.
Now, I lost 8 of those 10 matches. The issue was the matchmaking. This and this for example. It also drops me into battles that are about to end (on the loosing side of course). Out of those ten matches ONE was a good fight. The other win was a boring proto stomp.
I don't know, maybe this is CCPs way of balancing the district ownership in FW. Just give the winning side less players. I don't know how it looks for the other races though, just being cynical. I am going back to farm ISK with BPO stuff in pubmatches now, that was a really frustrating experience Please fix it. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2755
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:38:00 -
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They don't balance for District ownership. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1080
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:42:00 -
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Yes matchmaking sucks.
Your getting tossed into lost battles because players are leaving battles to avoid a incurring a loss.
CCP wrote:Team deployment is not a priority
It is possible to que sync. Have 2 squads set to que for only one faction. Then, simply que in at the same time. It doesn't always work, so be ready to cancel deployment if you don't get into the same match. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2665
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:02:00 -
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There is no matchmaking for FW at the moment, currently it's however is ready gets thrown in together. Hopefully in the future they'll have a way for us to decide where we want to fight, but even then it won't be matchmaking.
Also I love the fact that there is a winning percentage requirement for the rewards. If you're complaint is going to be "my team is full of a bunch of scrubs" well then do something about it. Make squads, rally forces, etc. Look at what other factions are doing to support their side and get wins. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
601
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:08:00 -
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These 'events' have been a joke since BETA. Last one that was entertaining was Caldari Prime.
They really need to come up with better incentives for these things. Do you know how many merc's would geek out of their MQ had a poster in it that said "I was there when the Titan fell"
Simple things that keep people entertained |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1080
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:09:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:There is no matchmaking for FW at the moment, currently it's however is ready gets thrown in together. Hopefully in the future they'll have a way for us to decide where we want to fight, but even then it won't be matchmaking.
Also I love the fact that there is a winning percentage requirement for the rewards. If you're complaint is going to be "my team is full of a bunch of scrubs" well then do something about it. Make squads, rally forces, etc. Look at what other factions are doing to support their side and get wins. I hear you , but unfortunately most of these attempts are ignored. Usually, if someone isn't in a squad when they join a match, they won't be gettin into one. hardly anyone uses mics in team chat so rallying anything is impossible.
I have terrible luck when it comes to being placed on a decent team. Usually, it is Ultramarine Corp + NPC Corp lonewolf n00bs, with no mics vs 2 full Proto squads.
Nothing short of Team Deployment will fix the issue. |
Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
169
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:09:00 -
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I ran FW 7 matches today - in 5 of those, we came into the game just as the other side was capturing the last or next to last point...by the time our squad managed to wade into the carnage, we'd lost well over half out MCC shields. Losing because Scotty brought us to the party late...fun times |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2758
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:17:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:There is no matchmaking for FW at the moment, currently it's however is ready gets thrown in together. Hopefully in the future they'll have a way for us to decide where we want to fight, but even then it won't be matchmaking.
Also I love the fact that there is a winning percentage requirement for the rewards. If you're complaint is going to be "my team is full of a bunch of scrubs" well then do something about it. Make squads, rally forces, etc. Look at what other factions are doing to support their side and get wins. I hear you , but unfortunately most of these attempts are ignored. Usually, if someone isn't in a squad when they join a match, they won't be gettin into one. hardly anyone uses mics in team chat so rallying anything is impossible. I have terrible luck when it comes to being placed on a decent team. Usually, it is Ultramarine Corp + NPC Corp lonewolf n00bs, with no mics vs 2 full Proto squads. Nothing short of Team Deployment will fix the issue. You know I always liked you guys but why aren't the ultramarines Imperial? C'mon Robute Guilliame would be proud of you. Fortunately at the moment its the same for me, except my TZ means I can make use of that. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1954
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:25:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:These 'events' have been a joke since BETA. Last one that was entertaining was Caldari Prime.
They really need to come up with better incentives for these things. Do you know how many merc's would geek out of their MQ had a poster in it that said "I was there when the Titan fell"
Simple things that keep people entertained That's an awesome idea. I want a Crashed Titan statue for my coffee table. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1080
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:There is no matchmaking for FW at the moment, currently it's however is ready gets thrown in together. Hopefully in the future they'll have a way for us to decide where we want to fight, but even then it won't be matchmaking.
Also I love the fact that there is a winning percentage requirement for the rewards. If you're complaint is going to be "my team is full of a bunch of scrubs" well then do something about it. Make squads, rally forces, etc. Look at what other factions are doing to support their side and get wins. I hear you , but unfortunately most of these attempts are ignored. Usually, if someone isn't in a squad when they join a match, they won't be gettin into one. hardly anyone uses mics in team chat so rallying anything is impossible. I have terrible luck when it comes to being placed on a decent team. Usually, it is Ultramarine Corp + NPC Corp lonewolf n00bs, with no mics vs 2 full Proto squads. Nothing short of Team Deployment will fix the issue. You know I always liked you guys but why aren't the ultramarines Imperial? C'mon Robute Guilliame would be proud of you. Fortunately at the moment its the same for me, except my TZ means I can make use of that. Well maybe this will answer your question :P
We fight for anyone in FW, atm though I'm focusing on Minmatar for the Six Kin Rep tool, and logi mk.0s. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9337
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:48:00 -
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There is no skill matching in FW as its a stepping stone twoards how higher stakes games are in PC which is going to be a stepping stone twoards null sec empire building.
Also events where you can lose are much better than those where you click and get bacon. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2759
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:53:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:True Adamance wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:There is no matchmaking for FW at the moment, currently it's however is ready gets thrown in together. Hopefully in the future they'll have a way for us to decide where we want to fight, but even then it won't be matchmaking.
Also I love the fact that there is a winning percentage requirement for the rewards. If you're complaint is going to be "my team is full of a bunch of scrubs" well then do something about it. Make squads, rally forces, etc. Look at what other factions are doing to support their side and get wins. I hear you , but unfortunately most of these attempts are ignored. Usually, if someone isn't in a squad when they join a match, they won't be gettin into one. hardly anyone uses mics in team chat so rallying anything is impossible. I have terrible luck when it comes to being placed on a decent team. Usually, it is Ultramarine Corp + NPC Corp lonewolf n00bs, with no mics vs 2 full Proto squads. Nothing short of Team Deployment will fix the issue. You know I always liked you guys but why aren't the ultramarines Imperial? C'mon Robute Guilliame would be proud of you. Fortunately at the moment its the same for me, except my TZ means I can make use of that. Well maybe this will answer your question :P We fight for anyone in FW, atm though I'm focusing on Minmatar for the Six Kin Rep tool, and logi mk.0s. Perhaps after.....
EDIT- I don't think you represent and enemy of PIE so our fraternization rules do not apply here, I would consider you a mercenary, and as a Templar it would be my sacred duty to try to convert you, I hope no body misunderstands. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
607
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Posted - 2013.10.09 20:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is no skill matching in FW as its a stepping stone twoards how higher stakes games are in PC which is going to be a stepping stone twoards null sec empire building.
Also events where you can lose are much better than those where you click and get bacon.
Would prefer bacon to current rewards |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9338
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:01:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is no skill matching in FW as its a stepping stone twoards how higher stakes games are in PC which is going to be a stepping stone twoards null sec empire building.
Also events where you can lose are much better than those where you click and get bacon. Would prefer bacon to current rewards
Maybe with secondary market people can start putting prices on these things would change the valued worth of the prices over standard gear.
I'm open to prizes you think are worth it.
I am thinking about consolation/participation prizes as welll but the this has to take into the account future markets and manfacturing. Items out of thin air is a massive no no in evr which is why all allaince tourney ships are blueprints. |
Cy Clone1
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:04:00 -
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i just don't like when it puts me on the gall side when I only have cal as an option. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
607
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is no skill matching in FW as its a stepping stone twoards how higher stakes games are in PC which is going to be a stepping stone twoards null sec empire building.
Also events where you can lose are much better than those where you click and get bacon. Would prefer bacon to current rewards Maybe with secondary market people can start putting prices on these things would change the valued worth of the prices over standard gear.
A clone can dream.... but for now, bacon and vanity fits (even if I cant show them off in the barge anymore) |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9339
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:09:00 -
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Well secondary market is still in the works and is still a wanted feature in Dust 514. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1589
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:10:00 -
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I'm enjoying entering the battle so late I can't even get boots on the ground before it's over. So far I'm 50% wins on the non-participatory battles... I might get there yet! |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1733
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:11:00 -
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I agree this is a terrible problem. The closest thing to a solution is to look for/make a squad dedicated to winning FW warfare battles. Hopefully the squad finder will earn our love gathering dedicated FW challengers. |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
79
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Posted - 2013.10.10 02:16:00 -
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win % requirements make a bad thing worse. if you really want the rewards, just go play on the afk server. 2 people in a squad and LAV can easily win any match over there |
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Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.10.10 02:23:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:win % requirements make a bad thing worse. if you really want the rewards, just go play on the afk server. 2 people in a squad and LAV can easily win any match over there Actually you need a rail tank and a clue. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
332
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Posted - 2013.10.10 02:27:00 -
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This relates to my belief that maybe people should have a required amount of sp to do fw. Or maybe even make the academy a 100k wp requirement to graduate, that between roughly 50 or 100 matches maybe more for a newb I'd say. |
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