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Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3305	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:06:00 - [1] - Quote It gets so annoying fighting the same corporation over... and over... and over... I get that, when you have a district, you want to keep it... But fighting the same corporations over and over again - I mean really, it gets irritating seeing the same faces every time even though you attacked a district owned by a completely different corporation. Props to the guys who have a reputation for winning to the point they keep getting hired repeatedly but you can't help but smirk as these corporations hire out -every.... time.-
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3305	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:47:00 - [2] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: I have a solution for all your ringing problems! hire us! But, Rampage, we're part of the problem too T~T
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3305	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:56:00 - [3] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: I have a solution for all your ringing problems! hire us! But, Rampage, we're part of the problem too T~T then why have a solution? i<3getting paid Than why not just take the district and farm clones O_o;
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3305	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:00:00 - [4] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I want to get payed too! I don't have that much ISK compared to the 200+ Mil Protobears -_- Lawl, just make an alt character and run nothing but BPO gear - pass the savings on to your main character.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3305	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:22:00 - [5] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I want to get payed too! I don't have that much ISK compared to the 200+ Mil Protobears -_- poor people with only 200m make me sad. :( S'why the ISK doesn't matter and neither do the victories. Fail corps set up shop and profit just to pay off the mercenaries to defend it. Seems self-defeating if you ask me. IMO, should be hard as the dickens to get ringers in a match - complete with Eve Online's "pay for your allies" business that forced players to drop billions for having additional allies. Maybe then people would fight for their own districts in this game. At least with contracts you could establish Vassals who are under the protection of 'x' corporation for a monthly fee. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than just free reign.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3305	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:23:00 - [6] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: I have a solution for all your ringing problems! hire us! But, Rampage, we're part of the problem too T~T then why have a solution? i<3getting paid Than why not just take the district and farm clones O_o; only CEOs/Directors get paid off that. merc work is the only way to make money without having access to corp wallets Or half an hour of transferring ISK, lol.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3307	Posted - 2013.10.09 10:17:00 - [7] - Quote Long Evity wrote: My favorite mails were the people claiming I was killing dust and how I'm a scumbag thinking of myself rather then the good of the game. Lol Gotta love that double standard. You're a bastard for looking out for what -you- want to do in the game but if you actually did what was "healthy" for the game (nothing about that is healthy) than the information and data couldn't be observed in order to make changes, if any were necessary. Just saying, this game can only get better from people doing what they want to do.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3307	Posted - 2013.10.09 17:58:00 - [8] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: OP complains about fighting for a district top lol This poster didn't even read the original post. I have no problem fighting for a district, I have a problem fighting the same people over a district every single time despite said district being owned by a completely different corporation each time. Just saying, I don't see the point in owning a district if all the profits you make from it are just going to pay off mercenaries to defend it for you.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3307	Posted - 2013.10.09 18:05:00 - [9] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: OP complains about fighting for a district top lol This poster didn't even read the original post. I have no problem fighting for a district, I have a problem fighting the same people over a district every single time despite said district being owned by a completely different corporation each time. Just saying, I don't see the point in owning a district if all the profits you make from it are just going to pay off mercenaries to defend it for you. Its like i own half the districts on this game without actually owning them. <3 isk. Hey, whatever floats your boat - I for one would like some variety. If I wanted to fight the same corporation over and over, you'd think the logical decision would be to attack them directly.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3308	Posted - 2013.10.09 18:12:00 - [10] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: variety would be nice but I don't really have a problem with any corporation in this game or a reason to attack anyone. I leave the drama to the people who are into that and like to start wars. I am just here to shoot my gun. pew pew. I agree, to an extent. I don't deal much in politics but when we attack a district I'd like to see more than two people from that corporation actually defending it, lol. There's no rhyme or reason to fight your own wars (despite an entire trailer being titled such) when all you need is to be buddy buddy with someone. After that it's just passive ISK accrual for nothing. At least in Eve I can AFK-Cloaky camp the system and make them think twice about doing something productive.

Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3310	Posted - 2013.10.09 19:41:00 - [11] - Quote Long Evity wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: what's worse than constantly ringing? having your alt corp attack your own district as to keep it constantly locked up, effectively barring anyone from attacking it while you farm the living **** out of it. one corp in particular, that took 6-8+ districts from RND's "fire sale" last night, does this literally ALL the time. absolutely nothing takes the scumbag cake on this one. I can witness, props to anon for always fielding their own, and putting up one hell of a fight :) please name them? ill make it my personal mission to see them burn. "BURN PEOPLE WHO LOCK DISTRICTS!" a day before "Melee glitching is acceptable" God I love you AE guys. :D Someone's jelly as hell
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3313	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:34:00 - [12] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Long Evity wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: what's worse than constantly ringing? having your alt corp attack your own district as to keep it constantly locked up, effectively barring anyone from attacking it while you farm the living **** out of it. one corp in particular, that took 6-8+ districts from RND's "fire sale" last night, does this literally ALL the time. absolutely nothing takes the scumbag cake on this one. I can witness, props to anon for always fielding their own, and putting up one hell of a fight :) please name them? ill make it my personal mission to see them burn. "BURN PEOPLE WHO LOCK DISTRICTS!" a day before "Melee glitching is acceptable" God I love you AE guys. :D Someone's jelly as hell Of? Does no one else find it funny AE guys say locking districts is evil when they glitched in game to win PC matches? Lol forgot - dust forums. People here are about as logical as if they were living in space jam. The opinion of a corporation versus the actions of one man. Do you blame all Cambodians for the genocide committed by Pol Pot?
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3313	Posted - 2013.10.09 23:12:00 - [13] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: The opinion of a corporation versus the actions of one man. Do you blame all Cambodians for the genocide committed by Pol Pot? Oh I see, you think only one of them has expressed this. Lol. AE has been bitching about locked districts since the war, calling it out as being worse then melee glitching, but not doing anything about the glitches they do use openly. This was way before Rampage was in AE. So let's rephrase your question: Is it fair to judge a nation by one political group that supports it? Looks at middle east, china, korea, and south east euro and russia Maybe? I really don't see the issue. Maybe if melee was worth a damn for anything other than getting the last kill I'd maybe see your point but considering that the only legitimate melee class is the Minmatar Scout which is entirely too squishy... Just saying. The skill increases the benefit of the myrofibral stimulants. I want to see the metrics on how many people actually uses them. Edit: And why is it so big of an issue... actually..? I mean, if they're that close that's close enough for shotgun range so you'd have died anyway if the hit detection was worth a **** with the shotgun
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3315	Posted - 2013.10.10 16:07:00 - [14] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: OP complains about fighting for a district top lol This poster didn't even read the original post. I have no problem fighting for a district, I have a problem fighting the same people over a district every single time despite said district being owned by a completely different corporation each time. Just saying, I don't see the point in owning a district if all the profits you make from it are just going to pay off mercenaries to defend it for you. Doesnt concern you If they want to do that let them, either way you have to beat the players in front of you to gain or defend that district What would you prefer? A) corps barely showing up because not enough on at that time to field a full team B) corps bring in merc/alliance members so they can field a full team Lol, it does concern me BECAUSE I'M THE ONE FIGHTING THEM! Honestly, it's not even about them not being able to field enough people on time because of two points that seem to have completely blown over your head: A.) THEY set the reinforcement timer, not us. THEY chose when the fight was going to happen. B.) This battle is going on to it's third day in row - with which we've won twice but didn't have enough clones to keep going. I don't care who they bring to the fight, we're still going to the fight and we're intent on taking the district. It just seems silly to me that, knowing this, the corporation would spend all of their profits on hiring mercenaries. Being as the average for hiring a mercenary is right around 3,000,000 ISK per person (not including vehicles) they're spending THREE TIMES what they'd be making from that district every day. So, the longer this gets drawn out the more money they're spending - far more than we are. Eventually they're going to either run out of expendable income or realize what's happening and just abandon the district. If they're smart, that is. I mean, they're about to waste another bushel of ISK in defending this district, which puts them at almost 100,000,000 in expenses by my uneducated estimate. Even if I'm wrong, they're still spending more than they'd gain in the same amount of time. Considering this, I think these mercenaries should be asking for more money for an extended engagement...
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3315	Posted - 2013.10.10 16:54:00 - [15] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: OP complains about fighting for a district top lol This poster didn't even read the original post. I have no problem fighting for a district, I have a problem fighting the same people over a district every single time despite said district being owned by a completely different corporation each time. Just saying, I don't see the point in owning a district if all the profits you make from it are just going to pay off mercenaries to defend it for you. Doesnt concern you If they want to do that let them, either way you have to beat the players in front of you to gain or defend that district What would you prefer? A) corps barely showing up because not enough on at that time to field a full team B) corps bring in merc/alliance members so they can field a full team Lol, it does concern me BECAUSE I'M THE ONE FIGHTING THEM! Honestly, it's not even about them not being able to field enough people on time because of two points that seem to have completely blown over your head: A.) THEY set the reinforcement timer, not us. THEY chose when the fight was going to happen. B.) This battle is going on to it's third day in row - with which we've won twice but didn't have enough clones to keep going. I don't care who they bring to the fight, we're still going to the fight and we're intent on taking the district. It just seems silly to me that, knowing this, the corporation would spend all of their profits on hiring mercenaries. Being as the average for hiring a mercenary is right around 3,000,000 ISK per person (not including vehicles) they're spending THREE TIMES what they'd be making from that district every day. So, the longer this gets drawn out the more money they're spending - far more than we are. Eventually they're going to either run out of expendable income or realize what's happening and just abandon the district. If they're smart, that is. I mean, they're about to waste another bushel of ISK in defending this district, which puts them at almost 100,000,000 in expenses by my uneducated estimate. Even if I'm wrong, they're still spending more than they'd gain in the same amount of time. Considering this, I think these mercenaries should be asking for more money for an extended engagement... So thats there choice not yours, if they want to waste ISK let them None of this concerns you The corp will do what they see fit, you are not a member, you are just the attacker or defender, nothing you say will have an impact Put your head down and beat them I really do not see what the problem is? You are currently trying to interfere in other corps because you do not like how they run Its none of your business in how they run things Saying nothing of this concerns me is like telling a soldier that none of what he says concerns him on how two warring governments operate. That's ignorance. I'm not trying to interfere in other corps business - I'm simply stating a fact. They can do it all they want but not fighting for your own regime is silly. You're basically paying for protection so you can make money in an area known to have violence - how much money are you honestly making when you're having to pay, daily, for the protection? It's also something to look down on, imo. Sure, there's no such thing as E-Bushido, but you're not gaining anyone's respect when you hire out and you surely aren't learning anything from it yourself. It's like Redlining in pub-matches. You might think you're tough and get a smile at how easily you defeated the other team but if you're winning that hardcore than you need to step up your game and fight some harder opponents. To that end, don't go into PC if you aren't ready. EON was accepting of new corps wanting to get into PC but in killing off all the competition (for the sake of it) they gave these new corps no-one to challenge them. It's like the immune system, if you take a bunch of anti-biotics all your life your immune system never gets the practice it needs to combat the really dangerous **** that's out there. So when all of these guys set up shop and hire out, the only thing they're telling us is that they like money (but not enough to not spend it lmfao) but they don't like having to protect it. And, while we're talking about what is and is not someone's business... What is it any business of yours to comment on this?
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3315	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:10:00 - [16] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: What sucks is how small this game is. Even in pubs you see people you recognize all the time. Not that bad, really. We've got a 1/3 of the player-base of Warframe. Still see a lot of new faces it's just they're not sticking around.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3315	Posted - 2013.10.10 19:16:00 - [17] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: And, while we're talking about what is and is not someone's business... What is it any business of yours to comment on this? Yes because you are crying over nothing and dont seem to grasp the fact that this is DUST and mercs are mercs and stuff will happen on a regular basis that you dont have control over Frankly the thread isnt needed, everyone generally knows the score by now and you cant do anything about it Fail troll is such a fail. Crying assumes I give a ****.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3316	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:32:00 - [18] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: And, while we're talking about what is and is not someone's business... What is it any business of yours to comment on this? Yes because you are crying over nothing and dont seem to grasp the fact that this is DUST and mercs are mercs and stuff will happen on a regular basis that you dont have control over Frankly the thread isnt needed, everyone generally knows the score by now and you cant do anything about it Fail troll is such a fail. Crying assumes I give a **. But you do give a ** You made this thread after all crying about how corps use ringers Damnit, I thought this notification was for something useful. Alright, you win - I can't handle all of these useless responses.