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CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 273	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:34:00 - [1] - Quote What about that one map where one side's distance between their MCC and the objective consists of this: Hills, then cover in the form of buildings, then the objective which has 2 railgun installations conveniently placed overlooking the area which the enemy team will be approaching from Whilst the other team has this between their MCC and the objective: 300m of open space with NO cover. I am SICK of not being able to get to the objective just because the other team got there first. You literally cannot approach the objective behind cover within 150m. You have to run out in the open and somehow NOT get killed by the ENTIRE enemy team before you get to the objective. The maps are so badly designed that you CANNOT approach the objective behind cover within 150m of the objective. Why does one team have the objective placed CLOSER to their MCC WITHOUT open ground to run across whilst the other team is faced with 2 railgun installations, 300m of open space and NO COVER. Oh and guess what? I just joined a game, instant redline. On my team was: Burgerzzetf whatever the **** that stupid corp name is UPS Maphia whilst the other team had 16 randoms. hmmmmmm three corps against randoms? That's going to be good for the newbies to get some practice in! Glad to see 1.5 improved the matchmaking! Fix the maps they are terrible, all domination does is produce stalemates where you don't stand a fighting chance of getting to the objective purely because you have to cross a couple hundred metres of open ground and the enemy team got there before you.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 584	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote Domination is fun. Having everyone run towards a single spot on the map means that I get more kills with my MD.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1172	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:38:00 - [3] - Quote I'd say 1 in 10 domination matches is actually a good fight. Usually it's just whoever gets to the objective and spams the most uplinks first wins. Most domination games are decided within the first minute.
CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 273	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:38:00 - [4] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Domination is fun. Having everyone run towards a single spot on the map means that I get more kills with my MD. not when you can't get to the objective. Im on about the map where A is in the middle of the map, that one is ******* horrible. The one before with the installations is that map with hundreds of mountains, a snipers paradise whilst the whole map is practically a fishbowl.
CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 276	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:39:00 - [5] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I'd say 1 in 10 domination matches is actually a good fight. Usually it's just whoever gets to the objective and spams the most uplinks first wins. Most domination games are decided within the first minute. precisely my point, thank you.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1172	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:40:00 - [6] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Domination is fun. Having everyone run towards a single spot on the map means that I get more kills with my MD. not when you can't get to the objective. Im on about the map where A is in the middle of the map, that one is ******* horrible. The one before with the installations is that map with hundreds of mountains, a snipers paradise whilst the whole map is practically a fishbowl. Manus Peak aka a redline sniper's wet dream?
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 29	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:41:00 - [7] - Quote I ONLY play dom. If u don't like it, don't play it. Duhhhh
Rudy Vandersario Famous Wolf 88	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:41:00 - [8] - Quote I know what you mean about that map that expanse with no cover is huge, domination is my favourite game mode though. I like the focus, most of my best (and closest) matches have been domination.

GM Vegas Game Masters C C P Alliance 607	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:43:00 - [9] - Quote Moving this thread to the appropriate feedback section.

Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1172	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:43:00 - [10] - Quote I think the problem with DOM is that the maps they create are generally balanced and created for Skirmish and the domination versions really feel like an afterthought.

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1238	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:44:00 - [11] - Quote This is more a problem with the maps then the game mode. Ideally each game mode would have a unique map selection, as not all maps are interchangable balance wise for game modes. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1363534#post1363534
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 584	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:44:00 - [12] - Quote I particularly like the matches where my team has about 3/4 armor on the MCC whilst the reds are still pushing almost all shields, and then we somehow manage to cap the objective and win the game. Comebacks are great.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1172	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:45:00 - [13] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: This is more a problem with the maps then the game mode. Ideally each game mode would have a unique map selection, as not all maps are interchangable balance wise for game modes. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1363534#post1363534 This guy gets it.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1401	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:45:00 - [14] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I'd say 1 in 10 domination matches is actually a good fight. Usually it's just whoever gets to the objective and spams the most uplinks first wins. Most domination games are decided within the first minute. Well whoever wins doesn't detract from it being a good fight. Barely losing would still be fun for me, it's only when you're absolutely dominated that you feel disgusted. I'd say more like half the games are a pubstomp, and the other half is pretty decent. Certainly, when I'm in a squad, I'm not always with squads and most likely against other squads, but I haven't played 1.5 yet so can't speak for that. And certainly the uplink spam helps but I've noticed my flux grenades do a good job of clearing swaths of badly placed ones. I'm devising a scanner + flux + RE build to clear uplinks and although the REs are hard to detonate because of the spawn invisibility, still pretty fun to use.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1172	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:50:00 - [15] - Quote I hate going to other games as examples but battlefield's domination game mode which is a small version of their Conquest (our skirmish) but without vehicles. This mode takes their large maps, and shrinks them to essentially CQC maps. Now, the biggest problem with some of the maps from BF3 were that they just shrunk the maps, and didn't do any other balancing to them. Now with BF4 the dom maps are smaller and completely different. There is more cover added, more ladders, more places to hide and duck behind. There is cover everywhere. There's boxes, barricades, etc. Our domination modes can be based on the maps we have now but need to be balanced in a unique way other than "hey the red line is different, there's only one point, good luck."
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 713	Posted - 2013.10.10 11:01:00 - [16] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Oh and guess what? I just joined a game, instant redline. On my team was: Burgerzzetf whatever the **** that stupid corp name is UPS Maphia whilst the other team had 16 randoms. hmmmmmm three corps against randoms? That's going to be good for the newbies to get some practice in! Glad to see 1.5 improved the matchmaking! Matchmaking is still a bit...strange? I think it takes into account the total SP on a side and the total SP on the other side, so it is normal that you find yourself in strange situations. I'll set an example: I have 20 mln SP, and decide to join a Domination. If the other team is made up by 5 mln SP merc, I'll find myself alone against 4 of them. But, yeah, I'm not really sure about it right now.
Auraxos Redline Defense Force The Scourge. 10	Posted - 2013.10.18 04:57:00 - [17] - Quote I love Domination, but if the other team gets there first and I still have 200m to go and the only LAV on my team won't take passengers then I'm switching over to my militia fit.
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 13	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:26:00 - [18] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I'd say 1 in 10 domination matches is actually a good fight. Usually it's just whoever gets to the objective and spams the most uplinks first wins. Most domination games are decided within the first minute. You should check out this thread on Using Radiation Zones to Curtail Drop Uplink Use. I think it's a novel way to recondition but not force players to discontinue uplink spam of objectives. Plus it creates a system for highly dynamic play.
Mikey Ducati Xer Cloud Consortium 52	Posted - 2013.11.14 09:52:00 - [19] - Quote The idea is that one side is considered attack and the other defends.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 523	Posted - 2013.11.20 00:41:00 - [20] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: The idea is that one side is considered attack and the other defends. then the defender should control the point at game start. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace

Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1005	Posted - 2013.11.22 08:11:00 - [21] - Quote Played the map yesterday and don't mind, I like being solo on the struggling team. It builds character.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 435	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:17:00 - [22] - Quote Dom is pretty bad,most maps feel as they weren't made to accommodate ANY other mode besides skirmish and all other modes after are mere afterthoughts while the devs try to work with what they got but fail ,so we get a bad modes.The mode is less about domination and more about submission of ,the enemey team,a team that will eventfully not give a **** anymore and stop advancing because of how good of a vic grip the enemy team has on the point .Just uplinlk spam and dog pile surrounding the point while the main forces pushes the opposing force back into the red line from which it came, GG wait 20mins til the game ends, while you watch blues get obliterated by protos and tanks as they drop out of the MCC. I don't think their a way to fix this mode when the grand strategy is to pile a single point,you might as well burn this mode to the ground and build a completely new mode , a better made mode from the ashes with the same name if you really wanted to fix Dom.link A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 111	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:19:00 - [23] - Quote Some maps are stupid. Like the one that has the objective under the two pipes. So aggervating. And some have supply depots at the ground base, while the other side does not. Makes no sense. But whatever. But poor matchmaking and q sync'n try hards are the rest of the problem. Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 124	Posted - 2014.03.03 18:24:00 - [24] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I think the problem with DOM is that the maps they create are generally balanced and created for Skirmish and the domination versions really feel like an afterthought. Considering how this actually was the case (domination was added as a game mode after most of the maps were, at least initially, designed, I find it kind of funny. Although with the exception of Manu's peak, I find all the dom maps pretty even.


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