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Kiiran-B The Rainbow Effect 181	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:41:00 - [1] - Quote I'm guessing players new to the game are still only getting 500,000SP to start with. It would be a better to give them more than that. Since people aren't as interested in grinding as much as having a fair chance.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:42:00 - [2] - Quote They start off in the war academy... seems a 'fair chance' to me. Although I think it should be up to about 15,000-20,000 WP instead.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1031	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:45:00 - [3] - Quote I created a newberry alt yesterday. After two war academy games, in which I did fairly well in, I was dropped headfirst in it with everyone else. This game is uncompomisingly harsh to new players. And its not a good "I want to get better at this" harsh. Its a "OMG WTF, why the frick am I playing this" kind of harsh.
Kiiran-B The Rainbow Effect 181	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:47:00 - [4] - Quote I guess but even that won't prepare them for fighting the veterans. It'd be more appealing if they started with sp they could actually do something with.
Gods Architect Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 663	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:48:00 - [5] - Quote I think they should stay in war academy until they reach 2 or 5 mil sp but it could be toggle off if they think they can hang with us
Kiiran-B The Rainbow Effect 182	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:49:00 - [6] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: I created a newberry alt yesterday. After two war academy games, in which I did fairly well in, I was dropped headfirst in it with everyone else. This game is uncompomisingly harsh to new players. And its not a good "I want to get better at this" harsh. Its a "OMG WTF, why the frick am I playing this" kind of harsh. Exactly this.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 305	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:49:00 - [7] - Quote Gods Architect wrote: I think they should stay in war academy until they reach 2 or 5 mil sp but it could be toggle off if they think they can hang with us The people with higher sp in the academy would literally just be farming the newbs, it wouldn't work.
Cosgar ParagonX 5727	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:50:00 - [8] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: They start off in the war academy... seems a 'fair chance' to me. Although I think it should be up to about 15,000-20,000 WP instead. I'd say raise the cap to 100k WP (or 5,000,000 lifetime SP) with the option to participate in regular battles while enrolled to gauge their skill level and a free (mandatory) respec upon graduation. Maybe even remove the weekly cap until they reach 5,000,000 SP as well.
Kiiran-B The Rainbow Effect 182	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:51:00 - [9] - Quote Gods Architect wrote: I think they should stay in war academy until they reach 2 or 5 mil sp but it could be toggle off if they think they can hang with us Just give them 5mill as a starter. Even that won't help them against guys with over 22 million SP.
Kiiran-B The Rainbow Effect 182	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:52:00 - [10] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: They start off in the war academy... seems a 'fair chance' to me. Although I think it should be up to about 15,000-20,000 WP instead. I'd say raise the cap to 100k WP (or 5,000,000 lifetime SP) with the option to participate in regular battles while enrolled to gauge their skill level and a free (mandatory) respec upon graduation. Maybe even remove the weekly cap until they reach 5,000,000 SP as well. This is definitely going in the right direction. +1

Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 135	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:53:00 - [11] - Quote Gods Architect wrote: I think they should stay in war academy until they reach 2 or 5 mil sp but it could be toggle off if they think they can hang with us This is probably the best idea. Sure other vets could make new PSN's and stomp newbs but if there were more things for vets to do, this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
Chad Michael Murray The Phoenix Federation 44	Posted - 2013.10.08 18:04:00 - [12] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Gods Architect wrote: I think they should stay in war academy until they reach 2 or 5 mil sp but it could be toggle off if they think they can hang with us The people with higher sp in the academy would literally just be farming the newbs, it wouldn't work. Lol, it would be a hell of a lot better than running into players with 20mill SP after moving out of the academy after two whole games.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 70	Posted - 2013.10.08 18:09:00 - [13] - Quote Here is what we need: 70,000 WP They are still in the battle academy, but have the option to play in normal battles, and this acts as a safety net for players who still need more time in the Academy. 125,000 WP Now they are out of the academy and should have a decent view of what role that want to be, along with enough gear to have a chance. And we could also pair the people out of the battle academy untill they reach 150,000 WP just in case.
Cosgar ParagonX 5729	Posted - 2013.10.08 18:12:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: Here is what we need: 70,000 WP They are still in the battle academy, but have the option to play in normal battles, and this acts as a safety net for players who still need more time in the Academy. 125,000 WP Now they are out of the academy and should have a decent view of what role that want to be, along with enough gear to have a chance. And we could also pair the people out of the battle academy untill they reach 150,000 WP just in case. Seems fair. Just keep in mind that one of the peripheral goals of the battle academy is for the matchmaking system to "recognize" the player so that when they do graduate, they won't go up against a full board of EoN players.
Void Echo Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1660	Posted - 2013.10.08 18:14:00 - [15] - Quote last time I gave one of them a chance, they just sat in my turret being useless when they should have gotten out with me to kill the AVers coming from behind, I stand by my prejudice that bluetards are ******* morons
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 380	Posted - 2013.10.08 18:15:00 - [16] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: They start off in the war academy... seems a 'fair chance' to me. Although I think it should be up to about 15,000-20,000 WP instead. I'd say raise the cap to 100k WP (or 5,000,000 lifetime SP) with the option to participate in regular battles while enrolled to gauge their skill level and a free (mandatory) respec upon graduation. Maybe even remove the weekly cap until they reach 5,000,000 SP as well. Well I barely have 130,000 WP but I have 7 million SP and a K/D of 2.2... I easily do the same thing a proto-stomper does.


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