DUST Search - Open world PVP, PVE, and Mining

M McManus wrote:

Mass Heals wrote:

Jayquan18 wrote:

Mass Heals wrote:

I hope that open world pvp is a future for Dust.

I can imagine roaming a flat terrain as a full team, I have my sniper buddy 2 clicks out in the mountains giving us intel of the ground troops we are about to ambush.. Big smile

We don't even have 48 players like they promised. So I HIGHLY doubt will have open world PVP.

If you look at Eve Online 10 years ago, Dust 514 from a year ago, They are expansively different. As Dust develops, the player base will develop with it. CCP is handling the development of Dust is the best way they know how, like Eve. In 5 years time, who said we wont have open world content?

Lol the fan boy is strong with this one..

Explain the present please, "Dust is developing" (if you can call it that) but yet the player base is leaving ?

They can't even roll out a 60mb patch with out bugs, if CCP introduced mining we'll all be future chile miners with no voice comms to call for help.. Good thing its not a public area... /suicide

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Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1189	Posted - 2013.10.08 13:33:00 - [1] - Quote Setting: Large open districts that you can que for that donGÇÖt have matches or time limits. Some outposts scattered around, but mostly wilderness with lots of ravines, outcrops, hills and other cover. PVE: This would also be where you would come to hunt rogue drones if your Corp does not own any Districts. Rogue drones would also pose a threat to people involved in PVP or mining. PVP: Everyone would be yellow dots and potentially hostile except for your squad. Maybe make Corp members blue. Squad is green as normal. Salvage: In a match the salvaging is done when the match is over, but in an open district when there is no match or time limit, salvaging would be done in real time. Bodies of Clones, vehicles, and Drones would persist for 10 minutes or until salvaged. Anything that is equipped has a percentage chance of dropping as salvage. Vehicles can only be salvaged using a salvager arm mounted in the turret slot of a vehicle. Mining: Mining in DUST should be more fun than just shooting lasers at asteroids. It would be more like a combination between Low Sec mining and Planetary interaction in EVE with a more hands on approach. Prospecting: A mineral scanner would be used to find veins of precious ores. They could be mounted on a dropship to cover the district quickly and find the best spots, or mounted on a LAV or HAV. I suppose you could have a handheld version too. The mineral scanner would create a heat map on the radar screen for whatever mineral it was set to. (Hold L1 for hand scanner or another button for vehicles to open the wheel to select the mineral you are scanning for.) The minerals in Drones and Dropsuits would get picked up as well but would produce a fussy reading that would look a bit like a natural outcrop unless they are moving or the scanner operator is really good at interpreting the signal. Have different types of dropsuits have different mineral profiles. Mining: The mining is done with mining turrets which are a combination of mining laser to vaporized the rock, and a tractor beam that sucks in the vaporized rock and minerals. They would come in three turret sizes, with different extraction rates. The mining turret would have a short range directional mineral scanner built in, which would project the heat map for the mineral of your choice on your Heads Up Display, overlayed on the ground in front of you. Your mining yield would depend on the amount of ore at the point where you aim your mining turret. As you mine the amount of ore in the spot you are mining drops as you deplete the mineral from that location. I suggest that CCP drape a 0.5 m grid over each map with each grid square having a value for each mineral. As that grid square, or GÇ£cellGÇ¥, is mined the amount of minerals in that cell decrease, with cell value increases done each day at down time in a way that causes new rich veins to form after old ones are mined out. The Mining Turrets would have some storage capacity to hold ore, but not a lot. Also have Storage Compartments which can be equipped in a Turret slot, which hold substantially more. Have these come in small, medium, and large. Mining Turrets and Storage Compartments would have the ability to eject their contents, and Storage Compartments would have an arm which can pick up stuff to store in the compartment (Operates like a short range turret, since they are in turret slots.) So your squad could put a small mining turret on one LAV and a Storage Compartment on anther LAV and have a little mining operation. If things get hot, you speed out of there. Or you can setup an expensive mining operation using HAVGÇÖs, but it is a trade off since you have to give up turrets to equip Mining Turrets and Storage Compartments. You will have to defend them somehow. So every mining expedition will be a tradeoff between higher yields vs better defence. Ore can be deposited at a freight facility where your ore will be included on the next NPC freighter, and will end up in your inventory. Or you can call for an extraction and have the ore picked up in your vehicles. World PVP: With salvage a mining operation could be a juicy target, just what a squad of ground pirates might be looking for, when they are not picking on lone wolf Drone Hunters. Actual Mercenaries: For a profitable mining operation you need to be able to defend yourself, but if your mining operation is profitable you can afford to hire the best right? What do you guys think of the idea? ____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
Mass Heals Subsonic Synthetics 55	Posted - 2013.10.08 13:38:00 - [2] - Quote I hope that open world pvp is a future for Dust. I can imagine roaming a flat terrain as a full team, I have my sniper buddy 2 clicks out in the mountains giving us intel of the ground troops we are about to ambush..
Jayquan18 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 115	Posted - 2013.10.08 13:46:00 - [3] - Quote Mass Heals wrote: I hope that open world pvp is a future for Dust. I can imagine roaming a flat terrain as a full team, I have my sniper buddy 2 clicks out in the mountains giving us intel of the ground troops we are about to ambush.. We don't even have 48 players like they promised. So I HIGHLY doubt will have open world PVP.
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command 9	Posted - 2013.10.08 13:54:00 - [4] - Quote The dream is what inspires us all to keep being creative and work towards fulfillment. Sounds fun anyways.
Mass Heals Subsonic Synthetics 57	Posted - 2013.10.08 13:55:00 - [5] - Quote Jayquan18 wrote: Mass Heals wrote: I hope that open world pvp is a future for Dust. I can imagine roaming a flat terrain as a full team, I have my sniper buddy 2 clicks out in the mountains giving us intel of the ground troops we are about to ambush.. We don't even have 48 players like they promised. So I HIGHLY doubt will have open world PVP. If you look at Eve Online 10 years ago, Dust 514 from a year ago, They are expansively different. As Dust develops, the player base will develop with it. CCP is handling the development of Dust is the best way they know how, like Eve. In 5 years time, who said we wont have open world content?
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1192	Posted - 2013.10.08 13:59:00 - [6] - Quote We can have an approximation of open world PVP by just having large districts, and even if we are still limited to 32 players in the district, that could be 6 green dots and 26 yellow dots. I like mining because it provides a non arbitrary objective for open world PVP. Also Snipers become lookouts, and drone killing breaks the minority of defending a mining operation.
Jason Punk DUST University Ivy League 263	Posted - 2013.10.08 14:04:00 - [7] - Quote always fun to read these ideas and of course feel free to throw em up on the ol thread ^^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=49714&find=unread I've always kind of liked the prospecting idea over mining or at least a non-laser and waiting version of it.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1192	Posted - 2013.10.08 14:22:00 - [8] - Quote I tried to design my suggested setup so that no current mechanics would need to be changed. A few new things would have to be added though: - Mineral grid overlay. Visible only via mineral scanners, and governing mining yields. - Mineral Scanner modules. - Mining Turrets. - Storage Compartments with lifting arm. - Art work for minerals ejected from a Mining Turret. Could be a reconstituted block sitting on the ground. - Vehicle Salvager (could potentially be combined with the Storage Compartment module.) - Mineral composition of different dropsuits and vehicles. These mineral values would get added to mineral value of the cell they are on top of in the mineral grid when scanned by a Mineral Scanner. - Larger district maps. Created by pulling the Red line back from the existing district maps, so that you have outposts in the middle and wilderness out farther. - Freight facilities for dropping off ore. Would be fitted into existing sockets near the middle of the map. (The point is to make people travel across the map, which adds the aspect of defending convoys etc.) Also requires Rogue Drones, but we have been promised those anyway. Can use existing HAVGÇÖs, LAVGÇÖs, and Dropships with all the defensive and offensive modules that exist for PVP. Only they will have to give up some of these to fit the mining stuff. ____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1192	Posted - 2013.10.08 14:24:00 - [9] - Quote Jason Punk wrote: always fun to read these ideas and of course feel free to throw em up on the ol thread ^^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=49714&find=unread I've always kind of liked the prospecting idea over mining or at least a non-laser and waiting version of it. Should I copy and paste this into your thread, or will you just put a link to this one? Good to see you active again Jason.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 123	Posted - 2013.10.08 14:38:00 - [10] - Quote Mass Heals wrote: Jayquan18 wrote: Mass Heals wrote: I hope that open world pvp is a future for Dust. I can imagine roaming a flat terrain as a full team, I have my sniper buddy 2 clicks out in the mountains giving us intel of the ground troops we are about to ambush.. We don't even have 48 players like they promised. So I HIGHLY doubt will have open world PVP. If you look at Eve Online 10 years ago, Dust 514 from a year ago, They are expansively different. As Dust develops, the player base will develop with it. CCP is handling the development of Dust is the best way they know how, like Eve. In 5 years time, who said we wont have open world content? Lol the fan boy is strong with this one.. Explain the present please, "Dust is developing" (if you can call it that) but yet the player base is leaving ? They can't even roll out a 60mb patch with out bugs, if CCP introduced mining we'll all be future chile miners with no voice comms to call for help.. Good thing its not a public area... /suicide

Mass Heals Subsonic Synthetics 63	Posted - 2013.10.08 14:54:00 - [11] - Quote M McManus wrote: Mass Heals wrote: Jayquan18 wrote: Mass Heals wrote: I hope that open world pvp is a future for Dust. I can imagine roaming a flat terrain as a full team, I have my sniper buddy 2 clicks out in the mountains giving us intel of the ground troops we are about to ambush.. We don't even have 48 players like they promised. So I HIGHLY doubt will have open world PVP. If you look at Eve Online 10 years ago, Dust 514 from a year ago, They are expansively different. As Dust develops, the player base will develop with it. CCP is handling the development of Dust is the best way they know how, like Eve. In 5 years time, who said we wont have open world content? Lol the fan boy is strong with this one.. Explain the present please, "Dust is developing" (if you can call it that) but yet the player base is leaving ? They can't even roll out a 60mb patch with out bugs, if CCP introduced mining we'll all be future chile miners with no voice comms to call for help.. Good thing its not a public area... /suicide Did you play Dust when uprising first came out? How about open beta? Closed beta?! The development of this game is outstanding from where it has been, unfortunately others need INSTANT GRATIFICATION for it to ever be acceptable. If you are unhappy with Dust's direction, take a break for a few months but please come back! Because I promise you the game will be more different. I have faith its for the better.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 353	Posted - 2013.10.08 16:13:00 - [12] - Quote Mass Heals wrote: Jayquan18 wrote: Mass Heals wrote: I hope that open world pvp is a future for Dust. I can imagine roaming a flat terrain as a full team, I have my sniper buddy 2 clicks out in the mountains giving us intel of the ground troops we are about to ambush.. We don't even have 48 players like they promised. So I HIGHLY doubt will have open world PVP. If you look at Eve Online 10 years ago, Dust 514 from a year ago, They are expansively different. As Dust develops, the player base will develop with it. CCP is handling the development of Dust is the best way they know how, like Eve. In 5 years time, who said we wont have open world content? That is their mistake, unlike Eve there is competition in the FPS market and we console players will move on to the new better thing quickly. CCP is damn lucky that Titanfall will be a Microsoft exclusive, but a new Killzone is coming and a few months after that Destiny and these are just the sci-fi FPS games. There is also CoD and Battlefield 4 for those just wanting to get their competitive game on. Oh plus I'm sure I and others will give Planetside 2 a try when the PS4 drops. This isn't to say Dust is dead or that I want it to be, but CCP started with a vision of bringing a different sort of game to the console FPS market and have lost their way somewhere along the path. They had better find their way back to the vision soon because they cannot assume they just have years to get it right like they did with Eve.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1195	Posted - 2013.10.08 17:06:00 - [13] - Quote So, would my suggestion for open world PVP, PVE, and Mining make DUST 514 stand out, or help to differentiate it from the other games out there?


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