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ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 282	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:17:00 - [1] - Quote EMP strikes= Are Epic when used properly. Laser strikes= Are tank busters and infantry killers and drop super fast. Hybrid tactical= Your nomal but powerful cannon strike much more effective then the regular orbital. Soon from what i heard regular orbital strikes found and used daily are going to be removed so that this game is more interacted with Eve. But what will happen to corps not in alliances doing planetary conquest? will they have 0 air support? or will the standard orbital pop up in the menu for them to use? Anyway there are supposed to be more orbitals as well so my question is which one to date is the best in your opinion?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2687	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:21:00 - [2] - Quote Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1659	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:22:00 - [3] - Quote I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 282	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:24:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway. Emp is honestly a good strike for when in pc and your letters get overrun by uplinks and you want to take control of a city but point wise very useless but once the points for destroying uplinks and ammohives arrive this strike will have a strong use and meaning.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 282	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:26:00 - [5] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2687	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:28:00 - [6] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway. Emp is honestly a good strike for when in pc and your letters get overrun by uplinks and you want to take control of a city but point wise very useless but once the points for destroying uplinks and ammohives arrive this strike will have a strong use and meaning. This rarely happens in FW, the issue with EMP is that it is not a reliable strike for FW since only a handful of groups are co-operative enough to lay down those levels of uplinks and should an FW ship deploy to the Warzone and not need to use EMP to lay down that kind tactically motivated strike they have no means of killing or destroying the high value targets their squad may need. Should a fleet be present then that would change things.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 284	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:29:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway. emp doesnt and isnt supposed to kill infantry tho. it works on shields and any equipment on field including friendly. we use it in pc matches quite often and it helps alot not only that but its hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i think it takes up a quarter of the map so very helpful when enemy reds are grouping up dropping uplinks armor repair hives and reg hives as well.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2687	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:30:00 - [8] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol Why would FW fleet want to hire themselves out to you? It requires no skils to fit OB strikes for trial game ships? Why not have one corporate EVE pilot with plenty of ISK worth of ships bought and run cheap OB's out of home systems?
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 284	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:31:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway. Emp is honestly a good strike for when in pc and your letters get overrun by uplinks and you want to take control of a city but point wise very useless but once the points for destroying uplinks and ammohives arrive this strike will have a strong use and meaning. This rarely happens in FW, the issue with EMP is that it is not a reliable strike for FW since only a handful of groups are co-operative enough to lay down those levels of uplinks and should an FW ship deploy to the Warzone and not need to use EMP to lay down that kind tactically motivated strike they have no means of killing or destroying the high value targets their squad may need. Should a fleet be present then that would change things. i agree with you on fw. fw needs alot of tweaking tho not only that but needs a meaning because right now the only differance between fw and pub que is you get to pick a race. and many go with the winning side which makes it hard to que for that faction lately we been queing up for amarr and caldari to just get a few games in. 100% agree with you on your point made here
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 284	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:33:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol Why would FW fleet want to hire themselves out to you? It requires no skils to fit OB strikes for trial game ships? Why not have one corporate EVE pilot with plenty of ISK worth of ships bought and run cheap OB's out of home systems? not every corp has eve support tho is what we were saying

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2687	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:36:00 - [11] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol Why would FW fleet want to hire themselves out to you? It requires no skils to fit OB strikes for trial game ships? Why not have one corporate EVE pilot with plenty of ISK worth of ships bought and run cheap OB's out of home systems? not every corp has eve support tho is what we were saying no they don't but they could easily have it simply by recruiting EVE players, or making their own communal ones. I'm sure you know this, since you are a veteran, and a skilled player, but New Eden isn't fair. The biggest and baddest kids who get the shinest toys will always win if you let them.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2687	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:37:00 - [12] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway. Emp is honestly a good strike for when in pc and your letters get overrun by uplinks and you want to take control of a city but point wise very useless but once the points for destroying uplinks and ammohives arrive this strike will have a strong use and meaning. This rarely happens in FW, the issue with EMP is that it is not a reliable strike for FW since only a handful of groups are co-operative enough to lay down those levels of uplinks and should an FW ship deploy to the Warzone and not need to use EMP to lay down that kind tactically motivated strike they have no means of killing or destroying the high value targets their squad may need. Should a fleet be present then that would change things. i agree with you on fw. fw needs alot of tweaking tho not only that but needs a meaning because right now the only differance between fw and pub que is you get to pick a race. and many go with the winning side which makes it hard to que for that faction lately we been queing up for amarr and caldari to just get a few games in. 100% agree with you on your point made here Also because the system itself is broken as you may have seen, and I have seen your guys, mainly akubaris who goes one game as the perfect taking ally to the guy who blows us two of my tanks while Im staring at his mate on a roof top.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 285	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:41:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol Why would FW fleet want to hire themselves out to you? It requires no skils to fit OB strikes for trial game ships? Why not have one corporate EVE pilot with plenty of ISK worth of ships bought and run cheap OB's out of home systems? not every corp has eve support tho is what we were saying no they don't but they could easily have it simply by recruiting EVE players, or making their own communal ones. I'm sure you know this, since you are a veteran, and a skilled player, but New Eden isn't fair. The biggest and baddest kids who get the shinest toys will always win if you let them. its hard to recruit eve players most of them are set in a home or want to invade yours to screw you over eve is a very dirty dirty evil place man. i know
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1659	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:41:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol Why would FW fleet want to hire themselves out to you? It requires no skils to fit OB strikes for trial game ships? Why not have one corporate EVE pilot with plenty of ISK worth of ships bought and run cheap OB's out of home systems? I guess that is fair enough... but how the hell we suppose to recruit pilots ? At the moment EvE and Dust are two Universe apart... no where near "One Universe".
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 285	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:42:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: True Adamance wrote: Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway. Emp is honestly a good strike for when in pc and your letters get overrun by uplinks and you want to take control of a city but point wise very useless but once the points for destroying uplinks and ammohives arrive this strike will have a strong use and meaning. This rarely happens in FW, the issue with EMP is that it is not a reliable strike for FW since only a handful of groups are co-operative enough to lay down those levels of uplinks and should an FW ship deploy to the Warzone and not need to use EMP to lay down that kind tactically motivated strike they have no means of killing or destroying the high value targets their squad may need. Should a fleet be present then that would change things. i agree with you on fw. fw needs alot of tweaking tho not only that but needs a meaning because right now the only differance between fw and pub que is you get to pick a race. and many go with the winning side which makes it hard to que for that faction lately we been queing up for amarr and caldari to just get a few games in. 100% agree with you on your point made here Also because the system itself is broken as you may have seen, and I have seen your guys, mainly akubaris who goes one game as the perfect taking ally to the guy who blows us two of my tanks while Im staring at his mate on a roof top. lol kirby is deadly with his tanks mainly a great flanker if you dont see him he willget you
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 285	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:43:00 - [16] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol Why would FW fleet want to hire themselves out to you? It requires no skils to fit OB strikes for trial game ships? Why not have one corporate EVE pilot with plenty of ISK worth of ships bought and run cheap OB's out of home systems? I guess that is fair enough... but how the hell we suppose to recruit pilots ? At the moment EvE and Dust are two Universe apart... no where near "One Universe". at this rate its more less a corner universe
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2634	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:52:00 - [17] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: But what will happen to corps not in alliances doing planetary conquest? will they have 0 air support? Yup, sounds fair to me. I mean, it's not like you need an OB to win. They just help. If you aren't going to take the time to make allies in EVE, well tough sleddin'. And look, even if OBs were absolutely necessary to win, then here's how things would play out. 1) Corporations who don't make allies in EVE will slowly lose out and disappear from PC 2) Corporations with EVE allies, whether they already had it or found a way to get it because they are adaptable, will gain territory in PC. 3) Players from corps no longer in PC will either look to join corps with EVE support or stick around in pubs and FW where they make the same dirt income as everyone else. Ultimately this makes the game better, because it puts a stronger emphasis on the EVE/Dust link. The only place NPC warbarge strikes should exists is in public contracts.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2687	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:52:00 - [18] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: True Adamance wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: I been wondering about that too... how Corps without links to EvE are going to survive ? Dust Mercs can buy OB's from EvE players ? Some clarification will be nice CCP. unless fw fleets will be rentable in planetary conquest i dont see how this will work and even then wont happen if dust to eve transfers arent unlocked. how will ppl pay? that and also another question i forgot to ask is if dust is supposed to make much more isk then eve why are we getting paid such ****** isk in games? up the isk profit already lol Why would FW fleet want to hire themselves out to you? It requires no skils to fit OB strikes for trial game ships? Why not have one corporate EVE pilot with plenty of ISK worth of ships bought and run cheap OB's out of home systems? I guess that is fair enough... but how the hell we suppose to recruit pilots ? At the moment EvE and Dust are two Universe apart... no where near "One Universe". at this rate its more less a corner universe Hit locals , start trial accounts, use the forums to recruit linked eve dust players, then work from there. Dead Six had 1 EVE player back in the day, we recruited and now theyre and eve primary corp.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 524	Posted - 2013.10.08 10:13:00 - [19] - Quote Hell, I might start my one of my EVE accounts back up to provide orbitals. Would be nice to get paid through my DUST char to provide them.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 287	Posted - 2013.10.08 10:58:00 - [20] - Quote good idea

CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 385	Posted - 2013.10.08 11:17:00 - [21] - Quote Yea I have to agree here, any eve player worth a damn, or even 1/4 of a damn isn't going to be interested in bombing for DUST Bunnies. There is a lack of money, any amount the dust players would be willing to give would be pittance to eve players. There is also an inherent danger to them as well. CCP needs to do what they have said they are going to do, make it both easier to see where orbitals can be dropped AND more importantly make it worth while for eve guys to get involved. For an eve player, even your average new player - 10s of millions is easily achieved, 100's of millions too. Any sort of advanced or seasoned eve player will probably be looking at over a billion in their wallet. So this is way to rich for the blood of mercs down here. CCP needs to make a great big feature out of this, with development to both the dust and eve side of the games.
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 389	Posted - 2013.10.08 11:30:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Laser is the best and utterly most devastating tank buster Strike we have available to us In Fleet. The Hybrid is also very useful as \we can carpet bomb am area as we see fit, both destroying infantry and damaging vehicles enough for me to destroy, the EMP is useless though, it rarely works unless we can get people out in the open..... but since we are Amarrian we have no trouble destroying shields anyway. the amarian reign begins
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 287	Posted - 2013.10.08 11:37:00 - [23] - Quote bolt you should get your eve connected and teach me how to play im dying to learn bro.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1294	Posted - 2013.10.08 12:10:00 - [24] - Quote If OB dissappear from PC/FW and even lolpubs im fine with that PC/FW is supposed to include EVE players for support instead we dont need them because warbarge strike so really the EVE players dont make or break a game at all lolpubs is lolpubs and warbarge strikes just makes it worse and now it will be super easy to get 2.5k with even more WP to get now so a 6man group should easily get at least 4 strikes in a match
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 385	Posted - 2013.10.08 12:15:00 - [25] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: bolt you should get your eve connected and teach me how to play im dying to learn bro. I'm gonna resub one of my accounts for that new EVE expansion, looks kinda cool. So yea man I will teach ya some stuff. I''l be on dust today, gonna see about this patch.


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