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Khemlar Maktaar
Robbing The Hood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.06 02:57:00 -
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Right now i have done the numbers and boy will you be suprised
Proto assault forge with prof 5 and 2 10%damage mods does roughly 2000(shield)2600(armor) damage
Proto swarms with prof 5 2 10% damage mods does 1800(shield) 3600(armor damage)
i think the main problem is not proto vs std damage per say more the progression swarms and grenades do specificly they both gain 50$ compared to 10% from handheld weapons and 20% forge guns get. I think thats the main reason for the stupidily high 4k per grenade to the back damage thats so op with prot grenades and dont forget they did more before nerf>< 2 shotted tanks much ! Anyway i would like to see other peoples opinions on this matter on a final note i think swams should start at 6 swarms doing 220 damage each for a total of 1320 damage per volley and increases damage by 10 per tier and lowerinf grnades from 25%damage per tier to 10% so locus from 400/500/600 to 400/440/480 still keeping the aoe increaseand also the same fixes to other grenade types i know this is messy i will probably fix it tommorow its late atm and im tired. PS thanks for any insight and opinions from the dust bunnies the dieing race! |
Khemlar Maktaar
Robbing The Hood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:25:00 -
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Realy no one ? |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:50:00 -
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You're exactly right. The proto Swarm is slightly OP in my opinion, and that is mostly because of the huge increase from standard tier, which as you say is a 50% damage increase.
That has to be lowered to a 20% damage increase from standard to proto just like the Forge Gun has a 20% damage increase from standard to proto. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:50:00 -
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What's the point in discussing either of these before we find out what their changes are going to be for 1.6? |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2650
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:51:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:What's the point in discussing either of these before we find out what their changes are going to be for 1.6?
You mean 1.7, right? Since Weapons and Vehicles were both kicked back from 1.6? |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1592
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:08:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Django Quik wrote:What's the point in discussing either of these before we find out what their changes are going to be for 1.6? You mean 1.7, right? Since Weapons and Vehicles were both kicked back from 1.6?
Well, whenever the changes come, they are coming. There's zero point in discussing the AV balance until we find out what those changes are going to be. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
278
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:22:00 -
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Lulz, everyone know that plasma cannon is true op AV. |
Khemlar Maktaar
Robbing The Hood
Public Disorder.
17
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:57:00 -
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This has nothing to do with the vehical changes this is just showing u how enormous the swarms do damage wise right now and have been since closed beta |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2648
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:58:00 -
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Khemlar Maktaar wrote:Right now i have done the numbers.
Proto assault forge with prof 5 and 2 10%damage mods does roughly 2000(shield)2600(armor) damage
Proto swarms with prof 5 2 10% damage mods does 1800(shield) 3600(armor) damage
I think the main problem is not proto vs std damage per say more the progression swarms and grenades do specificly they both gain 50% compared to 10% from handheld weapons and 20% forge guns get. I think thats the main reason for the stupidily high 4k per grenade to the back damage thats so op with proto grenades and dont forget they did more before nerf>< 2 shotting tanks much !
Anyway i would like to see other peoples opinions on this matter on a final note i think swams should start at 6 swarms doing 220 damage each for a total of 1320 damage per volley and increases damage by 10 per tier and lowering grnades from 25%damage per tier to 10% so locus from 400/500/600 to 400/440/480 still keeping the aoe increaseand also the same fixes to other grenade types. PS thanks for any insight and opinions from the dust bunnies the dieing race!
The issue with Av are the skills that modify the weapons. While most weapons recieve 5% bonues or even less AV gets totals of 30+%. With the huge base damage that is a real boost to your alpha damage. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2650
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:59:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:Lulz, everyone know that plasma cannon is true op AV.
Commander Marquess and Hally Tari Tari make them look OP. 20+ Kills or more per match for a tenth the deaths. |
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itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
280
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Posted - 2013.10.07 04:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:itsmellslikefish wrote:Lulz, everyone know that plasma cannon is true op AV. Commander Marquess and Hally Tari Tari make them look OP. 20+ Kills or more per match for a tenth the deaths.
Yup, I'm trying to go proto with em, right now I get around 10-15 kills 5deaths with an adv suit. My favorite is snipers. Angle it just right and you can watch them while they try and focus on your head, then you see the ssatisfying +50. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2651
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Posted - 2013.10.07 04:27:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:True Adamance wrote:itsmellslikefish wrote:Lulz, everyone know that plasma cannon is true op AV. Commander Marquess and Hally Tari Tari make them look OP. 20+ Kills or more per match for a tenth the deaths. Yup, I'm trying to go proto with em, right now I get around 10-15 kills 5deaths with an adv suit. My favorite is snipers. Angle it just right and you can watch them while they try and focus on your head, then you see the ssatisfying +50.
Was in match where Hally score a 110 metre kill..... that's nuts. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
281
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Posted - 2013.10.07 04:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:itsmellslikefish wrote:True Adamance wrote:itsmellslikefish wrote:Lulz, everyone know that plasma cannon is true op AV. Commander Marquess and Hally Tari Tari make them look OP. 20+ Kills or more per match for a tenth the deaths. Yup, I'm trying to go proto with em, right now I get around 10-15 kills 5deaths with an adv suit. My favorite is snipers. Angle it just right and you can watch them while they try and focus on your head, then you see the ssatisfying +50. Was in match where Hally score a 110 metre kill..... that's nuts.
Wow that's crazy, someone gets killed by that from that far away was either at the wrong place at the wrong time or just god awful at this game. |
Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
1395
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Posted - 2013.10.07 05:45:00 -
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Swarms are easy mode.
Its funny popping a tank that cost prolly 1.5 mil using 23k worth of equipment.
They need to lower tank prices by 1/3. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
420
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Posted - 2013.10.07 05:50:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:Lulz, everyone know that plasma cannon is true op AV.
That's right *cough* because they steal *choke* my FG kills *cough* all the time. BWAHAHAHHAAHA aaaaaah.
Good post man love that sarcasm. +1. |
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