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Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

I have asked about return of the ADS as was-ish, it's role was extremely well cut out and distinctive and should serve as a staple for future roles.

I am still also asking about the state of AV weapons overall and something given to the public; not the few I know that are getting adjusted performance wise.

I would still rather they put together a proper Gunship-type vehicle based on a similar flight model to replace the Assault Dropship, as I've never been fond of what appeared to be this necessity to have Dropships be the ONLY option when it came to aircraft.

A proper Gunship would be a wonderful and much needed replacement for the ADS, and I'm hoping this also means we'll never see the pile of fail known as the Bomber Dropship sully our skies.

Couldn't agree more with the bomber dropship, However I disagree with what you said about the Assault Dropship. A lot of people think that the Assault dropship is a 'gun'ship but this is simply not the case. It is still a dropship, designed for transporting a small squad around the map fast with more fire power than a standard dropship, hence the name 'Assault' Dropship. I would love to see a proper gunship, maybe have it be a heavy aircraft? but this is a discussion for another thread.

Right, I realize it isn't a Gunship, but I frequently see it used as one, and the loss of two seats really hampers its ability to act as a troop transport.

I guess it puts me in mind of the difference between the Hueys and Little Birds in Battlefield 3. The Little Birds have guns, but have less seats and no side guns, trading those for being faster and far more maneuverable. I'd love to see an ADS redesigned to have no internal seats, but rather have the occupants on the outside and able to fire their weapons from the aircraft.

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Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 253	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:28:00 - [1] - Quote Can someone from team kong please give me a date or even an estimated date for when the Assault dropship will be added back to the game? With the news of the variants being taken out I think I have to stop playing dust for a while. I would really like to know when I will be able to fly my assault dropships again, since I have spent hundreads of millions of ISK into my hanger. Two more questions you could answer, 1.) What will happen with all of my assault dropships? will they simply vanish? will I be getting some sort of ISK return? 2.) What will happen to all of my SP that I have skilled into the variants? Will I be getting an SP return? Or will I simply have SP into things that don't exist anymore? very sad news team kong.....very sad, you are making quite a few pilots in Condor squad sad condors I'm wondering how many pilots will be in the channel after 1.6 Pvt Numnutz, veteran pilot since beta
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 514	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote THEY ARE TAKING AWAY MY INCUBUS!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!
Crimson Judgment ROGUE SPADES EoN. 126	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:49:00 - [3] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: THEY ARE TAKING AWAY MY INCUBUS!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??! strange your name would suggest that you'd be more angry about the loss of your prometheus lol but yes and my python and his python and that guys incubus and his eyrix and so on and what they're leaving us with is a slightly hp buffed standard ship that's just as slow as the logi ship with less hp and no built in CRU its gunna suck i would like to say we've endured worse but i honestly don't think we have
medomai grey warravens League of Infamy 183	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:49:00 - [4] - Quote You know calling yourself a "vet" on the forums has a negative connotation associated with it, right? Especially when most who call themselves "vets" on the forums usually complain about something killing them. But yea, sad to see assault dropships go. I plan to spec into them after I max out the pilot dropsuit. They'll eventually come back if "vet" tankers learn to stop blaming their gear and accept the fact that they just suck at tanking.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9167	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:55:00 - [5] - Quote I have asked about return of the ADS as was-ish, it's role was extremely well cut out and distinctive and should serve as a staple for future roles. I am still also asking about the state of AV weapons overall and something given to the public; not the few I know that are getting adjusted performance wise.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 514	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:55:00 - [6] - Quote Crimson Judgment wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: THEY ARE TAKING AWAY MY INCUBUS!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??! strange your name would suggest that you'd be more angry about the loss of your prometheus lol but yes and my python and his python and that guys incubus and his eyrix and so on and what they're leaving us with is a slightly hp buffed standard ship that's just as slow as the logi ship with less hp and no built in CRU its gunna suck i would like to say we've endured worse but i honestly don't think we have Lol I learned to fly prometheus ships first and then ADS....but I grew to like the ADS more.....now I will stay in my merc quarters sulking and raging that my lovely "phantom" is gone :'(
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1054	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:56:00 - [7] - Quote medomai grey wrote: You know calling yourself a "vet" on the forums has a negative connotation associated with it, right? Especially when most who call themselves "vets" on the forums usually complain about something killing them. But yea, sad to see assault dropships go. I plan to spec into them after I max out the pilot dropsuit. They'll eventually come back if "vet" tankers learn to stop blaming their gear and accept the fact that they just suck at tanking. lol
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6718	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:59:00 - [8] - Quote Glory to the Logi The new Grimsnes is basically a super Prometheus, good pilots are going to get a lot of mileage out of the changes. It just really sucks for Assault pilots because that's a vastly different playstyle. :/
Sylwester Dziewiecki Beyond Hypothetical Box 179	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:00:00 - [9] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Can someone from team kong please give me a date or even an estimated date for when the Assault dropship will be added back to the game? With the news of the variants being taken out I think I have to stop playing dust for a while. I would really like to know when I will be able to fly my assault dropships again, since I have spent hundreads of millions of ISK into my hanger. Two more questions you could answer, 1.) What will happen with all of my assault dropships? will they simply vanish? will I be getting some sort of ISK return? 2.) What will happen to all of my SP that I have skilled into the variants? Will I be getting an SP return? Or will I simply have SP into things that don't exist anymore? very sad news team kong.....very sad, you are making quite a few pilots in Condor squad sad condors I'm wondering how many pilots will be in the channel after 1.6 Pvt Numnutz, veteran pilot since beta Can I have your stuff?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3669	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:02:00 - [10] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Can someone from team kong please give me a date or even an estimated date for when the Assault dropship will be added back to the game? With the news of the variants being taken out I think I have to stop playing dust for a while. I would really like to know when I will be able to fly my assault dropships again, since I have spent hundreads of millions of ISK into my hanger. Two more questions you could answer, 1.) What will happen with all of my assault dropships? will they simply vanish? will I be getting some sort of ISK return? 2.) What will happen to all of my SP that I have skilled into the variants? Will I be getting an SP return? Or will I simply have SP into things that don't exist anymore? very sad news team kong.....very sad, you are making quite a few pilots in Condor squad sad condors I'm wondering how many pilots will be in the channel after 1.6 Pvt Numnutz, veteran pilot since beta Can I have your stuff? He doesn't have any, he's a dropship pilot.

Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 514	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:08:00 - [11] - Quote Forgot to ask....when are they removing the ADS and LDS?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9168	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:09:00 - [12] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Forgot to ask....when are they removing the ADS and LDS? When its scheduled, not 1.6 at least.
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 254	Posted - 2013.10.04 06:19:00 - [13] - Quote medomai grey wrote: You know calling yourself a "vet" on the forums has a negative connotation associated with it, right? Especially when most who call themselves "vets" on the forums usually complain about something killing them. But yea, sad to see assault dropships go. I plan to spec into them after I max out the pilot dropsuit. They'll eventually come back if "vet" tankers learn to stop blaming their gear and accept the fact that they just suck at tanking. Well that's one way of looking at it. I call myself a vet because I have been flying since closed beta. The moment I created a character I knew exactly what I wanted to be, a dropship pilot. Few games have dropships, even fewer have made good dropships and ever since I have been a dedicated pilot. I believe I've spent 12 mil+ SP into vehicles and my dropships and well over 300 Million buying them. Further more I call my self a Veteran pilot because I have flown through all of the builds and lost hundreds of dropships honing my skills and becoming a 'Veteran' 'Hotshot' 'ace' pilot, or what ever you want to call it. Please also note that most of my forums posts have been about making interesting changes to dropships and constructive ways of balancing the AV/Dropship game. I hate the term 'nerf' and use it as little as possible. So I hope you can re-read my OP with the term 'Veteran' meaning an experienced pilot seriously concerned about his job in new eden, instead of someone mindlessly complaining.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3688	Posted - 2013.10.04 06:22:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have asked about return of the ADS as was-ish, it's role was extremely well cut out and distinctive and should serve as a staple for future roles. I am still also asking about the state of AV weapons overall and something given to the public; not the few I know that are getting adjusted performance wise. I would still rather they put together a proper Gunship-type vehicle based on a similar flight model to replace the Assault Dropship, as I've never been fond of what appeared to be this necessity to have Dropships be the ONLY option when it came to aircraft. A proper Gunship would be a wonderful and much needed replacement for the ADS, and I'm hoping this also means we'll never see the pile of fail known as the Bomber Dropship sully our skies.
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 254	Posted - 2013.10.04 06:24:00 - [15] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have asked about return of the ADS as was-ish, it's role was extremely well cut out and distinctive and should serve as a staple for future roles. I am still also asking about the state of AV weapons overall and something given to the public; not the few I know that are getting adjusted performance wise. Thank you very much Iron Wolf, means a lot coming from the CPM! Thank you for voicing concerns of us few dedicated pilots. If they get back to you with any information I would really appreciate it if you would post it here! again thank you!
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 254	Posted - 2013.10.04 06:28:00 - [16] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have asked about return of the ADS as was-ish, it's role was extremely well cut out and distinctive and should serve as a staple for future roles. I am still also asking about the state of AV weapons overall and something given to the public; not the few I know that are getting adjusted performance wise. I would still rather they put together a proper Gunship-type vehicle based on a similar flight model to replace the Assault Dropship, as I've never been fond of what appeared to be this necessity to have Dropships be the ONLY option when it came to aircraft. A proper Gunship would be a wonderful and much needed replacement for the ADS, and I'm hoping this also means we'll never see the pile of fail known as the Bomber Dropship sully our skies. Couldn't agree more with the bomber dropship, However I disagree with what you said about the Assault Dropship. A lot of people think that the Assault dropship is a 'gun'ship but this is simply not the case. It is still a dropship, designed for transporting a small squad around the map fast with more fire power than a standard dropship, hence the name 'Assault' Dropship. I would love to see a proper gunship, maybe have it be a heavy aircraft? but this is a discussion for another thread.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3688	Posted - 2013.10.04 06:36:00 - [17] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have asked about return of the ADS as was-ish, it's role was extremely well cut out and distinctive and should serve as a staple for future roles. I am still also asking about the state of AV weapons overall and something given to the public; not the few I know that are getting adjusted performance wise. I would still rather they put together a proper Gunship-type vehicle based on a similar flight model to replace the Assault Dropship, as I've never been fond of what appeared to be this necessity to have Dropships be the ONLY option when it came to aircraft. A proper Gunship would be a wonderful and much needed replacement for the ADS, and I'm hoping this also means we'll never see the pile of fail known as the Bomber Dropship sully our skies. Couldn't agree more with the bomber dropship, However I disagree with what you said about the Assault Dropship. A lot of people think that the Assault dropship is a 'gun'ship but this is simply not the case. It is still a dropship, designed for transporting a small squad around the map fast with more fire power than a standard dropship, hence the name 'Assault' Dropship. I would love to see a proper gunship, maybe have it be a heavy aircraft? but this is a discussion for another thread. Right, I realize it isn't a Gunship, but I frequently see it used as one, and the loss of two seats really hampers its ability to act as a troop transport. I guess it puts me in mind of the difference between the Hueys and Little Birds in Battlefield 3. The Little Birds have guns, but have less seats and no side guns, trading those for being faster and far more maneuverable. I'd love to see an ADS redesigned to have no internal seats, but rather have the occupants on the outside and able to fire their weapons from the aircraft.
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 254	Posted - 2013.10.04 06:51:00 - [18] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have asked about return of the ADS as was-ish, it's role was extremely well cut out and distinctive and should serve as a staple for future roles. I am still also asking about the state of AV weapons overall and something given to the public; not the few I know that are getting adjusted performance wise. I would still rather they put together a proper Gunship-type vehicle based on a similar flight model to replace the Assault Dropship, as I've never been fond of what appeared to be this necessity to have Dropships be the ONLY option when it came to aircraft. A proper Gunship would be a wonderful and much needed replacement for the ADS, and I'm hoping this also means we'll never see the pile of fail known as the Bomber Dropship sully our skies. Couldn't agree more with the bomber dropship, However I disagree with what you said about the Assault Dropship. A lot of people think that the Assault dropship is a 'gun'ship but this is simply not the case. It is still a dropship, designed for transporting a small squad around the map fast with more fire power than a standard dropship, hence the name 'Assault' Dropship. I would love to see a proper gunship, maybe have it be a heavy aircraft? but this is a discussion for another thread. Right, I realize it isn't a Gunship, but I frequently see it used as one, and the loss of two seats really hampers its ability to act as a troop transport. I guess it puts me in mind of the difference between the Hueys and Little Birds in Battlefield 3. The Little Birds have guns, but have less seats and no side guns, trading those for being faster and far more maneuverable. I'd love to see an ADS redesigned to have no internal seats, but rather have the occupants on the outside and able to fire their weapons from the aircraft. haha I'm pretty sure we only have to wait for minmatar dropships to have mercs clinging to the side of the dropships There should absolutely be a gunship, though it shouldn't have any seats for transporting. That's a dropships job I could see how someone might see me and think I'm being a gunship, however that's mostly due to the fact that pilots only get paid by how many mercs they kill. There are really only two times I use my pilot gun, When the target my gunners are hitting requires the additional DPS e.g. a tank. or when the ground target requires all 4 mercs to assault leaving me with no gunners, but a small missile turret that allows me to provide some fire support. I believe this is what it was designed for and using it this way makes missions a lot easier as my gunners can do the slaying and I can do the flying. Most of this 'gunship syndrome' stems from the lack of WP for transporting which is what i was really looking forward to in 1.5.....1.6.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 620	Posted - 2013.10.04 07:11:00 - [19] - Quote they're taking the assault dropships because warpoints are about to change. they're also removing them because (I think) they're going to let all passengers fire from the dropship. I also think they're taking it out because it leads to dropship pilots stopping their ships, getting ganked, and then qqing on the forums about how they need more hitpoints. (this isn't a jab at the op, I just see that happen a lot)
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 255	Posted - 2013.10.04 07:29:00 - [20] - Quote low genius wrote: they're taking the assault dropships because warpoints are about to change. they're also removing them because (I think) they're going to let all passengers fire from the dropship. I also think they're taking it out because it leads to dropship pilots stopping their ships, getting ganked, and then qqing on the forums about how they need more hitpoints. (this isn't a jab at the op, I just see that happen a lot) Pilots have been asking for more HP since beta. Its something we have needed before we even had the ADS. gunship syndrome does affect pilots, and the fact that we would only get WP for kills really added to mercs seeing ADS pilots outlasting their welcome, and missing the window of engagement. I still don't see that as a legitimate reason to remove the variants all together....especially with transport WP coming in.

Beld Errmon Evocatius 956	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:13:00 - [21] - Quote its absolutely ridiculous that they are taking the ADS and logiDS out of the game, they wouldn't take away peoples assault rifle or shotgun, why take out my gawd damn dropship.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 517	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:27:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Forgot to ask....when are they removing the ADS and LDS? When its scheduled, not 1.6 at least. Thanks IWS :)
Silly Bitch Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.10.07 11:19:00 - [23] - Quote I've heard getting rid of ADS and LDS is just speculation. Can someone provide a link to the source of this info? Much appreciated
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3699	Posted - 2013.10.07 11:33:00 - [24] - Quote Silly * wrote: I've heard getting rid of ADS and LDS is just speculation. Can someone provide a link to the source of this info? Much appreciated You can see it in the past on the vehicle update sticked to the top of this section of the Forums. The ADS is not in the charts they gave us, and it has been confirmed that that is because it is being removed for the time being. Notice that I DID say "time being" and not "permanently".
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 261	Posted - 2013.10.08 06:24:00 - [25] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113407&p=2 logi bro states it here at the top of page 2 in this vehicle changes thread.
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 261	Posted - 2013.10.08 06:37:00 - [26] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Silly * wrote: I've heard getting rid of ADS and LDS is just speculation. Can someone provide a link to the source of this info? Much appreciated You can see it in the past on the vehicle update sticked to the top of this section of the Forums. The ADS is not in the charts they gave us, and it has been confirmed that that is because it is being removed for the time being. Notice that I DID say "time being" and not "permanently". Indeed this is only a temporary removal, however it would not be unlike CCP to remove something for longer than what was originally estimated. I would like to see them returned sooner rather than later. I also stated in my OP that I just need a break from dust and my frustration with dropships, especially with the only dropship that has good enough handling for flying being removed temporarily. If they would change the handling of the myron to that of a python i could still fly around and have fun. Jumped in some myrons today and was completely outmatched by AV, simply because the knock back effect would send my dropship into a slide that i couldnt pull it out of. A slide which i would normally be able to recover from in a python. even though it costs a hell of a lot less per ship, i have very diminished odds of bringing myrons back home with all the proto AV that exists these days. So i suppose I will just wait for team kong to reply to this thread and let us know how many builds they think it will take to fix them out of game and re-implement them. I hope they don't put it off until 1.9 or some other build, also in my absence I would like to know what happens to all of my investments, if they will be frozen or not, in case i get on to try the new myron changes. So no Sylwester Dziewiecki you may not have my stuff, for I am not leaving Just taking a breather, being a dropship pilot is painful!


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