DUST Search - Tanks, Will they even be worth it anymore !?

Banning Hammer wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

Banning Hammer wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

steadyhand amarr wrote:

If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned

were getting half our slots removed, our PG/CPU is getting reduced, the SP requirement will be more, the ISK cost probably will be the same, and we are still not getting adv or proto tanks.. tell me where we are getting something good at all.. and im not talking about hidden messages that are referenced somewhere, im talking hard facts on how were supostu be getting something good this time.

So CCP is going to make you choose between Power or Durability, big deal... just choose one of them ;

- Lots of kills but vulnerable to attack.
or
- Solid defense but not so many kills and a support role.

Stop thinking that you can have both.

stop thinking its right for you to use av grenades while being able to use an ar.

we will have 2 choices, become a bait car or more redline rails.
the only good thing about this is that they didn't add in the ******* ******** idea of separating the driver seat from the cannon seat.

I'm sure they will also rework the AV weapons when this changes come into effect, or at least i hope so. Just remove the AV grenades altogether, they where a stupid idea to start with.

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Harry Bawlss Black Phoenix Mercenaries 1	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:19:00 - [1] - Quote With the new updates that are supposed to happen with the vehicles. The question remains if we will be getting our SP back for the Logi and Attack vehicles they will be removing -.- Anddd, With the shield tank being nothing more than a person who just wasted SP and Isk. (I am a shield tanker) and the Armour getting in my mind a little buff (once again) is there a point in even going tanking because the AV is still going to blow us all up. Even with all the mods, they will not last long enough with the speed reduction making ALL tanks sitting ducks. An A-hole will run up with the Av grenades while your being a turtle and bam your gone. I will respectfully be asking for all my SP back so I can put them into something that IS going to make a difference on the field than. Vehicles are a dud now,... Screw tanking, screw dropships (Only was fun with attack) and screw LAV. CCP you claim you want to make vehicles more fun, but in my mind and from what I see, you are going to give people more frustration than anything and I had hope for this game but I am sorry. This was a mistake. If by chance anyone will still be tanking, what tank will you be using and why !?
Stevez Lau Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:21:00 - [2] - Quote I have spent no SP in veichles because I personally believe they are the no skill can't aim go to things. BUT I do feel bad for people now that these changes are coming. I hope you guys do get a respec but CCP have said that they are NOT doing any more respecs and they were quite firm with that.
Harry Bawlss Black Phoenix Mercenaries 1	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:21:00 - [3] - Quote I mean heck, the plasma cannon will now be able to ACTUALLY take a tank out after the tanker is on cooldown with 1shot now.
Harry Bawlss Black Phoenix Mercenaries 1	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:23:00 - [4] - Quote Stevez Lau wrote: I have spent no SP in veichles because I personally believe they are the no skill can't aim go to things. BUT I do feel bad for people now that these changes are coming. I hope you guys do get a respec but CCP have said that they are NOT doing any more respecs and they were quite firm with that. Yes I know and I must say, it takes skill with the attack dropship which I started using more and wasted soo much sp on. If I knew they were taking it away (which they never mentioned before) than why shouldn't we get all our SP back ? I mean it is only fair. If they were to not give sp back than many people may stop playing
PEW JACKSON s i n g u l a r i t y 66	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:03:00 - [5] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: Stevez Lau wrote: I have spent no SP in veichles because I personally believe they are the no skill can't aim go to things. BUT I do feel bad for people now that these changes are coming. I hope you guys do get a respec but CCP have said that they are NOT doing any more respecs and they were quite firm with that. Yes I know and I must say, it takes skill with the attack dropship which I started using more and wasted soo much sp on. If I knew they were taking it away (which they never mentioned before) than why shouldn't we get all our SP back ? I mean it is only fair. If they were to not give sp back than many people (WILL) stop playing fixed for you.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1346	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:11:00 - [6] - Quote Let's be honest, where they worth it after chrome?
Syeven Reed Inanimate Objects 44	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:19:00 - [7] - Quote Probably not if your just picking them up, but for a skilled player I would think so. Yes.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 209	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:33:00 - [8] - Quote I'll have to try it before I go all berserker against the new tank changes. I still think it will be a flop if AV isn't modded at the same time to reflect the new stats.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 383	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:51:00 - [9] - Quote I think the changes are taking place to bring forth adv and maybe proto tanks in the future I read a post before that said they did not have enough slots to bring forth adv and proto tanks that is why I believe the new slot layout is being implemented
Cosgar ParagonX 5609	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:04:00 - [10] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Let's be honest, where they worth it after chrome? They could actually fit stuff in Chrome.

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1346	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:06:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Let's be honest, where they worth it after chrome? They could actually fit stuff in Chrome. I know that's why I said after chrome :P
Cosgar ParagonX 5609	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:08:00 - [12] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cosgar wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Let's be honest, where they worth it after chrome? They could actually fit stuff in Chrome. I know that's why I said after chrome :P Misread. My falut.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1607	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:23:00 - [13] - Quote Stevez Lau wrote: I have spent no SP in veichles because I personally believe they are the no skill can't aim go to things. BUT I do feel bad for people now that these changes are coming. I hope you guys do get a respec but CCP have said that they are NOT doing any more respecs and they were quite firm with that. I find your claim condescending, im extremely good at other FPS games and im usually 1st in points in every match I play, here I chose to do vehicles because im bored of being a mindless stupid grunt with no intelligence, plus, being an infantry guy is boring and vehicles brought a change..
steadyhand amarr Amarr S.A.D 1462	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:46:00 - [14] - Quote If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1961	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:54:00 - [15] - Quote depends on how effective modules are one plausible situation is that (everyone knew DS needed big HP buff) DS kept fitting slots. Tank lost a couple. IF fitting modules are now 20% better --> DS are fine with current slots, tanks would be OP with previous slots. Then perhaps higher level tanks and dropships will gain more slots leaving the more 'interesting' fitting choices to exist beyond 'standard' vehicles. It's plausible. Of course history has me concerned .
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3656	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:03:00 - [16] - Quote Harry Bawlss wrote: I mean heck, the plasma cannon will now be able to ACTUALLY take a tank out after the tanker is on cooldown with 1shot now. Even an unfitted tank can survive one plasma cannon shot, so no.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1610	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:05:00 - [17] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned were getting half our slots removed, our PG/CPU is getting reduced, the SP requirement will be more, the ISK cost probably will be the same, and we are still not getting adv or proto tanks.. tell me where we are getting something good at all.. and im not talking about hidden messages that are referenced somewhere, im talking hard facts on how were supostu be getting something good this time.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1563	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:13:00 - [18] - Quote Void Echo wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned were getting half our slots removed, our PG/CPU is getting reduced, the SP requirement will be more, the ISK cost probably will be the same, and we are still not getting adv or proto tanks.. tell me where we are getting something good at all.. and im not talking about hidden messages that are referenced somewhere, im talking hard facts on how were supostu be getting something good this time. So CCP is going to make you choose between Power or Durability, big deal... just choose one of them ; - Lots of kills but vulnerable to attack. or - Solid defense but not so many kills and a support role. Stop thinking that you can have both.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1610	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:17:00 - [19] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Void Echo wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned were getting half our slots removed, our PG/CPU is getting reduced, the SP requirement will be more, the ISK cost probably will be the same, and we are still not getting adv or proto tanks.. tell me where we are getting something good at all.. and im not talking about hidden messages that are referenced somewhere, im talking hard facts on how were supostu be getting something good this time. So CCP is going to make you choose between Power or Durability, big deal... just choose one of them ; - Lots of kills but vulnerable to attack. or - Solid defense but not so many kills and a support role. Stop thinking that you can have both. stop thinking its right for you to use av grenades while being able to use an ar. we will have 2 choices, become a bait car or more redline rails. the only good thing about this is that they didn't add in the ***** ****** idea of separating the driver seat from the cannon seat.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1563	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:24:00 - [20] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Void Echo wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned were getting half our slots removed, our PG/CPU is getting reduced, the SP requirement will be more, the ISK cost probably will be the same, and we are still not getting adv or proto tanks.. tell me where we are getting something good at all.. and im not talking about hidden messages that are referenced somewhere, im talking hard facts on how were supostu be getting something good this time. So CCP is going to make you choose between Power or Durability, big deal... just choose one of them ; - Lots of kills but vulnerable to attack. or - Solid defense but not so many kills and a support role. Stop thinking that you can have both. stop thinking its right for you to use av grenades while being able to use an ar. we will have 2 choices, become a bait car or more redline rails. the only good thing about this is that they didn't add in the ***** ****** idea of separating the driver seat from the cannon seat. I'm sure they will also rework the AV weapons when this changes come into effect, or at least i hope so. Just remove the AV grenades altogether, they where a stupid idea to start with.

pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1108	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:24:00 - [21] - Quote Stevez Lau wrote: I have spent no SP in veichles because I personally believe they are the no skill can't aim go to things. BUT I do feel bad for people now that these changes are coming. I hope you guys do get a respec but CCP have said that they are NOT doing any more respecs and they were quite firm with that. You say no skill bawjaws. Try piloting a tank ....but you probably wont . By the sound of your post you really should go back to cod.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1610	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:30:00 - [22] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Void Echo wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Void Echo wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned were getting half our slots removed, our PG/CPU is getting reduced, the SP requirement will be more, the ISK cost probably will be the same, and we are still not getting adv or proto tanks.. tell me where we are getting something good at all.. and im not talking about hidden messages that are referenced somewhere, im talking hard facts on how were supostu be getting something good this time. So CCP is going to make you choose between Power or Durability, big deal... just choose one of them ; - Lots of kills but vulnerable to attack. or - Solid defense but not so many kills and a support role. Stop thinking that you can have both. stop thinking its right for you to use av grenades while being able to use an ar. we will have 2 choices, become a bait car or more redline rails. the only good thing about this is that they didn't add in the ***** ****** idea of separating the driver seat from the cannon seat. I'm sure they will also rework the AV weapons when this changes come into effect, or at least i hope so. Just remove the AV grenades altogether, they where a stupid idea to start with. indeed..
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 782	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:55:00 - [23] - Quote Depends entirely if CCP/Shanghai refunds SP for all vehicles and turret Skills. If not then I might try one or two of them before I quit DUST altogether. If they do refund then I will switch from vehicles and never look back.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2554	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:59:00 - [24] - Quote Stevez Lau wrote: I have spent no SP in veichles because I personally believe they are the no skill can't aim go to things. BUT I do feel bad for people now that these changes are coming. I hope you guys do get a respec but CCP have said that they are NOT doing any more respecs and they were quite firm with that. LOL ever heard of.... well Every Minmatar weapon ever? Swarm Launchers or AV grenades? I'm confused since the only weapons that require skill to aim are the Amarrian ones.
Dizzy Rocket Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.10.03 12:04:00 - [25] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: If possible can I see the math behind this clam that tanks are going to get owned I present to you sir, the math behind this clam.
Beld Errmon Evocatius 950	Posted - 2013.10.03 12:14:00 - [26] - Quote People that use vehicles do so because they can't aim.... yet which profession has Aim Assist.
LudiKure ninda Black Phoenix Mercenaries 35	Posted - 2013.10.03 12:27:00 - [27] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: People that use vehicles do so because they can't aim.... yet which profession has Aim Assist. I admit that I couldnt aim with AR and thats why I skilled into vehicles,..but now when we have aimbot,and I got duvolle wohoooo


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