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Tebu Gan CrimeWave Syndicate 123	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:00:00 - [1] - Quote So with they changes to turrets and basically most of our skill tree, I wonder if they are going to let us redistribute our skill points in vehicles. Haven't throughly looked the numbers over, but I see the turrets tree is changing to match infantry's tree. Curious hmm
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6634	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:02:00 - [2] - Quote Because Assault dropships, Logistics dropships, Scout LAVs, and Logistics LAVs weren't effected at all.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1333	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:04:00 - [3] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Because Assault dropships, Logistics dropships, Scout LAVs, and Logistics LAVs weren't effected at all. You missed Enforcer HAVs...
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 598	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:04:00 - [4] - Quote how about those that have SP in stuff that is bugged for months, nerfed to oblivion and not balanced properly (hello scouts) ? either everyone gets one or no one. simply as that.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6634	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:05:00 - [5] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Because Assault dropships, Logistics dropships, Scout LAVs, and Logistics LAVs weren't effected at all. You missed Enforcer HAVs... Oops. Do people actually use those? I'm not a tanker, and as someone who owns an Ishukone forge gun, I don't see tanks long enough to actually tell what they are.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1657	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:05:00 - [6] - Quote If the skills literally aren't the same skills anymore, then they'll have no choice but to reimburse those that have changed. I imagine many vehicle users will be unhappy with the changes and ask for complete respecs. Those vehicle users can suck gorilla dong.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 317	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:05:00 - [7] - Quote how do you define a tanker? because I have a maddy and a proto scout am I a tanker or a scout?
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1333	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:06:00 - [8] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: If the skills literally aren't the same skills anymore, then they'll have no choice but to reimburse those that have changed. I imagine many vehicle users will be unhappy with the changes and ask for complete respecs. Those vehicle users can suck gorilla dong. The Vehicles Dusty listed... they're being removed
Tebu Gan CrimeWave Syndicate 123	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:10:00 - [9] - Quote Put respec in the title and everyone comes out of the woodwork! lol I was thinking just the skills affected, like I said I havent looked thoroughly thu the changes yet, just noticed we are getting some big changes to the tree, namely the Turrets. Lot of extra abilities I would have to grind for otherwise.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1134	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:18:00 - [10] - Quote It looks like all turret skills will come back, along with the SP for vehicle command. Module skills are anyones guess. All told I should be getting a pretty nice refund, but they should figure out a way to refund all vehicle skills when this drops. Then I recommend that no one respecs into vehicles, so that all those AV guys will have wasted SP on their characters.

Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 148	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:22:00 - [11] - Quote I bet a significant amount of ISKies they refund the Vehicle Command, Vehicle Upgrade and Turret portions of the skill tree.
Hexen Trickster Industrial removal service 83	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:26:00 - [12] - Quote "So Hexen what are you specifically skilled into" Caldari enfocers with proto missile turrets " is that all?" I just dumped sp into a epic Logi LAV "they are getting removed" Well... crap.. i guess i can use my gunlogi and.. my regular lav that cant rep dropsuits. I want a respec.. but only so i can specifically drop every single point into blackops tanks.. NINJA TANKS FOREVER
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 318	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:33:00 - [13] - Quote Hexen Trickster wrote: "So Hexen what are you specifically skilled into" Caldari enfocers with proto missile turrets " is that all?" I just dumped sp into a epic Logi LAV "they are getting removed" Well... crap.. i guess i can use my gunlogi and.. my regular lav that cant rep dropsuits. I want a respec.. but only so i can specifically drop every single point into blackops tanks.. NINJA TANKS FOREVER sneaky tank is... oh wait there it is.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1333	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:54:00 - [14] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Hexen Trickster wrote: "So Hexen what are you specifically skilled into" Caldari enfocers with proto missile turrets " is that all?" I just dumped sp into a epic Logi LAV "they are getting removed" Well... crap.. i guess i can use my gunlogi and.. my regular lav that cant rep dropsuits. I want a respec.. but only so i can specifically drop every single point into blackops tanks.. NINJA TANKS FOREVER sneaky tank is... oh wait there it is. When was the last time you saw a Black Ops Tank?... Exactly...
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4657	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:00:00 - [15] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: how do you define a tanker? because I have a maddy and a proto scout am I a tanker or a scout? I'm a heavy that drives a shield tank
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 380	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:01:00 - [16] - Quote the community will love that
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 16	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:02:00 - [17] - Quote Getting a respec and getting SP reimbursed for a skill that CCP removed are two different things. The precedent in Eve is strict. Consider the Eve skill 'Ethnic Relations'. This skill used to allow your corp to be made up of races other than your characters by 20% per level. At level V, your entire corp could be a race other than your own. That skill was removed, and changed to 'Diplomatic Relations' and reduces the NPC levied cost of hiring allies by 5% per level. Those skills are totally different, but CCP didn't see fit to reimburse those skill points. If the question is "Will CCP refund skill points for [whatever] skill they changed?" The answer is probably no. So brace yourself for that eventuality.
Hexen Trickster Industrial removal service 87	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:03:00 - [18] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Hexen Trickster wrote: "So Hexen what are you specifically skilled into" Caldari enfocers with proto missile turrets " is that all?" I just dumped sp into a epic Logi LAV "they are getting removed" Well... crap.. i guess i can use my gunlogi and.. my regular lav that cant rep dropsuits. I want a respec.. but only so i can specifically drop every single point into blackops tanks.. NINJA TANKS FOREVER sneaky tank is... oh wait there it is. When was the last time you saw a Black Ops Tank?... Exactly... back before the buff CCP buffed them so well they became to good, and now nobody at CCP cant find them any more. Just picture it. a Gunlogii jet black. with 2 red paint marks on both sides and the logo. Ishukkone (if thats how its spelt damn names)
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2510	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:11:00 - [19] - Quote I definitely believe this is grounds to reimburse all skill points invested into vehicle skills, these are massive changes. I would even argue that it is grounds to reimburse skill points invested into infantry, since the new role of vehicles could vastly change how you would skill into infantry to deal with them or whether you would skill into infantry at all. I do believe CCP said something last time when we got the optional respec that they are not in favor of partial respecs, since usually messing with one skill changes how you approach all other skills.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6645	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:29:00 - [20] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I definitely believe this is grounds to reimburse all skill points invested into vehicle skills, these are massive changes. I would even argue that it is grounds to reimburse skill points invested into infantry, since the new role of vehicles could vastly change how you would skill into infantry to deal with them or whether you would skill into infantry at all. I do believe CCP said something last time when we got the optional respec that they are not in favor of partial respecs, since usually messing with one skill changes how you approach all other skills. The two skills that raise module duration and lower cooldown by 25% are a manditory skill at 1.1 mil for the two, skills no vehicle user would have not raised to 5 immediately



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