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Kierkegaard Soren
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:30:00 -
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So I made my drop ship dedicated alt today. I found and devoured judge Rhadamanthus' DS flight guide and in it he shows how to practice away from the battle, in the flight only zone. He warned me about the losses, about how my first enemy would not be a forge gun, but a mountain side. But bejesus, I was not prepared for the rail guns and weird inertia that your militia DS likes to give you. I crashed and burned under the pressure of rail fire and soggy handling. A lot.
In short, I just blew 2mil isk on skill books and basic fits for about 2 minutes worth of flight practice,whereby I learned how hard the ground is and not a lot else. Really frustrating. How are new players, not used the driving philosophy of the EvE universe (it's hard work until you make it easy so HTFU, specifically) supposed to be encouraged by this experience? DS's are hard to learn and expensive to lose, even the militia ones, and newberries will be put off very quickly if they're isn't a viable way to learn with no risk to your isk flow.
So, I'm proposing...no I'm *pleading* for a VR flight simulator that any player can access, where a vehicle of their choice can be spawned onto a pre-made map and allow them to fly(crash) happy until they have the hang of zipping around the battlefield in their new toy. Add it into the New Player experience and have it permanently installed into your private quarters (perhaps the unit itself could resemble a PS3 hmm?).
The current alternate is to grind in a militia suit for low isk (because after two games you're out of the academy and into proto pubs ville yaaaaaay) for the privilege of running to the edge of a skirmish map, dropping a vehicle whilst praying that a rail gun won't trash it and then spending the rest of the match not being a team player. It's a lose-lose situation for everyone.
If you'll excuse me, I need to jump into an ambush match so I can die for cash. Thanks. |
FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
83
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:35:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:So I made my drop ship dedicated alt today. I found and devoured judge Rhadamanthus' DS flight guide and in it he shows how to practice away from the battle, in the flight only zone. He warned me about the losses, about how my first enemy would not be a forge gun, but a mountain side. But bejesus, I was not prepared for the rail guns and weird inertia that your militia DS likes to give you. I crashed and burned under the pressure of rail fire and soggy handling. A lot.
In short, I just blew 2mil isk on skill books and basic fits for about 2 minutes worth of flight practice,whereby I learned how hard the ground is and not a lot else. Really frustrating. How are new players, not used the driving philosophy of the EvE universe (it's hard work until you make it easy so HTFU, specifically) supposed to be encouraged by this experience? DS's are hard to learn and expensive to lose, even the militia ones, and newberries will be put off very quickly if they're isn't a viable way to learn with no risk to your isk flow.
So, I'm proposing...no I'm *pleading* for a VR flight simulator that any player can access, where a vehicle of their choice can be spawned onto a pre-made map and allow them to fly(crash) happy until they have the hang of zipping around the battlefield in their new toy. Add it into the New Player experience and have it permanently installed into your private quarters (perhaps the unit itself could resemble a PS3 hmm?).
The current alternate is to grind in a militia suit for low isk (because after two games you're out of the academy and into proto pubs ville yaaaaaay) for the privilege of running to the edge of a skirmish map, dropping a vehicle whilst praying that a rail gun won't trash it and then spending the rest of the match not being a team player. It's a lose-lose situation for everyone.
If you'll excuse me, I need to jump into an ambush match so I can die for cash. Thanks.
For training, you may find this thread useful info: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=93506&find=unread |
Kierkegaard Soren
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:39:00 -
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Yes, anything that allows a player to get to grips with the basics of the game without having to worry about the loss, cost or negative impact your actions might have on team mates would be hugely beneficial to new player retention I feel, especially for those that want to try a career path that's a little more exotic than an AR assault trooper. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
468
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:01:00 -
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Im all for a training area
I would like to mention to Kierk there is a chat called "Condor Squad" (without quotes) that you can join. You can find Judge, Bojo and myself in there among other vetern dropship pilots who can take you out on the field and train you in person (only if you ask nicelly) and some of us if you're really polite and open to direction might even call in one of our own logi or ADS's for you to practice on.
Good flying! |
Kierkegaard Soren
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:08:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Im all for a training area
I would like to mention to Kierk there is a chat called "Condor Squad" (without quotes) that you can join. You can find Judge, Bojo and myself in there among other vetern dropship pilots who can take you out on the field and train you in person (only if you ask nicelly) and some of us if you're really polite and open to direction might even call in one of our own logi or ADS's for you to practice on.
Good flying!
That'd be fantastic, thank you. I'll join the channel when I. Next log in, probably tomorrow. The YouTube guides were excellent for giving you the theory, but as Judge himself pointed out, putting them into practice successfully is going to take a lot of practice for all but he most experienced pilots. An player who wants to fly a DS without dealing with strong feelings of rage quit needs somewhere they can learn without it hurting them in their pocket or their pride. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1048
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:43:00 -
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Just do it already.
Let us into a blank white room for Vehicle flight testing, with sets of targets with HP like 100, 200, 400, 600, 800, 1000 and so on amounts of health, and vehicles with health like 2000 and 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, and 7000.
Ta-Da.
I'd be happy. |
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