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D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1132	Posted - 2013.09.30 03:51:00 - [1] - Quote Dropships are pathetically weak, but increasing their ehp etc could make people QQ too hard. I recommend reducing their price to that of an LAV. so, a milita DS will equal that of a milita LAV. in all honesty these dropships are like LAVs. the medium dropships still have yet to come. those should have the cost of the current dropships. the medium LAVs (or MAV) are on their way too. therefore DS and LAV should be weak, but also more affordable. similar idea here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110268&find=unread
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6516	Posted - 2013.09.30 03:54:00 - [2] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: the medium dropships still have yet to come If only this were true
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1868	Posted - 2013.09.30 04:02:00 - [3] - Quote How about raise HP and raise cost
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1353	Posted - 2013.09.30 05:12:00 - [4] - Quote Pen Island
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 384	Posted - 2013.09.30 06:45:00 - [5] - Quote They're only 68k now; that's quite affordable. Then again, I expect to lose five dropships per match so perhaps I'm not representative.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 186	Posted - 2013.09.30 07:32:00 - [6] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: They're only 68k now; that's quite affordable. Then again, I expect to lose five dropships per match so perhaps I'm not representative. Price of militia isn't the issue. It's the assault and logi ships that cost WAY too much. My fit Python with advanced missiles costs 700k and it still gets 2-3 hit by an advanced forge.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1285	Posted - 2013.09.30 07:51:00 - [7] - Quote I like how vehicles are an investment and disagree that their cost should be reduced... but it is true that theyre not worth that cost atm
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1868	Posted - 2013.09.30 08:09:00 - [8] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: SponkSponkSponk wrote: They're only 68k now; that's quite affordable. Then again, I expect to lose five dropships per match so perhaps I'm not representative. Price of militia isn't the issue. It's the assault and logi ships that cost WAY too much. My fit Python with advanced missiles costs 700k and it still gets 2-3 hit by an advanced forge. You could be 3 shot by a militia forge just as well but assault forges are broken as hell atm
Judge Rhadamanthus Seraphim Auxiliaries 496	Posted - 2013.09.30 08:13:00 - [9] - Quote I would prefer that a vehicle is seen as a powerful asset rather than a cheap convenience. Dropships should take skill to use and be devastating in the right hands. The balance to this power would be cost and the amount of SP to be able to use one. Being devastating does not mean being indestructible however. When a dropship appears overhead the friendlies should be emboldened by the support and the enemies threatened by it's presence. This is why I like the direction the DEVs have stated they are going; Burst defence and Burst damage. Strategic asset use rather than a lingering and mildly annoying presence makes the addition of vehicles more tactically interesting. The ground units can enjoy a good gunfight, but beware, sometimes a powerful assets will appear and you better be able to scare it off or destroy it. I think we should keep the cost. even increase it to balance the average 'life' of a vehicle as and when changes are introduced
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1132	Posted - 2013.09.30 16:53:00 - [10] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: They're only 68k now; that's quite affordable. Then again, I expect to lose five dropships per match so perhaps I'm not representative. 68,000 Isk is way too much for something that will get you zero kills and very few points. with 68,000 isk I can get an adv assault suits with a GEK, adv SMG, and M1 locus grenades and get 10-15 kills in 1-3 lives. (the whole thing will cost around 27k isk or 35k isk. all in all. what you get for using the dropship doesn't justify the cost. LAVs get you from point A to point B. and have a turret that is mostly useless... DS basically do the same thing from mlt to proto. their turrets are admittedly more powerful, but they blow up quick, and of course if you get hit and bump into a wall your ship will just explode mid air.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1132	Posted - 2013.09.30 16:55:00 - [11] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I would prefer that a vehicle is seen as a powerful asset rather than a cheap convenience. Dropships should take skill to use and be devastating in the right hands. The balance to this power would be cost and the amount of SP to be able to use one. Being devastating does not mean being indestructible however. When a dropship appears overhead the friendlies should be emboldened by the support and the enemies threatened by it's presence. This is why I like the direction the DEVs have stated they are going; Burst defence and Burst damage. Strategic asset use rather than a lingering and mildly annoying presence makes the addition of vehicles more tactically interesting. The ground units can enjoy a good gunfight, but beware, sometimes a powerful assets will appear and you better be able to scare it off or destroy it. I think we should keep the cost. even increase it to balance the average 'life' of a vehicle as and when changes are introduced if it were balanced to represent the average life of vehicles now they'd cost about the same as a standard dropsuit. because they drop just as fast.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 189	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:16:00 - [12] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I would prefer that a vehicle is seen as a powerful asset rather than a cheap convenience. Dropships should take skill to use and be devastating in the right hands. The balance to this power would be cost and the amount of SP to be able to use one. Being devastating does not mean being indestructible however. When a dropship appears overhead the friendlies should be emboldened by the support and the enemies threatened by it's presence. This is why I like the direction the DEVs have stated they are going; Burst defence and Burst damage. Strategic asset use rather than a lingering and mildly annoying presence makes the addition of vehicles more tactically interesting. The ground units can enjoy a good gunfight, but beware, sometimes a powerful assets will appear and you better be able to scare it off or destroy it. I think we should keep the cost. even increase it to balance the average 'life' of a vehicle as and when changes are introduced I think when/if we get a market where EVE players produce items for us, prices will sort themselves out. If no one is buying dropships because they are thought to be underpowered then prices drop. Same thing if people are buying dropships all the time. Also, Judge Rhadamanthus. You're the reason why I first started flying assault dropships, your videos helped a lot!
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1132	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:19:00 - [13] - Quote oh wow didn't realize that was judge. Very good videos on DSing. Helped me out alot, although the strafing and hovering part are still pretty rough for me. lolz
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 925	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:19:00 - [14] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Dropships are pathetically weak, but increasing their ehp etc could make people QQ too hard. I recommend reducing their price to that of an LAV. so, a milita DS will equal that of a milita LAV. in all honesty these dropships are like LAVs. the medium dropships still have yet to come. those should have the cost of the current dropships. the medium LAVs (or MAV) are on their way too. therefore DS and LAV should be weak, but also more affordable. similar idea here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110268&find=unread Dropships are already a medium air vehicle.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9124	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:28:00 - [15] - Quote I have seen the near future and ... I don't know what to say about ALL of it, I am struggling to process a small mountain of information. I am sure the real experts of the field can theorycraft much better than I can and imagine or measure the impact far better.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1132	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:29:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Dropships are pathetically weak, but increasing their ehp etc could make people QQ too hard. I recommend reducing their price to that of an LAV. so, a milita DS will equal that of a milita LAV. in all honesty these dropships are like LAVs. the medium dropships still have yet to come. those should have the cost of the current dropships. the medium LAVs (or MAV) are on their way too. therefore DS and LAV should be weak, but also more affordable. similar idea here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110268&find=unread Dropships are already a medium air vehicle. anime gasp
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1132	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:30:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have seen the near future and ... I don't know what to say about ALL of it, I am struggling to process a small mountain of information. I am sure the real experts of the field can theorycraft much better than I can and imagine or measure the impact far better. hmmm... thats interesting.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6523	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:34:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have seen the near future and ... I don't know what to say about ALL of it, I am struggling to process a small mountain of information. I am sure the real experts of the field can theorycraft much better than I can and imagine or measure the impact far better. That is a horrible tease that tells us nothing yet implies there is something to be told. CURSE YOU NDA!!!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9124	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:36:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I have seen the near future and ... I don't know what to say about ALL of it, I am struggling to process a small mountain of information. I am sure the real experts of the field can theorycraft much better than I can and imagine or measure the impact far better. That is a horrible tease that tells us nothing yet implies there is something to be told. CURSE YOU NDA!!! Oh I don't think you will have to wait long to see what I have seen.
Judge Rhadamanthus Seraphim Auxiliaries 499	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:38:00 - [20] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Also, Judge Rhadamanthus. You're the reason why I first started flying assault dropships, your videos helped a lot! Thanks man. Appreciate the praise. Glad you join the pilot ranks.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 379	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:40:00 - [21] - Quote did any of u know that the deadliest dropship is the one every one ignores? the armor repper can actually save a dropship from blowing up allowing it to survive a normally ohk fg shot... but the price reduction is greatly needed.. of course id rather see a free default derpship..
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6523	Posted - 2013.09.30 18:57:00 - [22] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: did any of u know that the deadliest dropship is the one every one ignores? the armor repper can actually save a dropship from blowing up allowing it to survive a normally ohk fg shot... <3 my Prometheus Armor reps are still bugged though, and heal waaaay more than they should.
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 20	Posted - 2013.10.01 19:58:00 - [23] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Dropships are pathetically weak, but increasing their ehp etc could make people QQ too hard. I recommend reducing their price to that of an LAV. so, a milita DS will equal that of a milita LAV. in all honesty these dropships are like LAVs. the medium dropships still have yet to come. those should have the cost of the current dropships. the medium LAVs (or MAV) are on their way too. therefore DS and LAV should be weak, but also more affordable. similar idea here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110268&find=unread NO NO NO Your not doing it right! The ONLY thing all dropships need is more slots! If you guys are losing so many ships, your not fitting them properly. Ships have cores skills too. SPEED is more important then armor! I run ZERO armor plates. They will slow you down FAST. If you have speed, you can ride fast/low to the ground and dodge behind buildings. My milita can take 2 forge hits or 3 swarmies. Armor repair a MUST. If they added MORE slots, we could use pg/cpu extenders. NEVER sit still in a ship. Your asking for trouble.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1152	Posted - 2013.10.04 16:47:00 - [24] - Quote so how bout that price reduction?

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