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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:41:00 -
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After reading a few posts on here I can see that activity on the PC front is falling. Most of that which does take place is probably mostly the larger Corps training more than anything else.
Why?
Cause these guys ( who got the districts on merit) have made a shed load of ISK. So they can afford to run proto all the time now. Yes Ive seen the bragging of wallet size.
So if a smaller Corp tries to attack it costs them a significant amount of thier wallet to do so. If by chance and luck and a bit of skill they take a district the previous owners can easily afford to continuously attack until they retake. Attrition works.
Thus the cycle continues over and over.
We smaller corps can see this and know that it just isnt worth it to try.
Now I know we can form alliances and try that way but as both 'WARS' have shown the rich shall over come. They are good players with the ISk to back it all up.
With more districts open it will be harder for them to hold as much.
Smaller corps can then jump in and grab some and start getting a foot hold in the PC world. Start making some serious ISk and expand. Thus giving more competition to these already established Alliances.
So CCP open up Eve to us. Let us grow and get a little closer to where you see us in the future.
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General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
2747
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:44:00 -
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This post is now General John Ripper approved. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8967
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:45:00 -
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Eon is leaving PC so take thier turf. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
314
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:53:00 -
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I own no districts and I wipe my proto ass with ISK.
But on a serious note, you can easily save up enough ISK to run proto in a PC match.
Just get into a mil BPO suit, grind and save your ISK in pub matches. when each death costs you 3k ISK and you get a payout of around 200k+ you will have the ISK to buy protosuits for PC. (I don't fee like that is a real issue) the issue you will be out skilled by people with more experience.
All that being said i do agree with your statement of "With more districts open it will be harder for them to hold as much." and think more PC districts should be opened. |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
2747
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Eon is leaving PC so take thier turf. confirmed |
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
167
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:03:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I own no districts and I wipe my proto ass with ISK.
But on a serious note, you can easily save up enough ISK to run proto in a PC match.
Just get into a mil BPO suit, grind and save your ISK in pub matches. when each death costs you 3k ISK and you get a payout of around 200k+ you will have the ISK to buy protosuits for PC. (I don't fee like that is a real issue) the issue you will be out skilled by people with more experience.
All that being said i do agree with your statement of "With more districts open it will be harder for them to hold as much." and think more PC districts should be opened.
I know that saving for proto suits is a common thing on Dust I do it every now and then.
What Im talking about are guys that can afford to run proto not only in PC but in pub and FW matches as well due to the isk income from districts.
It makes it difficult ( not impossible) for smaller corps. Which means it makes it less worth trying for districts when we stand to loose so much with very little chance of reward because the current holders are so good from the practice they get.
I've also noticed that switching from a BPO to a proto has a completely different feel and they react in different ways too. So some adjustment time is needed. Unless you can afford to run proto all the time. Glad they can afford to since they worked for it but the rest of us cant afford it.
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low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
495
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:07:00 -
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why aren't you asking for another planet type?
rally the troops. decide which planet type you want to fight on next, and pressure ccp to get to work on a specific type of planet. |
Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
107
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:14:00 -
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Getting isk IS NOT A PROBLEM.
Have 200 miljon and it's grows steady and I and my 1 man corp don't own a district and I will never have the chanse to do a blodey PC so I just enyoj the game.
Ps just passed 4 month in the game.... Yeah just 4 moths.
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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
167
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:18:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Getting isk IS NOT A PROBLEM.
Have 200 miljon and it's grows steady and I and my 1 man corp don't own a district and I will never have the chanse to do a blodey PC so I just enyoj the game.
Ps just passed 4 month in the game.... Yeah just 4 moths.
Some of us do want to do PC and expand our Corp in the New Eden universe.
And since a clone pack is what a 150mil and it tkaes a few attacks to gain a district.
Well there ya go.
Glad you enjoy playing your way though. |
Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
107
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:24:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Getting isk IS NOT A PROBLEM.
Have 200 miljon and it's grows steady and I and my 1 man corp don't own a district and I will never have the chanse to do a blodey PC so I just enyoj the game.
Ps just passed 4 month in the game.... Yeah just 4 moths.
Some of us do want to do PC and expand our Corp in the New Eden universe. And since a clone pack is what a 150mil and it tkaes a few attacks to gain a district. Well there ya go. Glad you enjoy playing your way though.
That's my point if I can make that kind of money a cuple of dedicated players like yourself should not have a problem getting the isk 2 do PC |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1995
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Eon is leaving PC so take thier turf. Yes, now is the time to turn Molden Heath in to a giant playpen for the other corps.
It will be interesting to see who becomes lord of the flies. |
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
167
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:27:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Eon is leaving PC so take thier turf. Yes, now is the time to turn Molden Heath in to a giant playpen for the other corps. It will be interesting to see who becomes lord of the flies.
So every Corp in Eon is going to walk away from thier district? |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1995
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:29:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Eon is leaving PC so take thier turf. Yes, now is the time to turn Molden Heath in to a giant playpen for the other corps. It will be interesting to see who becomes lord of the flies. So every Corp in Eon is going to walk away from thier district? No, the ones that have sold off their land have already done so. Who you see now is who's staying....for now anyway. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1626
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:34:00 -
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That's no real point to us continuing to play PC anymore. We "beat" the people we set out to beat, most of us hate the current end game, and we're already stupid rich. There isn't anything to be gained. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8967
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:46:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:That's no real point to us continuing to play PC anymore. We "beat" the people we set out to beat, most of us hate the current end game, and we're already stupid rich. There isn't anything to be gained.
End game? |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1115
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Posted - 2013.09.27 06:44:00 -
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More districts is the last thing PC needs. It would just mean more districts to farm ISK on.
Only 20-50 are usually under attack each day, and some of these fights are probably just for fun as well (ie they're not trying to flip districts), so there's practically no fighting on the 245 districts.
PC would be better off if it got reduced to about 50 districts coupled with the removal of passive ISK. The idea of PC is to provide less districts than people want, so that they want to fight over them, and not provide enough districts for everyone, so that no one is fighting.
That or simply turning off PC because it's crap and can't be expanded anyway, and then shift the focus to FW and improve that. |
broonfondle majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
267
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:02:00 -
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I don't see the point in PC. The larger corps have the monopoly. They can sell districts just to get another corp to attack it back and the process repeats. Even if you get a district by open conflict its too difficult to keep it as smaller corps can't defend 24/7. Hell our corp only wants to get involved cus we're bat-**** crazy and want to do it in the most ludicrous way possible like.. I dunno... solely using commando falcon punches or something. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1407
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:32:00 -
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Pc as a design concept is not working adding more stuff will just mean bigger corps have more stuff to take over.
Novel idea is to shift owning the land to EvE players who then contract it out to mercs and eve players earn what ever it is eve players care about.
Contracts could be setup as public. First corp that has a team ready or private we like how you guys work welcome to our preferred partners list |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1626
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:That's no real point to us continuing to play PC anymore. We "beat" the people we set out to beat, most of us hate the current end game, and we're already stupid rich. There isn't anything to be gained. End game?
End game always has to be the greatest challenge the game has to offer. That would be PC.
Problem is that the challenges come more from the faults of the games engine and its numerous exploits.
So we sit around and accumulate isk, and for what? I honestly don't know.
Now the eventual end game may be much better, but uhhh.... yea, 2015 and all that. Current end game sucks. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
362
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:54:00 -
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End game should be taking in new people, spreading the word of the game, contributing to the betterment of the game itself. Everything else is petty in the end. |
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