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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:33:00 -
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going 20+/0 kdr and getting less then 200k isk.
getting squat for loot from matches.
going 3 months without seeing an officer weapon of choice.
the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with.
we make isk for the sole reason of making isk...that's it....their is nothing to even spend it on anymore, no market to even buy said officer gear on. No industry to invest in, or construction process to do.
I'd love to drop my isk into constructing high end suits, or buy officer gear, but you give us nothing to work with. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
314
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:41:00 -
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Yeah i agree OP it's pissing me off how good i am at this game.
Other problems i have: 400mil + ISK in my wallet and nothing to spend it on. My 21 million SP has not been enough to get me into a second protosuit Amarr logi.
Fix these problems CCP, It's fuking difficult to be me, these poor noobs have no idea the daily struggles i face. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:44:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Yeah i agree OP it's pissing me off how good i am at this game.
Other problems i have: 400mil + ISK in my wallet and nothing to spend it on. My 21 million SP has not been enough to get me into a second protosuit Amarr logi.
Fix these problems CCP, It's fuking difficult to be me, these poor noobs have no idea the daily struggles i face.
i know right ;)
i'm at 23.5 and won't hit my second proto suit till 24.7 |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
411
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:51:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with. In my case it was the drop of SP rewards. Nothing demotivates me faster than having a bad game and a crappy SP payout. At least during the old Bonus SP weeks it felt like the skill development was getting somewhere.
Right now its just a competitive PvP rat-race grind. The only positive thing now is if there are interesting people on coms to BS with. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:52:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:calisk galern wrote:the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with. In my case it was the drop of SP rewards. Nothing demotivates me faster than having a bad game and a crappy SP payout. At least during the old Bonus SP weeks it felt like the skill development was getting somewhere. Right now its just a competitive PvP rat-race grind. The only positive thing now is if there are interesting people on coms to BS with.
ya not sure why they reduced the SP.....I guess they thought people were capping out too fast...which is a joke if they believed that.
I capped out on fridays back in the day, but even back then I knew people that had never once capped out, for those people I feel bad, and yes I took a hit to my motivation from the SP reduction as well. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1351
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:54:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:going 20+/0 kdr and getting less then 200k isk.
getting squat for loot from matches.
going 3 months without seeing an officer weapon of choice.
the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with.
we make isk for the sole reason of making isk...that's it....their is nothing to even spend it on anymore, no market to even buy said officer gear on. No industry to invest in, or construction process to do.
I'd love to drop my isk into constructing high end suits, or buy officer gear, but you give us nothing to work with.
Do more than just killing.
I Start a match:
Put Uplinks (4) Put up Prox mines Take CRU's TAke 1 or 2 objectives THEN i kill soething if my scout suit does not gets evaporated. Spawn as logi Amarr, REVIVE... Drop Nanos Die again Amarr Assault and start killing like crazy.
I avarage 300k - 450k per match. ISK payout is fine.If you do more, you get more. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:calisk galern wrote:going 20+/0 kdr and getting less then 200k isk.
getting squat for loot from matches.
going 3 months without seeing an officer weapon of choice.
the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with.
we make isk for the sole reason of making isk...that's it....their is nothing to even spend it on anymore, no market to even buy said officer gear on. No industry to invest in, or construction process to do.
I'd love to drop my isk into constructing high end suits, or buy officer gear, but you give us nothing to work with. Do more than just killing. I Start a match: Put Uplinks (4) Put up Prox mines Take CRU's TAke 1 or 2 objectives THEN i kill soething if my scout suit does not gets evaporated. Spawn as logi Amarr, REVIVE... Drop Nanos Die again Amarr Assault and start killing like crazy.I avarage 300k - 450k per match. ISK payout is fine.I f you do more, you get more.
actually the logis ruin the curve for everyone else, since payouts are based on ratios of war points earned when a logi gains 2k wp it kills the isk payouts for everyone else, even other logi's who's uplinks weren't being spawned on.
but yes killing people in an fps has sort of taken a back seat lol.
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this is also why i'm speccing into logi's lol |
SgtDoughnut
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:04:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:going 20+/0 kdr and getting less then 200k isk.
getting squat for loot from matches.
going 3 months without seeing an officer weapon of choice.
the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with.
we make isk for the sole reason of making isk...that's it....their is nothing to even spend it on anymore, no market to even buy said officer gear on. No industry to invest in, or construction process to do.
I'd love to drop my isk into constructing high end suits, or buy officer gear, but you give us nothing to work with.
Translated: Proto and pubbie stomps in pub contracts, then complains about not getting much money....erm duh? |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
495
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:05:00 -
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running cheap is one way to fight the isk war. bring out that proto suit, I get paid that way :) |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2013.09.27 05:50:00 -
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I have a lot of isk and nothing to spend it on. Other then wasting expensive suits, that are not really all that better anyway. I don't really like any of the vehicles or the way they die so much. Dropships are death traps and don't last long on the field, isk drains.
So, I sit on my sit, and sit and sit? |
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
sNk Syndicate
37
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Posted - 2013.09.27 06:06:00 -
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i fourtunately dont have too worry about having too much money ...like some ppl ... but i am fed up with ***** payouts from beasting ...im a heavy and there isnt much i can do other than kill i cant wast sp into another dropsuit i need it fo my build i can go 10/5 easy and used to be i would get like 250 k from that but now im getting lik 120 k from a 12/4 match
*note. amounts are estimates and are subject to my opinion
but basicly i just want to be able to make decent isk again |
sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
132
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Posted - 2013.09.27 06:19:00 -
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I make enough isk, but the loot is fecked up, on this toon that has next to no sp spent in weapons has about 20+ of each officer weapon, yet my main that is skilled into just about every weapon has far less and still no thales! what so ever
whats up with that!!11 |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:36:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:calisk galern wrote:going 20+/0 kdr and getting less then 200k isk.
getting squat for loot from matches.
going 3 months without seeing an officer weapon of choice.
the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with.
we make isk for the sole reason of making isk...that's it....their is nothing to even spend it on anymore, no market to even buy said officer gear on. No industry to invest in, or construction process to do.
I'd love to drop my isk into constructing high end suits, or buy officer gear, but you give us nothing to work with. Translated: Proto and pubbie stomps in pub contracts, then complains about not getting much money....erm duh?
I can run proto suits, or standard suits( which i've been doing in my logi fits since I don't have proto yet ), doesn't matter the pay outs are still crap.
more then that though I'm complaining about the rewards after a battle being sub par, and their being both nothing interesting about them, and nothing to spend our isk on =/ |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:37:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote:I make enough isk, but the loot is fecked up, on this toon that has next to no sp spent in weapons has about 20+ of each officer weapon, yet my main that is skilled into just about every weapon has far less and still no thales! what so ever whats up with that!!11
ya I know a heavy in my corp that has over 100 thales but near to no gastun mins, while I have close to 80 gastum mins and near to no thales.
if only their was market, or the means to trade -.- |
Oscar Neymar
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
52
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:43:00 -
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Going 20/0 on each game , you do have it tough , why the hell would you want or need an officer weapon if your already unbeatable ??
Now this really is whining for the sake of it !! |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
432
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:56:00 -
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Oscar Neymar wrote:Going 20/0 on each game , you do have it tough , why the hell would you want or need an officer weapon if your already unbeatable ?? Now this really is whining for the sake of it !!
Looks like the point went straight past your head without your even noticing.
He's not complaining about the lack of officer drops, not really.
He's complaining about the absence of a good reason to play.
A friend of mine suggested that playing Diablo III is essentially grinding gear to grind more gear faster.
DUST is like that at the moment. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
358
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:01:00 -
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Yep, I much prefer the old salvage system. All they had to do is reduce vehicle salvage rather than change everything. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1016
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:22:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Yep, I much prefer the old salvage system. All they had to do is reduce vehicle salvage rather than change everything.
I forgot you could salvage vehicles, I remember getting happy about pulling a 1 mil tank, glad they squashed that. |
Ynned Ivanova
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
104
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:27:00 -
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You know know what I'm tired of, Look at me postees seeking validation. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
630
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:33:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Yeah i agree OP it's pissing me off how good i am at this game.
Other problems i have: 400mil + ISK in my wallet and nothing to spend it on. My 21 million SP has not been enough to get me into a second protosuit Amarr logi.
Fix these problems CCP, It's fuking difficult to be me, these poor noobs have no idea the daily struggles i face. i know right ;) i'm at 23.5 and won't hit my second proto suit till 24.7
how are you on your second? I am at 22+ Million SP and I am working on my third proto suit and forth proto weapon and I have all my base stats at 5 except hacking. Not trying to brag just getting on mine is bigger thread. To the new guys when you hit 5 Million is when you start to feel like you you are getting somewhere when you finally hit 20 million you feel like there is not enough SP and its taking way to long to get that one freakin level I have been working on for the last 2-3 weeks |
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Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
101
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:34:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:going 20+/0 kdr and getting less then 200k isk.
getting squat for loot from matches.
going 3 months without seeing an officer weapon of choice.
the rewards for playing the game are boring, tedious and uninspiring, chromosome had it right imo, we would get decent payouts, decent rewards, and I even bothered to look at the loot because sometimes I'd get officer weapons in a quantity I could have some fun with.
we make isk for the sole reason of making isk...that's it....their is nothing to even spend it on anymore, no market to even buy said officer gear on. No industry to invest in, or construction process to do.
I'd love to drop my isk into constructing high end suits, or buy officer gear, but you give us nothing to work with.
Yeah, becoming very boring. I personally don't have a ton of isk, Tanker, but the grind is killing me. Can barely get through one single game before boredom sets in.
What is my motivation to keep going?
I have played since this game came out of beta, and have seen 0 officer weapons. I just expect to never get loot.
Burning me out man. No market, nothing to do but shoot people in the face. It gets really old doing the same thing over and over. And so far, aside from SP events, the rewards CCP gives out are crap.
*sigh* |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1017
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:40:00 -
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calvin b wrote:calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Yeah i agree OP it's pissing me off how good i am at this game.
Other problems i have: 400mil + ISK in my wallet and nothing to spend it on. My 21 million SP has not been enough to get me into a second protosuit Amarr logi.
Fix these problems CCP, It's fuking difficult to be me, these poor noobs have no idea the daily struggles i face. i know right ;) i'm at 23.5 and won't hit my second proto suit till 24.7 how are you on your second? I am at 22+ Million SP and I am working on my third proto suit and forth proto weapon and I have all my base stats at 5 except hacking. Not trying to brag just getting on mine is bigger thread. To the new guys when you hit 5 Million is when you start to feel like you you are getting somewhere when you finally hit 20 million you feel like there is not enough SP and its taking way to long to get that one freakin level I have been working on for the last 2-3 weeks
Not sure maybe you invested less into weapons then I did, i have 1 prof 5 weapons and 2 prof 3 weapons and a prof 2 weapons.
Aside from that I honestly wasn't expecting to start my second proto suit till 26 mil, but I decided to get it early because of sheer boredom, so my sensor skills are a bit low and hacking is only 4. also since I was a caldari assault I didn't need to invest points into equipment really, I have level 1-2 across the board for equipment.
Aside from that though I have almost all of the core skills to 5, even things like flay lock optimization is 3, explosives are 5 etc, so I can squeeze extra mods onto my assault suit. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard
327
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:45:00 -
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hey Galern o7! great games the other day ;) |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
266
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:11:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Yeah i agree OP it's pissing me off how good i am at this game.
Other problems i have: 400mil + ISK in my wallet and nothing to spend it on. My 21 million SP has not been enough to get me into a second protosuit Amarr logi.
Fix these problems CCP, It's fuking difficult to be me, these poor noobs have no idea the daily struggles i face. i know right ;) i'm at 23.5 and won't hit my second proto suit till 24.7
I'm at 17 mil so and I have two proto suits and almost a third with loads of decent mods, equipment and 2 proto weapon choices with most also being at advanced.
So how so for you? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:14:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:calisk galern wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Yeah i agree OP it's pissing me off how good i am at this game.
Other problems i have: 400mil + ISK in my wallet and nothing to spend it on. My 21 million SP has not been enough to get me into a second protosuit Amarr logi.
Fix these problems CCP, It's fuking difficult to be me, these poor noobs have no idea the daily struggles i face. i know right ;) i'm at 23.5 and won't hit my second proto suit till 24.7 I'm at 17 mil so and I have two proto suits and almost a third with loads of decent mods, equipment and 2 proto weapon choices with most also being at advanced. So how so for you?
mostly because decent isn't enough for me.
on my sniper fit I have pretty much all proto mods, when I get around to it I will be able to squeeze my enhanced plate up to a complex plate but it will take close to 2 million sp.
once my logi fit hits proto i'll need to proto out scanners, hives, uplinks, and armor reppers.
i'd honestly be worried about losing the suits but I have near 50000 charged rifles so meh... |
Oscar Neymar
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
55
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:19:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Oscar Neymar wrote:Going 20/0 on each game , you do have it tough , why the hell would you want or need an officer weapon if your already unbeatable ?? Now this really is whining for the sake of it !! Looks like the point went straight past your head without your even noticing. He's not complaining about the lack of officer drops, not really. He's complaining about the absence of a good reason to play. A friend of mine suggested that playing Diablo III is essentially grinding gear to grind more gear faster. DUST is like that at the moment.
People should earn things ,
Or just give a Titan 8 turrets that fire dommsdays at the rate of auto canons with no penalty , just so people can take regions faster Same point ??
Edit ; spelt of wrong |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1017
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:20:00 -
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Oscar Neymar wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Oscar Neymar wrote:Going 20/0 on each game , you do have it tough , why the hell would you want or need an officer weapon if your already unbeatable ?? Now this really is whining for the sake of it !! Looks like the point went straight past your head without your even noticing. He's not complaining about the lack of officer drops, not really. He's complaining about the absence of a good reason to play. A friend of mine suggested that playing Diablo III is essentially grinding gear to grind more gear faster. DUST is like that at the moment. People should earn things , Or just give a Titan 8 turrets that fire dommsdays at the rate or auto canons with no penalty , just so people can take regions faster Same point ??
I did mention investing into industry, I'd love to work towards something, or build something, hell even getting the components in salvage to build bigger suits, and equipment would be fine by me.
we don't have any of that though, right now all we can do is store isk, and look at the number get bigger. It's like winning the lottery and being told you aren't allowed to spend the money on anything. can you say you really won anything? what's the point of having isk with no outlet to use it.
officer weapons are the closest thing we have to a pay out and I don't remember the last time I saw a thale drop, if the devs told me they were taken out of circulation tomorrow I wouldn't be surprised. with the drops that rare all that is left is isk as motivation to play, but as mentioned isk is now more pointless then anything else, and on top of that the pay outs are pretty weak atm. |
Oscar Neymar
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
56
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:34:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Oscar Neymar wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Oscar Neymar wrote:Going 20/0 on each game , you do have it tough , why the hell would you want or need an officer weapon if your already unbeatable ?? Now this really is whining for the sake of it !! Looks like the point went straight past your head without your even noticing. He's not complaining about the lack of officer drops, not really. He's complaining about the absence of a good reason to play. A friend of mine suggested that playing Diablo III is essentially grinding gear to grind more gear faster. DUST is like that at the moment. People should earn things , Or just give a Titan 8 turrets that fire dommsdays at the rate or auto canons with no penalty , just so people can take regions faster Same point ?? I did mention investing into industry, I'd love to work towards something, or build something, hell even getting the components in salvage to build bigger suits, and equipment would be fine by me. we don't have any of that though, right now all we can do is store isk, and look at the number get bigger. It's like winning the lottery and being told you aren't allowed to spend the money on anything. can you say you really won anything? what's the point of having isk with no outlet to use it.
I agree 100% , we need something to channel our money into if we so wish and we need the market up and active so we can sell on the officer weapons we don't use or want , and everything else we have outgrown etc , and be able to buy what we do need / want .
Maybe even be able to harvest the minerals from the planets like Eve harnesses the moon goo from R64's ( best moons ) for such vast profits and even be able to do reactions to build components towards T3 / T4 or whatever is next in Eve or Dust , if we had the same limitless possabilities as Eve Online , this game really would be a huge roaring success imo !!!
A fully active and self sufficient market is what made Eve , and without it , Dust will die . |
Cpl Foster USMC
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
223
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:41:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:sixteensixty4 wrote:I make enough isk, but the loot is fecked up, on this toon that has next to no sp spent in weapons has about 20+ of each officer weapon, yet my main that is skilled into just about every weapon has far less and still no thales! what so ever whats up with that!!11 ya I know a heavy in my corp that has over 100 thales but near to no gastun mins, while I have close to 80 gastum mins and near to no thales. if only their was a market, or the means to trade -.-
see that right there makes me think these "random drops" aren't so random....
been a sniper since I started in May and have had only 3 Thale's....and I got like 30 Gastun's HMG......and i'm saving SP for a Minmatar Heavy that I ain't gonna get before I quit this game.... |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1017
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:46:00 -
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Cpl Foster USMC wrote:calisk galern wrote:sixteensixty4 wrote:I make enough isk, but the loot is fecked up, on this toon that has next to no sp spent in weapons has about 20+ of each officer weapon, yet my main that is skilled into just about every weapon has far less and still no thales! what so ever whats up with that!!11 ya I know a heavy in my corp that has over 100 thales but near to no gastun mins, while I have close to 80 gastum mins and near to no thales. if only their was a market, or the means to trade -.- see that right there makes me think these "random drops" aren't so random.... been a sniper since I started in May and have had only 3 Thale's....and I got like 30 Gastun's HMG......and i'm saving SP for a Minmatar Heavy that I ain't gonna get before I quit this game....
I've suspected the drops are weighted away from what you use for a long time, but I have no way to test it. even if I switch fits you only see an officer drop like once every 100 games, which takes me over a week to get in, and to get a decent sample I'd need probably over 100 drops so around 10000 games. |
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