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richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:21:00 -
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militia/std =25-50wp Adv =50-100 proto 100-150
Benifits Good players will rather play pc more;there will be more wp New players will be delighted when the recieve 3x the wp for the kill.
Disadvantages
Possibly more incentive to abuse though this is already possible
Now lets hear your opinions on why not |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3521
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:25:00 -
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I kind of like the idea actually. But the WP limit for orbitals needs to be changed. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
919
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:28:00 -
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That's way too high. Your making ADV suits worth more than medium vehicles (already worth more than light vehicles for some reason), and PROTO almost/higher than heavy vehicles. Change the awards. Although, I do like the idea of getting higher wp's for killing harder to kill stuff. |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
319
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:38:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:That's way too high. Your making ADV suits worth more than medium vehicles (already worth more than light vehicles for some reason), and PROTO almost/higher than heavy vehicles. Change the awards. Although, I do like the idea of getting higher wp's for killing harder to kill stuff. Good .vehicles are borked anyway atm! |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
608
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:40:00 -
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Like the idea, but the numbers need tweaking. I'd make them something like this.
Advanced - 30 WP assists and 60 WP kills.
Proto - 40 WP assists and 75(or 80) WP kills.
Although a review of vehicle destruction WP and orbital WP limits might be required (although I like the idea of getting more OBs faster by killing proto suits). |
Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Public Disorder.
59
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:41:00 -
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yea the idea is good, but th wp is high like everybody else said |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
319
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:41:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Like the idea, but the numbers need tweaking. I'd make them something like this.
Advanced - 30 WP assists and 60 WP kills.
Proto - 40 WP assists and 75(or 80) WP kills.
Although a review of vehicle destruction WP and orbital WP limits might be required (although I like the idea of getting more OBs faster by killing proto). ooh I dint think about assists. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
608
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:44:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Like the idea, but the numbers need tweaking. I'd make them something like this.
Advanced - 30 WP assists and 60 WP kills.
Proto - 40 WP assists and 75(or 80) WP kills.
Although a review of vehicle destruction WP and orbital WP limits might be required (although I like the idea of getting more OBs faster by killing proto). ooh I dint think about assists. Oops, I honestly thought that the first numbers in your OP were for assists |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
207
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:44:00 -
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O My god orbitals everywhere |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1832
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:45:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I kind of like the idea actually. But the WP limit for orbitals needs to be changed.
Honestly they should just do away with orbitals |
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richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
319
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:46:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Like the idea, but the numbers need tweaking. I'd make them something like this.
Advanced - 30 WP assists and 60 WP kills.
Proto - 40 WP assists and 75(or 80) WP kills.
Although a review of vehicle destruction WP and orbital WP limits might be required (although I like the idea of getting more OBs faster by killing proto). ooh I dint think about assists. Oops, I honestly thought that the first numbers in your OP were for assists hehe those were the upper and lower values. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1724
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I kind of like the idea actually. But the WP limit for orbitals needs to be changed. yea its way to high if then think players only make 100 wp per game. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3524
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Posted - 2013.09.26 21:46:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I kind of like the idea actually. But the WP limit for orbitals needs to be changed. Honestly they should just do away with orbitals
In pubmatches for WP, yes. In PC and FW if you have an EVE ship, no. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4439
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:35:00 -
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I prefer this setup instead.
Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113843&find=unread
Quote: Warpoints based on suit disparity means that you get the current +50 when you are fighting a suit of the same tier as yours. If you kill a suit one tier higher, you get +15 warpoints per tier in addition to the +50, so a militia suit killing a proto would get + 95 warpoints*. If you kill a suit a tier lower, you get -15 warpoints per tier, so a proto suit killing a militia suit would get 5 warpoints**.
I feel that this would contribute greatly to balancing public matches while still rewarding both old and new players. I do not recommend this for faction warfare or planetary conquest.
*[+50 base +15 standard +15 adv +15 proto = +95 warpoints] **[+50 base +(-15)ADV +(-15)Standard +(-15)militia = +5 warpoints EDIT: All numbers are placeholders, see following discussion for more balanced numbers (I personally feel that 7.5 points is fairly balanced)
But I have to agree that the points added/subtracted according to the OP of the thread I referenced is too extreme. I would say about +/- 7 WP change according to the disparity. This way there will only be a maximum gain/loss of 21 WP as supposed to a gain/loss of 45 WP. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1578
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:42:00 -
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Proper incentives (for segregation and so on) are everything. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1021
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:43:00 -
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How do you intend to play the game with all the points everyone gets for everything. What next WP for walking? We get points for almost every action with more to come. It is getting to be too much. At the rate we're going we won't be able to aim because there will be WP popping left and right. If anything we need less war points to make the matches actually mean more than getting crap points for doing nothing. It is like playing baseball with 3 year olds, no winners or losers just ice cream for everyone. This thread is a joke. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4439
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:50:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:How do you intend to play the game with all the points everyone gets for everything. What next WP for walking? We get points for almost every action with more to come. It is getting to be too much. At the rate we're going we won't be able to aim because there will be WP popping left and right. If anything we need less war points to make the matches actually mean more than getting crap points for doing nothing. It is like playing baseball with 3 year olds, no winners or losers just ice cream for everyone. This thread is a joke.
The principle problem with war points at the moment is that there are no points given for actions that at least require some effort. How much effort do you put in towards stopping a virus from completely uploading on an objective? How much effort do you put in trying to clear out a bunch of enemy uplinks within a city? How much effort do you put into carrying pilots across the map? Now how much of that effort ever brought you rewards? None, right? That was the problem. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1021
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:59:00 -
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It is just too much. WP should be given for doing a good job not doing your job. After the third uplink is destroyed then start giving points or fifth hive, after two full sets of reps, two kills, three assists and 4 spawns. This game was more fun when we it was more hardcore. Now all I have to do is spawn in with a free suit. https://twitter.com/BurlenDaire/status/384766378533588993/photo/1 |
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